Racism in America is over

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tabatha_;2955606 said:
Of course it exists.

The fact that 15% of African Americans have been/are in jail yet make up 50% speaks volumes.

A white man and a black man can do the same crime and completely different time and you know who's going to do longer.

Talk to Oscar Grant's family and I'm sure they'll tell you racism still exists.

Is racism down to everything? Of course not. But you can only fight something if you can recognise it.

events like the oscar grant situation are not the reason blacks drop out of schools so often, become teenage moms, become criminals, dont build stable families etc.
 
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Kushington;2955648 said:
Its funny how in an earlier post you mentioned the despair thats prevalent in third world nations, yet you havent mentioned how those "lucky few" managed to make it out

Let me tell you how, they werent desperate in the first place.

nigga you dumb as shit

I'm Liberian. Go do some research, then speak to me.
 
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-Vincenzo-;2955651 said:
events like the oscar grant situation are not the reason blacks drop out of schools so often, become teenage moms, become criminals, dont build stable families etc.

Ok so most of the problems in black America are caused by black Americans? That doesnt make racism a nonfactor..
 
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tru_m.a.c;2955674 said:
nigga you dumb as shit

I'm Liberian. Go do some research, then speak to me.

So youre from the country whites gave to black slaves?

FOH nigga u aint ordinary bruh
 
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You niggas disgust me with the excuses
 
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MissLeading;2955682 said:
Ok so most of the problems in black America are caused by black Americans? That doesnt make racism a nonfactor..

no but the problems mentioned above are self caused while that oscar grant situation wasnt. there is some racism but how can racism be the reason for all of this when other groups of blacks dont have the same problems? enlighten me.

Tommy bilfiger;2955691 said:
Unfortunately at one point in life I surrounded myself wit habitual criminals

Getting locked up has nothin to do wit racism ,these niggas bring that shit on themselves

A white man is not forcing a nigga to shoot,rob or aggravate assault nobody over a jab of crack

Yes the drugs make it to the hood but niggas,addicts self destruct after that

I cant front I ALMOST got locked a couple times but that shit scared me straight

I aint tryna be in no jail wit Co's bossin me around surrounded by dumb fuck niggas and no woman or kush and havin felonies on my record

FUCK That

i wish a lot more brothers would finally wake up, i was once just another nigga too, i'm not gonna front
 
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tru_m.a.c;2955702 said:
Small Business Loans For Minority Entrepreneurs

But sometimes, says Robinson, minority small-business owners need a little extra help securing loans and investments, since "it's not necessarily a level playing field."

You niggas disgust me with the excuses

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tabatha_;2955740 said:
No, but let's not act like institutionalised racism doesn't play a part.

Finances play a huge role in why the issues you listed go the way they do and it's common knowledge that AAs have suffered the most regarding jobs during this recession, that AA women are paid the least etc. Like I said racism in NOT always the reason, but it is a reason.

As for teen mothers, I'll find the stats after but hispanics have the highest teenage mothers and as for crime? Well AAs don't commit anymore crime then any other race, they just get INCARCERATED more than anyone else. Also, the type of crime plays a part, as in white collar crime and things of that nature.

Just look at some of these figures. Obviously something is wrong.

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/64

i think niggas sayin they sellin drugs since they lack perspectives or need to feed their daughter are delusional, there are 100.000 blacks in the same financial situation that dont do that and hell some of them even make it out the hood legit. its just niggas tryin the easy way out. just like hoes gettin preggers and thinkin now nigga and her are a little family, fast money/fast love dont last.

lets be realistic blacks might get arrested more often for doin crimes but at the end of the day as long as you commited a crime its your fault. and this white collar crime has nothing to do with race its the same all around the globe even in countries with nearly no blacks white collar criminals get different treatment.
 
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tru_m.a.c;2955627 said:
so native born americans don't receive benefits of equal measure???

No because we don't offer those "special abilities or international connections"...Whatever the hell that means. I'm not saying a black man from America can't get a small business loan, but at the same time it's not as easy as someone from another country. Plain and simple. All the articles in the world can't dispute physical evidence when you walk down the street and every single small private corner store or restaurant is owned by someone not from this country.

I totally get your position, especially you being from another country. But what you're not seeing is the difference between a small business loan meeting between an immigrant versus a black natural born American citizen because you are from another country.
 
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tabatha_;2955869 said:
I'm not talking about the reason behind the reason why African Americans are doing crimes, I'm just talking about incarceration levels.

If its about 'doing the time if you do the crime' then there shouldn't be more AAs in prison as the actual levels of crimes committed as more even across the board.

So, the point I am making is that racism still exists and the prison system showcases that perfectly. Which is the point of the thread right?

Oh, and yes I guess you are right about white collared crime. Bankers stay winning :(

it would showcase racism perfectly if you could show that africans and african americans are affected by it at the same rate, which i doubt.
 
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Kushintong and Allreasonedout are two feathers of the same bird, both faux 'pro black' coons.
 
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tabatha_;2955937 said:
What??

Did you even check the link I provided? It clearly shows AAs are incarcerated at a higher level then other races in America even if said people are all doing the same crime, AAs are more likely to be prosecuted.

That's not rocket science and my point is pretty easy to understand so if you are not getting it then...wow.

AAs incarcerated at higher level then any other race even when crime is the same = evidence racism exists. Get it?

That is the point of the thread right? Right?

the link doesnt talk about africans vs african americans, thats the thing. up to now we thought the reason blacks are more often incarcerated, fail in school etc because of racism and the point of the thread is to show that this explanation seems to lack evidence since africans feel racism too but they are not affected by these things at the same rate as african americans, so how can dark skin color be the reason, get it?
 
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-Vincenzo-;2956040 said:
the link doesnt talk about africans vs african americans, thats the thing. up to now we thought the reason blacks are more often incarcerated, fail in school etc because of racism and the point of the thread is to show that this explanation seems to lack evidence since africans feel racism too but they are not affected by these things at the same rate as african americans, so how can dark skin color be the reason, get it?

It's not just racism but socioeconomic inequality in general. Lower class people in general have higher rates of incarceration, poorer academic performance etc.
 
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Huruma;2956057 said:
It's not just racism but socioeconomic inequality in general. Lower class people in general have higher rates of incarceration, poorer academic performance etc.

and why are african americans in that class a lot more often? you can say slavery, segregation etc but the truth is blacks made a step backwards in a lot of things in the last decades (politics not being one of them obviously)
 
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-Vincenzo-;2956127 said:
and why are african americans in that class a lot more often? you can say slavery, segregation etc but the truth is blacks made a step backwards in a lot of things in the last decades (politics not being one of them obviously)

If I'm not mistaken (I could be), most Black Americans are middle class and Black America is better off today than pre-civil rights movement.

Even if Black immigrants tend to be more successful than Black Americans, it could be that they're more successful despite the racism they've encountered. Besides racism, there may be cultural factors inherited from slavery/Jim Crow racism that contribute to the disproportionate number of Black Americans who are lower class. Poverty is inter-generational, most people who are born poor will stay poor.
 
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