Racially Motivated Threads of the Social Lounge...

[ibedamned]

silly white ppl. you can have pride in whatever you are. the truth is white pride has often cost other races of ppl their lives.

 

[Kushington]

Theories come post-observation. An observation is merely the witnessing/noting/recognition of a fact/occurrence. A theory is something that is in some form based on an observation. So I don't think there's any sort of theoretical/practical duality for an actual observation; it just exists as an observation.

And I think the positions of "De facto" and "De jure" should be reversed in your statement.

Dont dwell on a typo and semantics bro.

 

[StreetMediaZone]

just do what i do (peep the sig)

 

[redclay]

W.E.T?!? Anything that ain't B.E.T is W.E.T!!!!


I hate when that say that dumb shyt

But it's the fact they can't actually call a channel W.E.T. because you would think it's racist.

 

[Kushington]

fiat i edited it

Now deal with the topic at hand as i presented it

 

[fiat_money]

An observation, is merely witnessing that your argument has to be sustained by way of you ignoring or disregarding the reality, that...displaying White pride, is only tangible and reasonable in a society where Whites live equal status, as all others.

I'm sure you have no proof of that, for this discussion.

The underlined is an example of you creating your own parameters. There's nothing in the definition of the term "pride" that says "pride is only tangible and reasonable in a society where the proud live equal status, as all others". So there is no need for me to refute it, since it's not true to begin with.

fiat i edited it

Now deal with the topic at hand as i presented it

There was nothing for me to "deal with", since there is no "theoretical/practical duality for an actual observation". The "in practice" sentence does nothing to refute/invalidate the observation.

And the last two sentences you wrote lacked relevance. I haven't argued "whites aren't and haven't been in an advantageous position in the United States, when compared to other races.". That would be untrue and does nothing in supporting/disproving the initial observation(s).

Perhaps people think I've said/implied more than I have, but the observation(s) boils down to, "X explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites exist, and similar explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites don't exist or they've been called 'racist'.".

 

[Kushington]

There was nothing for me to "deal with", since there is no "theoretical/practical duality for an actual observation". The "in practice" sentence does nothing to refute/invalidate the observation.

And the last two sentences you wrote lacked relevance. I haven't argued "whites aren't and haven't been in an advantageous position in the United States, when compared to other races.". That would be untrue and does nothing in supporting/disproving the initial observation(s).

Perhaps people think I've said/implied more than I have, but the observation(s) boils down to, "X explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites exist, and similar explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites don't exist or they've been called 'racist'.".

A theory can be an abstract thought, such as the premise of the thread

But the reason why I called the initial post I quoted a theory was because, those exclusively white institutions existed prior/before any institutions exclusively accommodating nonwhites existed, and in fact, the notion of obliging to nonwhites was unheard of until a few decades ago

Exclusively (de jure, no typo) white institutions/pratices are frowned upon nowadays because we live in a (seemingly) pluralistic society

We can argue the semantics, praticality and theoretical relevance of the initial thread premise, but that would be disregarding the reality of the intent of the premise itself.

 

[Chike]

You do realize you are not forced to live in Amerikkka, right? You can save up and leave any time you want. You choose to live there. Just saying. If you noticed you weren't being treated fairly long ago why not take the next plane/boat outta there and go somewhere else?

This stupid shit again? Where the fuck am I going to go to escape western oppression? Do you not understand what world domination means? That's number one, number two, why the fuck should I or any other black have to leave anyway? Why can't the Europeans leave who are uninvited guests in this land? number three.... This aint about just me... this is about EVERYONE. If it was that simple to for everyone to just up and leave and forget about all the problems that are FORCED upon us as a whole.... we would have done left a huyndred years ago. You gonna fuckin tell malcolm X to leave back in the days? That god gave his life just so he could save a very few handful of his people. What state would we be in if Malcolm or Martin Jr just up and left? I highly doubt we'd even have any rights at all. I swear to god this whole "then get out of America" attitude is the dumbest shit any racist or racist supporter could say in their defense.

Imagine if 500-600 years ago the Europeans would have actually left when the natives told them to get the fuck out if they didn't like their way of life.....

You actually believe this? Blacks who sold other black people didn't have any morals,let alone terms and conditions behind there dastardly deeds. Damn! you're so full of shit & in total denial about the roots of slavery......yeah blame others for what many of your own race did....aren't you partially white?

are you being dead serious or are you trolling? I hope you're trolling. And I'm mixed... so what? I'm talking about white people, not mixed people.

 

[fiat_money]

...But the reason why I called the initial post I quoted a theory was because, those exclusively white institutions existed prior/before any institutions exclusively accommodating nonwhites existed, and in fact, the notion of obliging to nonwhites was unheard of until a few decades ago...

This does nothing to invalidate an observation made in the present about the existence/connotation of certain explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites.

If I observe that "X does not exist" or "X is frowned upon.", someone saying "Well, X used to exist." does nothing to disprove the initial observation. Now if I say "X has never existed.", then the "Well, X used to exist." reply would serve to refute/invalidate my statement, but I haven't said that.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it.

You created these designations. This was in response to darker people beginning to identify with each other globally so you skillfully changed the language to bust up all unity talks. In the 60's and 70's, Black people identified as Black which connected them with Black peoples struggles all over the Earth. You were threatened by that. So you introduce the Afro-African American terminology to make distinctions and stop people from seeing that they were connected. You is a bad mutha........

I have never seen this happen. But just look at it as residuals.

No, I just call that being you.

Because most ghettos are unenlightened havens for poor people. When you mix those two ingredients together you usually have violence and other anti-social behavior. But the most dangerous places to live is where you go to make war(i.e Iraq, Afghanistan, etc..).

UNCF is supported by mainly white corporate donors. Your beef is with your people.

You have Martin Luther King Day.

So do you. It is a federal holiday.

One Month out of 12. Really?

I went to the doctor to get some cream so I could clear that up.

Started, funded, and controlled by white people.

Actually owned by white people.

No, you would own most of the major media that is out there.

4th of July, Columbus Day, Memorial Day all celebrate the heritage of white supremacy.

You have plenty.

There are scholarships for whites only. Besides, most Black colleges have white students in them. They are just Historically Black. They were started by white people and willing negroes who didn't want blacks in school with them. I wish you people would make up your mind. Personally I wouldn't care if there was an all white university.

Wrong. The Million Man March was about atonement, reconciliation, and responsibility. It was not a civil rights march. It was a rally for personal responsibility.

I ain't never seen an orange nigga. But if I was I wouldn't be afraid to announce it. Do you know how much money an orange nigga can make? I'm talking Sunkist endorsements, circuses, official mascot of the Orange Bowl. Limitless amount of white girls, afflicted with white guilt, wanting to sleep with him to take the escapist way out from their dad's racism.

Actually you all are pretty safe 99 times out of 100, blacks do that to each other. The problem with the white police officers is the assign guilt to people before they are allowed a trial and become judge, jury, and executioner. Historically speaking you have robbed, shot and killed many more of us than us of you.

I call you pathetic and probably an unsuccessful, frustrated white man, who is angry he can't make progress and is looking for a scapegoat for his wretched existence, or Ether-I-am fucking with us.

Fuck Close Thread and well said...

 

[Knives Amilli]

When white people complain about shit like this imo its equivalent to a person whose family has owned a limitless waterwell for decades complaining that he didn't get a two day old 20 0z. bottle of water with his name on it.

 

[Kushington]

This does nothing to invalidate an observation made in the present about the existence/connotation of certain explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites.

If I observe that "X does not exist" or "X is frowned upon.", someone saying "Well, X used to exist." does nothing to disprove the initial observation. Now if I say "X has never existed.", then the "Well, X used to exist." reply would serve to refute/invalidate my statement, but I haven't said that.

But given the fact that "X" has contributed to the degredation and oppression of one group, while simuletaneously contributing to the benefit of said group in question,in addition to being the reason why "X" feels the need to regain their original status, I would think its worth noting.

 

[fiat_money]

But given the fact that "X" has contributed to the degredation and oppression of one group, while simuletaneously contributing to the benefit of said group in question,in addition to being the reason why "X" feels the need to regain their original status, I would think its worth noting.

Even if worth noting, it does nothing to invalidate my initial observation(s). So, my initial observation(s) still stand.

No, you created your own parameters, when you decided to join Young-Ice to esteem a concept borne of racist's tunnel-vision. Pride is the wrong word, for this discussion...that's where the problem starts...

I haven't "joined" Young-Ice, I haven't even read anything he's written in this thread.

I see nothing in the definition of the word "pride" that references racial/cultural dominance, unfair or otherwise:

pride

1 : the quality or state of being proud: as a : inordinate self-esteem : conceit b : a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c : delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship

2 : proud or disdainful behavior or treatment : disdain

3 a : ostentatious display b : highest pitch : prime

4 : a source of pride : the best in a group or class

5 : a company of lions

6 : a showy or impressive group

So the rest of your post seems to be another example of you creating your own parameters.

 

[fiat_money]

Perhaps you are correct, and therefore, did something far far worse by latching on to his egregiously-racist concept he brought back here.

Latching on to "his concept" would prove rather difficult here:

...I haven't even read anything he's written in this thread.

That doesn't mater. You're not using the word 'pride' here, for creating a dictionary, but for display in a democratic society...

Generally, when I use a word, I'm using it as defined within accepted dictionaries. And your "democratic display" argument lacks relevance, as it refutes nothing I've said, and "I see nothing in the definition of the word 'pride' that references" democratic society.

 

[fiat_money]

FACT: I said he brought a concept here, not that he created a concept...

I never claimed you said the underlined.

Nonetheless that's independent of the reality where displaying White pride, in a democratic society, is irresponsibly-irrational.

Your opinion on the proposed irrationality of displays of pride does nothing to refute my observation.

Actually Its totally relevant since it pertains to the democratic society, in the OP here, where the t/s is seeking to display said-White pride.

There are imperatives being compared for pride, in the OP, which are used to make a reach for a fair and equal society for non-Whites..i.e...NAACP, B.E.T., UNCF, Black History Month, HBCU's, etc....so it's only proper to continue gauging pride-potentials, along those democratic lines.

Again I remind you, this thread isn't about creating a dictionary for the word pride...but it is regarding displaying pride in the democratic society, being explained in the OP here.

Your "democratic display" argument still refutes nothing I've said. Even if there were some rule that "democratic societies prohibit the display of white pride" that wouldn't disprove my statements.

In fact, saying white pride is denounced in the United States, or that it isn't allowed would only reinforce/substantiate my statements:

...What's being referred to is the lack of or negative connotation of certain explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites--due to being categorized as "racist"--despite such institutions/practices existing for non-whites...

 

[kingblaze84]

lol @ the horrible misconception that white people are just "Americans"

The other 11 months out of the year are white history months.

Fox News + The Country Music Channel (CMT) = Caucasian version of BET

White people can and have enrolled into HBCU's.

White people call black people racist all the time they just refer to it as "reverse racism".

White people have had the chances to do things like the million man march. You just chose to do things like Klan rallies.

Point blank if white people hadn't ruin their chances to do things without malice, violence or oppression maybe when you did try to do things for your race we wouldn't see them as being malicious or view you as seperatists or racists.

There wouldn't be so much doubt or issues with your being proud to be white if you haven't given us a reason to.

Lets be honest here. White people have screwed over every single dominant race/nationality that has stepped foot into America. You've screwed the Asian Americans you've screwed Native Americans you went OVER seas to screw Arabic speaking people you've screwed Africans and then brought them here kept screwing them and generations after generations waited to screw African Americans too.

You keep fuckin people over in the greed and pride of being "White" or "American" so why would you be mad or not understand when people don't see it as being harmless? It's not.

**Standing ovation**

Amen brotha......amen.

 

[kingblaze84]

I cant believe yall actually debating this

For hundreds of years whites had "whites only" stuff in most facets of society

Anything ethnically exclusive was created to counteract the damage done by the many years of all white ness

Only a dumb idiot or an extremely naive, insular person can disagree with this statement. White folks shouldn't say shit about BET or Black History Month or Black owned organizations considering all the racism and hate they have shown in the past and present. Black people and minorities were excluded from white owned places and organizations for hundreds of years, I can just laugh at a silly White person mad Blacks have finally stood up for themselves.

**plans to watch BET more in the future**

 

[Jonas.dini]

In general terms I disapprove of tribalism by whites or any other racial group

 

[kingblaze84]

And by the way, Fiat Money, you've been shut down at least 20 times in this thread already. Give it up man it's over.

 

[fiat_money]

And by the way, Fiat Money, you've been shut down at least 20 times in this thread already. Give it up man it's over.

Sounds interesting. Proof/link?