Racially Motivated Threads of the Social Lounge...

[kingblaze84]

I think this is hogwash. The white racist doesn't think all Blacks are racist and even if he did the IC would have no bearing on his stance. Your analysis of is myopic and misinformed. The average black who you would deem racist is not interested in "racism" towards whites. They just want to sever a relationship that is based on privilige, inequity, and injustice.

Your stance is akin to the white liberal who sticks his head in the sand and tries to act like white racism is not virulent, active, alive and a guiding principle of global white hegemony. Or the Black liberal who says stupid shit like " White people if you don't take better care of us, then those negroes will tear up your house."

Just because someone displays nationalistic thoughts doesn't mean that they hate or are racist towards others. And your Knowledgable black comment is akin to "Responsible Negro or Good darkie thought process. Black people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions pal without you setting the parameters of what they should, think, feel, or plan.

I agree 100%. Plutarch is either very naive on the history of white oppression worldwide or supports it. It's one or the other.

 

[kingblaze84]

That white guy complaining needs his head shot off. What a fucking idiot, almost every channel on TV is White Entertainment TV. Don't get me started on movies! I haven't seen an all Black movie in years. But I know there are tons of all white movies with all white characters in them. I didn't see many Black folk in The Lord of The Rings or Harry Potter, did ya'll?

 

[kingblaze84]

lol @ the personal attacks.

figured this would get a good reaction.

This double standard is interesting to me. It's like black people can have pride, but whites can not?

I understand white people really have fucked up with the white pride thing (nazis, KKK) but not every proud white person is a nazi or Klan member.

Also, you guys claim there are many openly white only groups and sectors of gov out there, but have failed to name any.

If a White person wants to be proud of being white, I say GO AHEAD.

No Black person is forcing someone to NOT be proud of being White. White folk celebrate White supremacy all the time. Take a look at Christopher Columbus Day and Confederate History Month in many southern states. And yes, there are plenty of all white groups out there, ask the Hells Angels or Mafia how many Black members they allow.

 

[Chike]

Weren't many of the African slaves American's purchased sold to them by other Africans?
The Greeks and Egyptians had slaves, all though their form of slavery wasn't as bad as America's.

How did they gain world dominance solely because of their skin color. You're saying because they're white they developed monetary systems and arms far beyond that of their darker skinned peers?

Greed is not dependent upon skin color

No, I'm saying because they seem to think their skin color means something, they knew they were a tiny teaspoon compared to a world where the majority of the people are dark, so instead of accepting themselves as a part of the human family and not worrying about the tone of their skin, they decided they wanted to try and preserve their's by forcing nonwhites into an un-natural position. This way they could not only attempt to 'save' their light skin, but they can feed what seems to be an uncontrollable lust for power and wealth by any means.

A very few africans participated in the slave trade, and they did not know these slaves would be placed in the same racist box as themselves, because noone on the planet has ever recordedly done the monstrocities that these europeans have committed.... The africans did not sell black slaves for europeans to exploit all blacks... they sold prisoners of war no matter what color their skin would have been. For you to blame africans for what happened would be like blaming walmart for unknowingly selling an axe to an axe murderer....

PS: The ONLY reason we got black month andblack channels and black this or that.... is BECAUSE white people OWN everything and will NOT let our people go from their grip. They wouldn't give us our deserved reparations so that we could establish our own separate nation independant from white control... If they had.... there would be nothing we could do or say to stop them from saying nlgger, making white only tv stations, and having as many white history months as they want. THEY themselves have created this whole mess and they have only themselves to blame. As long as they WANT to KEEP us under their control... they are going to have to give their slaves some sort of bone to completely erradicate a full blown rebellion.

This is why I don't support black history month, black named tv stations or Obama in the office..... because they are nothing more than pacifiers to keep us comfortable in their grip... and out of our minds.

 

[im_lux]

lol @ the horrible misconception that white people are just "Americans"

The other 11 months out of the year are white history months.

Fox News + The Country Music Channel (CMT) = Caucasian version of BET

White people can and have enrolled into HBCU's.

White people call black people racist all the time they just refer to it as "reverse racism".

White people have had the chances to do things like the million man march. You just chose to do things like Klan rallies.

Point blank if white people hadn't ruin their chances to do things without malice, violence or oppression maybe when you did try to do things for your race we wouldn't see them as being malicious or view you as seperatists or racists.

There wouldn't be so much doubt or issues with your being proud to be white if you haven't given us a reason to.

Lets be honest here. White people have screwed over every single dominant race/nationality that has stepped foot into America. You've screwed the Asian Americans you've screwed Native Americans you went OVER seas to screw Arabic speaking people you've screwed Africans and then brought them here kept screwing them and generations after generations waited to screw African Americans too.

You keep fuckin people over in the greed and pride of being "White" or "American" so why would you be mad or not understand when people don't see it as being harmless? It's not.

 

[nujerz84]

This shit originated at a stormfront.org many years ago... smh at anyone giving that bullshit the time of day.

 

[nujerz84]

This kid needs to get a grip. Look, it's easy. Just big up your nationality. Irish pride, Italian pride, what have you. No one will fault you for that.

I agree with this...

 

[im_lux]

Also a lot of the things you're complaining about were implemented when white people wouldn't allow those same luxuries to black people. Hence the need for HBCU's and other black organizations.

 

[fiat_money]

Overall, those are pretty reasonable statements; which predictably infuriate people, for some reason.

Perhaps the crime-related points aren't so sound, but the rest is fairly valid.

 

[nujerz84]

Overall, those are pretty reasonable statements; which predictably infuriate people, for some reason.

Perhaps the crime-related points aren't so sound, but the rest is fairly valid.

There is no valid point if you understood the history of why things were founded or created in the first place that any logical non racist mind so be able to see and point out. People have already have in this thread.

 

[fiat_money]

There is no valid point if you understood the history of why things were founded or created in the first place that any logical non racist mind so be able to see and point out. People have already have in this thread.

I see nowhere in the opening post where it says "Explicitly minority-exclusive institutions/practices weren't created for any reasons.", so it doesn't appear to be an argument against the creation of such institutions/practices.

What's being referred to is the lack of or negative connotation of certain explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites--due to being categorized as "racist"--despite such institutions/practices existing for non-whites.

The statements are valid because the explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites that were listed, do in fact exist; and attempts to create similar institutions/practices for whites are often called "racist". I've seen the "white nationalist" movement called racist on many occasions.

It's not an argument against existing explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites, but an argument for the creation of similar explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites.

 

[fiat_money]

...What's valid about, that black history month bullshyt? Or that B.E.T. Nonsense? MLKJr. Holiday? United Negro College fund? 60 Black colleges vs. 6,000 White-oriented colleges in thus Nation? NAACP vs. White-owned Congress SCOTUS & US Presidential seat?

The key difference is that the bolded are examples of explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for which the similar institutions/practices for whites would be considered "racist"; while the underlined examples are not explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices.

I see nowhere in the opening post where it says "Explicitly minority-exclusive institutions/practices weren't created for any reasons."...It's not an argument against existing explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites...

 

[fiat_money]

there's no such argument, to be made, because it already exists and drives the creation of everything every element, in the OP here...


In other words, let's bet you can't show one element of that OP which that specific org or circumstance...didn't have to get Whitefolks permission to exist here, in Whitefolks nation...

Blacks have B.E.T. to look out for our entertainment interests, and it was created because we got tired of Whites having 'the other' 398 channels that don't domit like B.E.T. & TVOne

UNCF vs......millions upon millions of $$$$'s scholarships vouchers and grants that wealthy White Americans donate to the various 6,000 colleges & universities that are not HBCU and therefore esteem and uplift White American principles....and you are wrong about Congress and White House and SCOTUS, vs. NAACP, or else you'll be able to show a Time that those 3 branches did NOT focus mainly on White interests and uplifting White people.

The key words are "similar explicitly racially-exclusive"; to qualify as such, something has to directly declare its racial exclusivity; which is upheld. That's not the same as an organization/practice being mostly comprised of one race.

So, as I stated earlier:

The key difference is that the bolded are examples of explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for which the similar institutions/practices for whites would be considered "racist"; while the underlined examples are not explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices.

The red portion is moot, since neither I, nor the opening post have argued whether the creation of explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for non-whites were given "permission" by whites.

 

[fiat_money]

What is moot, is your mindset that ...

because a org doesn't OPENLY communicate it's Caucasian interests goals and purpose...

Since explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices are being referred to, it makes sense that the explicitness or openness of the racial exclusivity is a key factor; for if it wasn't open/explicit, it wouldn't be an explicitly racially-exclusive institution/practice in the first place.

If I was referring to something that "doesn't OPENLY communicate it's Caucasian interests goals and purpose", I wouldn't use the word "explicitly".

 

[Kushington]

I cant believe yall actually debating this

For hundreds of years whites had "whites only" stuff in most facets of society

Anything ethnically exclusive was created to counteract the damage done by the many years of all white ness

 

[And Step]

Wow! Kind of weird to read you cosign something as incorrect and volatile as this;

Volatile? Maybe. Incorrect? No.

This was obviously the stone that hit you. People have assumed you were a white boy or a black liberal so it makes sense.

There are people who fit this description whether you like it or not.

Black Poverty pimps use this line all the time. They protest, picket, and bring lawsuits against white corporations with the hope of getting sponsorship or cash for their negro progress organizations. It is legalized extortion. We know how the game is played.

Pseudo-white liberals are the second worst enemy of black people. Hands down.

 

[fiat_money]

... listed in the OP for where Whites have reserved minority-Races exclusivity, out of an understanding that Whites control the dominat culture the larger society-----that you won't discuss nor quantify those org's existing within, for marginalizing and trivializing their micro-standing vs. Caucasians macro-control over their non-White existence.

Since:

...What's being referred to is the lack of or negative connotation of certain explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices for whites--due to being categorized as "racist"--despite such institutions/practices existing for non-whites...

I see no reason to refute the existence of alleged/existing implicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices as a means to substantiate the observations being made about explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices.

It's pretty a pretty straightforward observation.

 

[Kushington]

Since:I see no reason to refute the existence of alleged/existing implicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices as a means to substantiate the observations being made about explicitly racially-exclusive institutions/practices.

It's pretty a pretty straightforward observation.

Its a valid observation theoretically. But in pratice, considering whites have historically benefitted from their own racially exclusive pratices, the notion of ethnically-white exclusive pratices in this day and age is ridiculous.

A more cogent argument would be the elimination of any racially exclusive institutions, but which could possibly cause a return to the racially exclusive pratices which were the initial reason minorities recieved what is now seen as preferential treatment.

While De jure segregation and oppression has been eliminated, De facto still permeates many facets of american society, which still places whites at an advantage, regardless of any institutions or pratices that are officially created for whites, as they were in the past.

 

[Craig Robinson]

You do realize you are not forced to live in Amerikkka, right? You can save up and leave any time you want. You choose to live there. Just saying. If you noticed you weren't being treated fairly long ago why not take the next plane/boat outta there and go somewhere else?

Here we go with this...so just leave instead of trying to make it better?

Smh @ the Lebron logic rubbing off on you

 

[fiat_money]

Its a valid observation theoretically. But in pratice...

Theories come post-observation. An observation is merely the witnessing/noting/recognition of a fact/occurrence. A theory is something that is in some form based on an observation. So I don't think there's any sort of theoretical/practical duality for an actual observation; it just exists as an observation.

And I think the positions of "De facto" and "De jure" should be reversed in your statement.