Questions and Statements about God...

[alissowack]

People debate Evolution which has more proof than any origin story including the bullshit placed in the Bible. All religion has origin stories with no proof or evidence to ANY of them. Lol that alone nullifies anything you have to say. Prove to me unicorns, and witch craft is real start there. LMMFAO.

Well, Evolution hasn't proven how life began in the first place. It may have proven how species change over time. Evolution is just as much in the dark on how life originated than a believer who believes life originated from God no matter how many bones you throw.

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

Well, Evolution hasn't proven how life began in the first place. It may have proven how species change over time. Evolution is just as much in the dark on how life originated than a believer who believes life originated from God no matter how many bones you throw.

Umm no

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[alissowack]

Umm no

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Evolution is yet to show how the simplest cell came to be...and how the components of the cell came to be...and how the components of the components of the cell came to be...so on and so on.

 

[swag_king365]

soooooo he needs an army to proect the truth? He needs an army to fight the enemy he created? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

what about wars in heaven?

If god is the truth then how in hell can the truth be in danger?

truth is alway in danger because evil (the opposition) doesnt not want it to be known. Evil is evil. misery loves company, etc...

 

[tri3w]

People debate Evolution which has more proof than any origin story including the bullshit placed in the Bible. All religion has origin stories with no proof or evidence to ANY of them. Lol that alone nullifies anything you have to say. Prove to me unicorns, and witch craft is real start there. LMMFAO.

Not nessarily.............Evolution Shows how speices changed over time to wat they look now............it really doesnt Prove or Dispove anything, for all pratical purposes Evolution could have taken place alonng within the creation story, if u really think about, things change along, Speices gett bnetter, smarter, stronger..........i think People who try to use it "disprove Religon" r using it wrong

 

[alissowack]

Not nessarily.............Evolution Shows how speices changed over time to wat they look now............it really doesnt Prove or Dispove anything, for all pratical purposes Evolution could have taken place alonng within the creation story, if u really think about, things change along, Speices gett bnetter, smarter, stronger..........i think People who try to use it "disprove Religon" r using it wrong

I never thought I would be doing this but...Co-Sign!!!

 

[tri3w]

I never thought I would be doing this but...Co-Sign!!!

lol y not??? lol

 

[alissowack]

lol y not??? lol

I'm not a big co-signer person. I usually let a poster I agree with shine on their own. Besides, it takes up unecessary room in a thread. I hate to open a thread and everybody is co-signing everybody. But you hit on the point about people using science to disprove religion and I was like...Co-Sign!!!!

 

[tri3w]

I'm not a big co-signer person. I usually let a poster I agree with shine on their own. Besides, it takes up unecessary room in a thread. I hate to open a thread and everybody is co-signing everybody. But you hit on the point about people using science to disprove religion and I was like...Co-Sign!!!!

Well u cant U science to Disaprove the Existants of a being that is suppose to Dwell outside Human Comprehension, it makes no sense............U either believe in the possiblity of His Existence or u dont.........either way the choice is urs.........but thx 4 the CoSign

 

[alissowack]

so the truth can never be evil? the truth is never bad?

Truth determines what is good or evil. Lies distort what is good or evil.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Is there an angel bible? Why are there wars in every world this god creates?
Why does he need protection in the first dam place?

1. God created angels before He created the universe. Job 38 speaks about the angels shouting for joy when God created the heavens and the earth.

Job 38
1Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm. He said:
2“Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?
3Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
7while the morning stars sang together
and all the angelsa shouted for joy?

2. God doesn't need an army. He is the beginning and the end. He needs nothing to sustain His being.

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Revelation 22:13

3. I don't know if there is an "angel bible", but there are books in heaven.

4. Well there are only 3 worlds which mankind knows about. This universe, heaven, and hades. Wars exist in these places because of the sin and rebellion which exists in the hearts of mankind and demons.

5. God doesn't need protection. The word Angel means messenger. They act on behalf of God. If God needed protection, that would mean that He wouldn't be the Al-Mighty. No one can defeat God. Many people will find out this harsh reality on the last day.

 

[UPTOWN]

I believe that when wars are started, they are not meant necessarily to kill a person in charge...it is to kill an ideology; what that person stood for. I believe God wasn't fearing for His Life but He understood what He stood for; what He represented (in this case, what God represented was who He was and is). The truth is more in danger than His Life. God gave His Life through His Son so that we may still have a chance to know the Truth.

u do realize this makes no sense right???

No it hasn't. As a matter fact, we wouldn't be arguing the point if it has been proven. Everyone would agree that it is. A majority may rule, but everyone doesn't agree with what you say.

no ones arguing LOL .... u just simply didnt answer the question LOL

 

[UPTOWN]

1. God created angels before He created the universe. Job 38 speaks about the angels shouting for joy when God created the heavens and the earth.

Job 38

1Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm. He said:

2“Who is this that darkens my counsel

with words without knowledge?

3Brace yourself like a man;

I will question you,

and you shall answer me.

4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?

Tell me, if you understand.

5Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!

Who stretched a measuring line across it?

6On what were its footings set,

or who laid its cornerstone—

7while the morning stars sang together

and all the angelsa shouted for joy?

2. God doesn't need an army. He is the beginning and the end. He needs nothing to sustain His being.



"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Revelation 22:13

3. I don't know if there is an "angel bible", but there are books in heaven.

4. Well there are only 3 worlds which mankind knows about. This universe, heaven, and hades. Wars exist in these places because of the sin and rebellion which exists in the hearts of mankind and demons.

5. God doesn't need protection. The word Angel means messenger. They act on behalf of God. If God needed protection, that would mean that He wouldn't be the Al-Mighty. No one can defeat God. Many people will find out this harsh reality on the last day.

" and IN THE BEGINNING god created the heavens and the earth" ..... there is no mention of angels being created from this point to where adam is created ..... face it

 

[alissowack]

u do realize this makes no sense right???

no ones arguing LOL .... u just simply didnt answer the question LOL

What I mean by "arguing" is not necessarily applied to this thread. I mean this in general; that if the theory of Evolution is an well established fact or if it is true in every single way, then people like me would be like..."Well, I agree with you 100%". But, there are people who have serious doubt about it and there are not just of the religious variety. So you going to have someone opposed to it.

As far as making sense, I can be dumb as bricks but God is not interested in your (or even mine) "book knowledge" about Him. It is whether or not when God says He is God, then He is. It's a matter of trust; a matter of faith.

 

[alissowack]

The problem is that God has never said shit! It's individual people who claim that God has spoken/inspired them. Every book, bible included, was written by man. As a matter of fact the bible was authored by people who didn't actually witness shit, and those that supposedly witness so called biblical accounts didn't write shit down. Or maybe I'm wrong, well let's say not completely right, hey I'm just a man too.

I see you have taken what I said to heart. By me saying that "God said", you may have thought I was saying it to mean...He talked to me. That was not the intention. However, it still comes down to trust; it still comes down to faith.

The problem I believe is that people just don't believe when some says something word-of-mouth or written and a lot of that is because people do lie. People do try to scam, cheat, and con so to just hear me say, "God exists", invites presuppositions that don't have anything to do with where I am getting this from. If God exists, does it matter what I, along with the writers of the Bible, think about the matter? What is there to truly gain from telling you to believe in God? I might get "big-headed" and think I have something to gain but it doesn't change anything if God exists. God would be who He is apart from your and even my understanding.

 

[UPTOWN]

What I mean by "arguing" is not necessarily applied to this thread. I mean this in general; that if the theory of Evolution is an well established fact or if it is true in every single way, then people like me would be like..."Well, I agree with you 100%". But, there are people who have serious doubt about it and there are not just of the religious variety. So you going to have someone opposed to it.

As far as making sense, I can be dumb as bricks but God is not interested in your (or even mine) "book knowledge" about Him. It is whether or not when God says He is God, then He is. It's a matter of trust; a matter of faith.

what are you talking about ?? LOL first you were talking about god preserving the truth etc .. now ur talking about evolution and faith ....LOL what are we discussing here

this is what you said "I believe God wasn't fearing for His Life but He understood what He stood for; what He represented (in this case, what God represented was who He was and is). The truth is more in danger than His Life. God gave His Life through His Son so that we may still have a chance to know the Truth."

now what im saying is it doesnt make sense. how can the devil hide the truth of god from people??? all god has to do is talk to us the same way he talked to moses, noah, and everybody else. its funny how people put faith as their number 1 priority. based on your beliefs, what you just said is blasphemy!!! ....

god doesnt need or want anything right?? so how can god need or want to "preserve the truth"?? he doesnt have to ... he can bring the truth and destroy the devil "within a blinking of an eye" by your own definition of faith .... you are contradicting your own self

yes there are thing we dont know about life and "god" etc etc .... but my whole thing is, even if the things you say are true, you still dont follow them no matter how simple they are. god tells you things according to your own beliefs, then when someone questions you, you dont know the answer becuase you never even bothered to even try to understand. it seems like faith was put here to throw you off your own path .... and ur so weak minded that it works everytime LOL ..

by your own definition .... you're going to hell ... im just tryin to help u out LOL

 

[UPTOWN]

The problem is that God has never said shit! It's individual people who claim that God has spoken/inspired them. Every book, bible included, was written by man. As a matter of fact the bible was authored by people who didn't actually witness shit, and those that supposedly witness so called biblical accounts didn't write shit down. Or maybe I'm wrong, well let's say not completely right, hey I'm just a man too.

ur actually exactly right LOL

all these quotes from jesus and god and any other prophet werent recorded till GENERATIONS LATER. even christian scholars acknowledge this ..

but its not all about slamming christianity etc ... alot of things they are supposed to do are good things and would help humanity ... but its been so twisted over time that the average christian doesnt know the difference between whats in the bible and what people made up along the way. one thing about the bible is that alot of the stories in the torah have been recorded in different cultures in different places throughout the world. for example ... pretty much the same time that noahs flood was going on, people in south america and the far east reported or told of a cataclism too ... in noahs area there might have been a flood, but in the americas they may have reported "fire coming down from the sky" ...... so being that it all happened at the same time ... its not a far reach at all to say it was all the same event, its just that different locations would have been effected differently

so there is truth to the bible .... but people cant tell me faith is a number one priority. you cant just quit because you find some things hard to understand and say "oh well i have faith that god will take care of it" thats not in the bible ... but if you ask an average christian ... they post some scripture they dont even understand just because it sounds like it fits in with the topic. and they always steer away from the basics of common knowledge just to believe some fairytale that king james had written

smh head at god creating adam from the ground and then magically implanting jesus into a virgin JUST TO IMPRESS "CHRISTIANS" .... THEY'LL SAY "well he did that miracle to show he loves you"

thats blasphemy!!!

times change, people change, but god doesnt

god doesnt need or want to do special things to help you "believe" in him ... just "believing" in god itself is a sin .... GOD NEVER SAYS BELIEVE IN ME ... HE SAYS KNOW ME ... you should know for a fact that god exists LOL and thats what i mean when i say they dont even follow their own beliefs

 

[kingblaze84]

Miracles can't save you, sir.

Praise the lord!

 

[alissowack]

what are you talking about ?? LOL first you were talking about god preserving the truth etc .. now ur talking about evolution and faith ....LOL what are we discussing here

this is what you said "I believe God wasn't fearing for His Life but He understood what He stood for; what He represented (in this case, what God represented was who He was and is). The truth is more in danger than His Life. God gave His Life through His Son so that we may still have a chance to know the Truth."

now what im saying is it doesnt make sense. how can the devil hide the truth of god from people??? all god has to do is talk to us the same way he talked to moses, noah, and everybody else. its funny how people put faith as their number 1 priority. based on your beliefs, what you just said is blasphemy!!! ....

god doesnt need or want anything right?? so how can god need or want to "preserve the truth"?? he doesnt have to ... he can bring the truth and destroy the devil "within a blinking of an eye" by your own definition of faith .... you are contradicting your own self

yes there are thing we dont know about life and "god" etc etc .... but my whole thing is, even if the things you say are true, you still dont follow them no matter how simple they are. god tells you things according to your own beliefs, then when someone questions you, you dont know the answer becuase you never even bothered to even try to understand. it seems like faith was put here to throw you off your own path .... and ur so weak minded that it works everytime LOL ..

by your own definition .... you're going to hell ... im just tryin to help u out LOL

Maybe if you paid attention to my little sparring with I-Rap (not saying that I won), then you will know why I responded that way. I don't know if you have read in great detail with the Bible, but even when God did speak, it didn't stop the people from disobeying. David was called by God to be king and what did he do in his reign, committed adultery and murder. Moses was called by God to lead His people into the Promise Land but he couldn't go in with them because he disobeyed. Esau lied so he could get the blessing Abraham was called by God to give to Jacob. Peter was one of Jesus's disciples who said he would die for him but denied him when he was being called out. Then you got Judas....

The Devil can hide the truth easily because in actuality, we don't want the truth especially if it threatens something we value more than it. He knows that because of sin, we are not going to just choose God no matter if God verbally said something, or did something miraculous like somebody rising from the dead.

 

[alissowack]

god doesnt need or want to do special things to help you "believe" in him ... just "believing" in god itself is a sin .... GOD NEVER SAYS BELIEVE IN ME ... HE SAYS KNOW ME ... you should know for a fact that god exists LOL and thats what i mean when i say they dont even follow their own beliefs

Know as in...I know my multiplication tables or know as in...I know my best friend? When I was saying that God was not interested in "book knowledge", that is what I meant. God desires that we know Him relationally. If all God wants is for us to just know the facts and live a morally good life, then anybody can do that. Then, there are "Christians" everywhere. But that is not what God wants from us.

I know ol' Blue and Heaven would not like me using the NIV Bible (jokingly), but:

John 3:16- For God so loved the world he gave his one and only son, that whoever...believes...in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.