Questions and Statements about God...

[judahxulu]

Do you have an understanding(overstanding) of the question you asked?

Yeah, but I wanna see what ya'll think right now. From the wise posters to the smart dumb niggas on here; its allways a learning experience. Plus its interesting to see people who rightfully cant get with the whole bastardization of the Right Knowledge found in the Tanach altogether reject the encoded Truth by failing to make the proper lines of demarcation between the source Hebraic concepts and the Greco-Roman counterfeit. It is astounding how the power of a lie can make a man of knowledge with no wisdom unconsciously co-sign the falsehood by disputing it with in the very paradigm it creates.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Yeah, but I wanna see what ya'll think right now. From the wise posters to the smart dumb niggas on here; its allways a learning experience. Plus its interesting to see people who rightfully cant get with the whole bastardization of the Right Knowledge found in the Tanach altogether reject the encoded Truth by failing to make the proper lines of demarcation between the source Hebraic concepts and the Greco-Roman counterfeit. It is astounding how the power of a lie can make a man of knowledge with no wisdom unconsciously co-sign the falsehood by disputing it with in the very paradigm it creates.

I figured you did. I was curious as to what you've learned about it.

 

[judahxulu]

I figured you did. I was curious as to what you've learned about it.

Well the beginning of my overstanding is that YHWH is not a title insamuch as it is a designation of force emanating from the Creator which is too big to fit in the box of a proper name with human characteristics/gender/thoughts. Overstanding the eternal ideal of Ain Soph will cause man to be comfortable with the Truth that everything is everything because something out of nothing is the fractal signature of the nature of YHWH. Nothing is something and everything because for something to be nothing it has to be qualified and quantified as such.
" There is a thing confusedly formed,
born before heaven and earth.
Silent and void
It stands alone and does not change,
Goes round and does not weary" - Lao Tzu (TAO TE CHING)

"I am YHWH, I change not therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.." Malachi 3:6

"Surely Adonai YHWH will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets" Amos 3:7

If man realizes the I AM of creative potential X extra-dimensional manifestation then he will begin to see i.e. be a prophet. Even without the conscious grasp of this, we are the envy/hope of the universe because no other species can make SOMETHING OUT OF NO-THING.

The "energy" spoken of is the software. Means of access are drives. These come in different sizes, models and modalities. There is a Master Programmer who self-replicates. The DOS language is C.I. not A.I. (Creative Intelligence vs Artificial Intelligience). Fools blame the software for hardware issues due to poor maintenance and power surges (usually manifesting as under activity in the left temporal lobe or over activity in the limbic system [wiles of the "serpent"]).

[video=youtube;wUUvTLGutXg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUUvTLGutXg[/video]

^ For your perusal.

P.S. Religions are phishing sites. Install anti-virus programs immediately!!!

 

[Chike]

but where did the energy come from?

It's always been. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, it just changes form. We can't comprehend this because we perceive a beginning and an end. For us, it's easier to comprehend everlasting life, but not having always existed with no beginning.

 

[judahxulu]

pretty intresting video judah (even though some of that shit went way over my head).
but you know we don't trust devils here! lol

LMAO!! Well I never convince myself I understand completely the first time I watch something like that. I always follow the play/pause/cross-reference rule. I don't know if he qualifies as a "devil" or not, but I stay with my ear to the fringe of the fringe of metaphysical info from weird sources as opposed to the standard conspiracy/truth movement fare as the fringe of the fringe is the stuff that "devils" actually apply to stay in power. I'm on some Sun-Tzu shit.....

 

[judahxulu]

It's always been. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, it just changes form. We can't comprehend this because we perceive a beginning and an end. For us, it's easier to comprehend everlasting life, but not having always existed with no beginning.

Me likey the Laws of Thermodynamics! I agree to a certain extent. So then by that logic do religionists have spiritual supremacy confused with what goes on the process of Einsteins theory that when energy is added to a system, the system gains mass?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Well I was gonna explain the energy thing but you and Chike pretty much summed up all that I was gonna say so. I dont know if yall believe it has a mind of its own or whatever, I don't I just consider it energy and nothing more.

 

[judahxulu]

Well I was gonna explain the energy thing but you and Chike pretty much summed up all that I was gonna say so. I dont know if yall believe it has a mind of its own or whatever, I don't I just consider it energy and nothing more.

In your opinion or according to your understanding, does the aforementioned energy move within ordered systems?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

In your opinion or according to your understanding, does the aforementioned energy move within ordered systems?

From my understanding, energy only moves in an ordered system when it encounters some sort of chemical reaction. Some systems of order it would, for the most part though no I dont think it does. In the universe specifically I believe it moves just as the galaxies do, it just floats around randomly if its bunched together somewhere.

 

[judahxulu]

From my understanding, energy only moves in an ordered system when it encounters some sort of chemical reaction. Some systems of order it would, for the most part though no I dont think it does. In the universe specifically I believe it moves just as the galaxies do, it just floats around randomly if its bunched together somewhere.

So you subscribe to a Big Bang-esque cosmogony?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Is the nature of these chemical reactions you mentioned dynamic or static?

Static, I believe that Dynamic is only when the reaction is reversable. The changes of the reactions im talking about are not reversable, at least not to our knowledge of space and what its made of. So for now it would be considered static but we havent really conducted anything in space, such as test stars, the sun, comets etc.. to understand fully 100% sure wether it has a static or dynamic equilibrium. I could be wrong im not a chemist or anything, but even though in static energy, the particles are resting and have no force on seperate particles, a ball of energy could still succome to an outside force that pushes it as a whole. To better explain it would be like this

The universe as a whole which i believe people think of as god being it created everything, would be dynamic energy, to me it is reversable because if it explodes, it can destroy what it recreated which is reversal. Also blackholes can suck itself out of existence.

The contents of the universe, starts, the sun, planets, people etc.. are static.

As far as wormholes and things such as that, I have no idea.

It might not make sense like I said im far from a chemist, but to the best of my ability to explain it, thats how I see it.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Well the beginning of my overstanding is that YHWH is not a title insamuch as it is a designation of force emanating from the Creator which is too big to fit in the box of a proper name with human characteristics/gender/thoughts. Overstanding the eternal ideal of Ain Soph will cause man to be comfortable with the Truth that everything is everything because something out of nothing is the fractal signature of the nature of YHWH. Nothing is something and everything because for something to be nothing it has to be qualified and quantified as such.

If man realizes the I AM of creative potential X extra-dimensional manifestation then he will begin to see i.e. be a prophet. Even without the conscious grasp of this, we are the envy/hope of the universe because no other species can make SOMETHING OUT OF NO-THING.

The "energy" spoken of is the software. Means of access are drives. These come in different sizes, models and modalities. There is a Master Programmer who self-replicates. The DOS language is C.I. not A.I. (Creative Intelligence vs Artificial Intelligience). Fools blame the software for hardware issues due to poor maintenance and power surges (usually manifesting as under activity in the left temporal lobe or over activity in the limbic system [wiles of the "serpent"]).

Hmmm, are you saying that energy came from no-thing which is something that is everything?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

So you subscribe to a Big Bang-esque cosmogony?

Pretty much

 

[judahxulu]

Hmmm, are you saying that energy came from no-thing which is something that is everything?

In a basic sense, yeah.

 

[Chike]

Well I was gonna explain the energy thing but you and Chike pretty much summed up all that I was gonna say so. I dont know if yall believe it has a mind of its own or whatever, I don't I just consider it energy and nothing more.

Well the crazy thing about it is... what is 'mind' really? We have a mind, and if you think about it, our very thoughts are somehow fueled by energy that flows through our brain. So in a sense, if we can think, that means energy can think, but maybe it just needs a certain structure, such as a brain, in order to become conscious. Which brings up another question.... how did our brains accidentally become what they are capable of doing, which is to allow energy to become conscious?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Well the crazy thing about it is... what is 'mind' really? We have a mind, and if you think about it, our very thoughts are somehow fueled by energy that flows through our brain. So in a sense, if we can think, that means energy can think, but maybe it just needs a certain structure, such as a brain, in order to become conscious. Which brings up another question.... how did our brains accidentally become what they are capable of doing, which is to allow energy to become conscious?

I have been thinking on something like this for some 'time' now, that for energy to get to the point it has, which is the vastness of its forms, could it do it without being conscious already or having some sort of memory?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Well the crazy thing about it is... what is 'mind' really? We have a mind, and if you think about it, our very thoughts are somehow fueled by energy that flows through our brain. So in a sense, if we can think, that means energy can think, but maybe it just needs a certain structure, such as a brain, in order to become conscious. Which brings up another question.... how did our brains accidentally become what they are capable of doing, which is to allow energy to become conscious?

But the brain does not work without our body, so for a "God" to be energy thinking, it would need some sort of body to give life to it. Take our brain out and test it, there are is no response so it isnt acting, while it is in us though its constantly thinking. That means one of the two, either energy outside of the body cannot fuel it like I said, or when our brain is removed and we die, it transfers it thoughts and memory to a distant energy source that we dont know about.

 

[Chike]

But the brain does not work without our body, so for a "God" to be energy thinking, it would need some sort of body to give life to it. Take our brain out and test it, there are is no response so it isnt acting, while it is in us though its constantly thinking. That means one of the two, either energy outside of the body cannot fuel it like I said, or when our brain is removed and we die, it transfers it thoughts and memory to a distant energy source that we dont know about.

Right because the brain need nutrition to survive and function, but it's still deep to think about how life works and how consciousness works with a need for energy, which everything in the universe needs in order to be in the state it's n currently. Maybe if we are just energy, and in order to be able to 'think' in this realm of existence, energy needs a body and brain in order to do so. But maybe when our bodies die and our energy leaves and becomes one with all energy in the universe, that there is a different form of consciousness that doesn't require brain, but also does not perceive reality the way we do.

I don't have a simpler way of explaining what I'm trying to say, but I just felt like being deep. lol

 

[ThaChozenWun]

I know what your sayin Chike, for it to leave our realm of energy and enter into one that feeds off of everythings energy would be implying that the spirit does leave the body basically. That would make a good argument for someone who wants to get into why Heaven could possibly be real stuff. As for me, I think all energy needs some sort of fuel to keep it going. Once we die, our energies fuel source is cut off and I think we're just done at that point, we run out of fuel and our energy runs itself out.

 

[TX_Made713]

Would you be mad if your children totally disrespected you by not believing you existed even though you provide them with food, shelter, and clothing?

come on now....

how is it disrespect for not believing something thats pretty impossible to prove outside of "Well I heard from my local church that if you put extra money in the collection plate god will bless you". God is superior. Period. Why would it matter if we believed or not? He knows he did it. We all goin die eventually and see if so regardless of if we dont believe we'll find out at some point.

So your saying if you made a universe and never let your presence be seen or visibly supported outside of he say she say, you'd be angry at people for not believing? especially when your universe consist of rules that require "knowledge" to sustain?

if you seen a river of water, would you jump inside of it with nothing but pure belief that its shallow enough to survive in? or would you find out how deep it is then go from there?

be rational