Questions and Statements about God...

[ItzGravitation]

how do you know that?

either you cant comprhend what youread or want to be difficult.

 

[And Step]

If humans can not understand God why do you go to church were a HUMAN teaches you about............GOD.

More illogical bullshit from Jesus Freaks.

Damning, yet Sobering.

 

[And Step]

We can.

We just can't comprehend the BS, mystified, spookism that is passed of as God, by a shady, sheisty deceiver.

I comprehend God everyday.

 

[VIBE]

If you can comprehend something, you do not question it, you explain it.

With God, everyone questions and cannot explain. The bible has the answers, it's up to us to have the faith to believe or not. Forget about the bible being mostly allegorical, the point here is God created everything in the beginning. It's explained perfectly in Genesis, if we cannot put faith into that then God and the rest of the bible we will not be able to comprehend.

When I go to church (which I haven't in like 2 years) a human doesn't TEACH me about GOD, he teaches me about the what the bible says and means.

 

[theillestrator]

God didn't create humans, it was humans who created God.

Exactly. People are going to make their god as complicated as they want him to be, as caring as they want him to be, as angry as they want him to be. Why? Because no one really knows the answer so they create one. Some go so far as to claim that it's obvious that there is a god. They are only convincing themselves of that. I know it's cliche now, but it is almost the same as a child and his relationship with Santa. Lay in the bed at night, "Santa, could you please bring me a PS3 this year." At that moment, that kid is convinced that someone is listening to him. Those gifts come from somewhere and he has been told that Santa has done it. The kid later learns the truth when he grows up and his parents explain it. Take the adult laying in the bed at night, "God, could you help me get a job to support my family." At that moment, the adult is convinced that someone is listening to him. That job comes and he is under the impression that his prayers are answered. The adult never learns the truth because no one knows what the truth is. Why can't you comprehend god? Because you don't know if there is one. It can be hard to explain another human's creation.

 

[VIBE]

Why must God be a lie? What makes you so positive he is a lie? We have a bible, that explains things which = faith, belief & a relationship with God. What do you have to disprove everything in the bible?

 

[theillestrator]

Why must God be a lie? What makes you so positive he is a lie? We have a bible, that explains things which = faith, belief & a relationship with God. What do you have to disprove everything in the bible?

What do you have to prove it? When god made land animals, it specifically says cattle was in the group. Do you believe that cattle was amongst the first land animals? I don't. It also said god made the heavens and the earth. Do you believe god made the heavens and the earth? I don't. It also says that god sent his son to die for our sins. Do you believe someone died for our sins? I don't. The tower of babel story. Do you believe that's why there were different languages? I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but the bible surely isn't going to convince me otherwise. We have a bible? We also have the bhagavad gita. We also have the vedas. We also have the quran. We also have mormons adding stuff to the bible. I don't know the answer, but I have a strong feeling about what's not the answer. I'm not trying to insult your beliefs in anyway. The bible appears to be nothing more than the work of humans. There's nothing in the bible, that says, no way humans of that time could write this. There's two things humans don't know right now...1) where we came from and 2) where we're going. However, almost every religious text doesn't try to answer those two, but claim to know the answer. why is the bible different?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

why is the bible different?

Because,

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." Proverbs 30:5

Do you know Him my friend?

 

[theillestrator]

Because,

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." Proverbs 30:5

Do you know Him my friend?

So your answer to why is the bible different is an actual quote from the bible? You should be a lawyer...

Them: Why is your client not guilty?
You: Because my client said that he isn't guilty.

 

[VIBE]

What do you have to prove it? When god made land animals, it specifically says cattle was in the group. Do you believe that cattle was amongst the first land animals? I don't. It also said god made the heavens and the earth. Do you believe god made the heavens and the earth? I don't. It also says that god sent his son to die for our sins. Do you believe someone died for our sins? I don't. The tower of babel story. Do you believe that's why there were different languages? I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but the bible surely isn't going to convince me otherwise. We have a bible? We also have the bhagavad gita. We also have the vedas. We also have the quran. We also have mormons adding stuff to the bible. I don't know the answer, but I have a strong feeling about what's not the answer. I'm not trying to insult your beliefs in anyway. The bible appears to be nothing more than the work of humans. There's nothing in the bible, that says, no way humans of that time could write this. There's two things humans don't know right now...1) where we came from and 2) where we're going. However, almost every religious text doesn't try to answer those two, but claim to know the answer. why is the bible different?

Nah, my beliefs aren't insulted because I see all view points and to an extent understand why you think these things.

Why do you NOT believe God created the Heavens and the earth?

Why do you NOT believe God sent His Son to die for our sins?

Why do I believe? Because in my view point, the bible is the word of God. Granted not to be taken super literally, but nonetheless it is His word.

People ask, where did we come from? The bible answers that.

People ask, where are we going? The bible answers that.

People ask, what's good and bad? The bible answers that.

I would say, safely, 100% of the questions needed to know about human life, morals and all are in the bible. How does someone back in those days just make all this up? And it just happens to coincide with our lives today? How does Revelation just happen to explain our times? Even that the Egyptians wrote that the plagues happened, that Moses did exist?

There's plenty of things that we can match up that we find today to then.

Yes, there are religions and their books have been changed. Maybe the bible has been changed as well to an extent. It will never change the fact that God exists. The original Hebrew texts prove it, if I could read Hebrew I would read those but I can't.

 

[theillestrator]

Nah, my beliefs aren't insulted because I see all view points and to an extent understand why you think these things.

Why do you NOT believe God created the Heavens and the earth?
Why do you NOT believe God sent His Son to die for our sins?

Why do I believe? Because in my view point, the bible is the word of God. Granted not to be taken super literally, but nonetheless it is His word.

People ask, where did we come from? The bible answers that.
People ask, where are we going? The bible answers that.
People ask, what's good and bad? The bible answers that.

I would say, safely, 100% of the questions needed to know about human life, morals and all are in the bible. How does someone back in those days just make all this up? And it just happens to coincide with our lives today? How does Revelation just happen to explain our times? Even that the Egyptians wrote that the plagues happened, that Moses did exist?

There's plenty of things that we can match up that we find today to then.

Yes, there are religions and their books have been changed. Maybe the bible has been changed as well to an extent. It will never change the fact that God exists. The original Hebrew texts prove it, if I could read Hebrew I would read those but I can't.

I respect your views, but that doesn't change anything that I've said. The bible may provide answers to things we want to know, but that doesn't make it the right answer. And I don't think you should underestimate the intelligence of people back then. What is there in the bible that just couldn't be made by man? Nothing that I've read. And to answer your questions:

This is why I don't believe that your god created the heavens and earth. For one, the scale of things. If you shrink down the universe to where the earth is the size of a tennis ball, then the nearest star would be around 300 miles away. The sun, the greater light, isn't that great compared to the other "lights." Couldn't the bible have explained day and night a little more, intelligently? Instead it's just a god playing LittleBigPlanet, in a sense.

This is why I don't believe anyone died for our sins: It seems it's only to make people feel guilty. Soon as you are able to understand what people are saying you are supposedly in debt. Hey, god's son died for you so you need to do something about this. Huh? Honestly, this story just doesn't seem necessary.

And I always ask this, who says the bible isn't meant to be taken literally. If your entire afterlife depends on this one book, why wouldn't it? Does the bible say that it's just being poetic on this part, but take it word for word on that part? How does Revelations explain our times? I mean specifically. Nostradamus made predictions too that would seem accurate.

I'll be honest with you, the bible just isn't the answer for me. I'm okay with not knowing where we come from even though it would be great to know. With that said, I just can't accept the popular answer.

As I said in an earlier post, people just convince themselves that their faith is right. Either way, you seem to be happy with it and that's all humans really need in life is happiness.

 

[Rock_Well]

God didn't create humans, it was humans who created God.

^a human cannot 'create' anything completely and absolutely of his own , so....that is quite the bogus assessment.

 

[Hyde Parke]

either you cant comprhend what youread or want to be difficult.

smh, nevermind. I didnt realize who I was replying to.

 

[melanated khemist]

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

The reason why we cannot comprehend "god", on assumption there is one:

In the beginning god dwelt in darkness; there was no light, god had not created it. Humans cannot truly understand absolute darkness because they need light to survive.

God's abode is without form: a void. Humans cannot truly understand void because they are a form in themselves.

And god's vibration is utter silence. It is when god spoke that there was sound. Humans cannot truly understand silence because even their own body generates sounds.

To truly understand these states you'd have to experience these states. Which we are unable to do, and so cannot even 'reach' god's abode too understand god.

this is false,and if you believe this you need to change your study and discipline. no disrespect

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

this is false,and if you believe this you need to change your study and discipline. no disrespect

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[TX_Made713]

always got to have an oddball in these threads

 

[melanated khemist]

Thanks for clearing that up.

oh my bad, i thought you believed that shit

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

oh my bad, i thought you believed that shit

Oh my bad, I was being sarcastic about you being so vague.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

First off, on Noahs ark he was to take animals who only breathed through the nostrils. People say this is because anything else could live. Insects now don't breath through nostrils most of the time, they couldnt have survived a great flood, and they werent on Noahs ark. Second is sea creatures, Ive always asked where did Noah store them? Thats alot of water to keep them alive on the boat, now obviously most sea creatures breath through gills. However at the proposed date, their were over 1000 types of sea creatures who breathed through Nostrils, some of these being very large whales. If Noah rescued them as well, why is there no mention of him building sea world on the boat? Does god not know all the animals he created enough to notify Noah he's missing some. Better yet if someone wants to say "well the writers just forgot to mention it" as the so often do. How did Noah gets animals that weighed tons from water and onto his boat?

Next is the whole Adam and Eve eating a apple at breakfast time stuff. God punished those two siblings from the Garden, as for the snake.... He made him forever slither on the ground. Now theres fossil evidence that pre-dates 150,000 years ago that snakes still slithered, so how was this important? Did snakes once have legs and walk around or what, if he sentence every snake to crawl on their stomach on the Earth they must have walked at some point right? Or again did God just not know they already did that?

The last I'll mention for now is insects. The bible clearly says all insects that crawl, have 4 legs, are edible which is clearly not true. Insects have 6 feet, not 4. Jehovah told them they could eat locusts, grasshoppers, crickets, katydids, even beetles, but not any other kind of insects... especially the ficticious and non-existent 4 footed kind. Try as they might, they could never find, never set eyes upon, an insect with four legs. So why the prohibition against eating something that doesn't exist?

Some people say that the "fowls" mentioned a good bit earlier in the book indicate they ment birds not insects, however same thing, when have you ever seen a bird with 4 feet? The only logical way to explain this is with grasshoppers only, being that the very front legs could be considered arms by someone who has to believe. Again, God not knowing his ish, or a simple case of oops we fucked up my bad.

Oh did I mention I found out the Quran says the same thing!!!! Two man made books say the same thing? Smh @ me for not believin this it has to be true. God must be painting me the illusion that they have 6.

 

[theillestrator]

^a human cannot 'create' anything completely and absolutely of his own , so....that is quite the bogus assessment.

he's saying that humans created god in the way humans created Batman.