Questions and Statements about God...

[oliverlang]

Its enough for God to continually plauge their land.

No land has been free from plauge...god is the ultimate hater.

 

[blue falcon]

No land has been free from plauge...god is the ultimate hater.

Indeed but Haiti just can't seem to catch a break. That isn't by accident. And yes God does hate. Read Psalm 5:5 and Psalm 11:5.

 

[whar67]

Beliefs are things believed that are unproven true. That is what the dicitonaries say. And yes, I infer from that, that beliefs inherently have elements of uncertainty, in the sense it could be true, or it could not. It is uncertain if the belief is true or it is not, but it is believed to be true. People may be have total conviction that the belief is true, but the belief itself, it unproven to be true.

You are making an arguement using a new definition of belief and knowledge. This is perfectly fine and you can find several sources to support your position if you were interested in looking.

here is one that argues agianst the standard justified true belief concept of knowledge ... http://www.cassetteradio.com/hazlett/myth.pdf

If you walk into a philosophy class they are going to start with knowledge as a justified belief. They will certainly add the Gettier method. This adds no fallacies to the requirement of knowledge.

One thing you will want to drop is the use of 'proven' true or 'unproven' true. This is flawed as nothing is ever proven true outside of a math class. We can never reduce uncertainty in any proposition to zero therefore all things are an 'unproven true'. Instead I prefer Wittgenstein question "If I am mistaken what would my mistake look like?" IN the example I bought a Double Gulp for me to be wrong about that I would have to be entirely delusional. I have a memory of the event. I have the soda sitting next to me. I even have a receipt for the purchase. For all that to be false I can not trust what I see or remember since the chances of that being true are almost nil I conclude with near certainty that I bought a Double Gulp.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

You are making an arguement using a new definition of belief and knowledge. This is perfectly fine and you can find several sources to support your position if you were interested in looking.

here is one that argues agianst the standard justified true belief concept of knowledge ... http://www.cassetteradio.com/hazlett/myth.pdf

If you walk into a philosophy class they are going to start with knowledge as a justified belief. They will certainly add the Gettier method. This adds no fallacies to the requirement of knowledge.

One thing you will want to drop is the use of 'proven' true or 'unproven' true. This is flawed as nothing is ever proven true outside of a math class. We can never reduce uncertainty in any proposition to zero therefore all things are an 'unproven true'. Instead I prefer Wittgenstein question "If I am mistaken what would my mistake look like?" IN the example I bought a Double Gulp for me to be wrong about that I would have to be entirely delusional. I have a memory of the event. I have the soda sitting next to me. I even have a receipt for the purchase. For all that to be false I can not trust what I see or remember since the chances of that being true are almost nil I conclude with near certainty that I bought a Double Gulp.

I find it ironic that you accuse me of attempting to make new definitions for words when that is exactly what you have been doing. I have only repeated what the dictionary says about the word belief. Further more, you accuse me of trying to make a new definition for the word knowledge which is a blatant lie. I have tried to say little on knowledge, my posts prove this. However it is you who have had the most to say about this word.

Our conversation is done.

 

[Hyde Parke]

Its enough for God to continually plauge their land.

phew, for a minute you had me concerned. Now I see, this is just your opinion.

 

[whar67]

I find it ironic that you accuse me of attempting to make new definitions for words when that is exactly what you have been doing. I have only repeated what the dictionary says about the word belief. Further more, you accuse me of trying to make a new definition for the word knowledge which is a blatant lie. I have tried to say little on knowledge, my posts prove this. However it is you who have had the most to say about this word.

Our conversation is done.

I have posted defintions for belief from 4 different dictionaries. None of them cite the absence of proof, evidence, or fact as a needed part of belief. None of them cite a level of uncertainty as a component of belief.

 

[Swiffness!]

Indeed but Haiti just can't seem to catch a break. That isn't by accident. And yes God does hate. Read Psalm 5:5 and Psalm 11:5.

Please list God's reasons for hating the following f'd up countries:

North Korea

Zimbabwe

South Africa

Mexico

Afghanistan

Somalia

Sudan

Burma

Canada

 

[getchamoneyrigh]

Why does GOD hate, when he ask's us to love?

 

[carl p]

All blacks of African descent carry the Curse of Ham. Their ignorance, laziness, rape urges, and evil pitch black skin are all plagues that stem from this curse. Whites do the Lord's work when they enslave them and drive them back in to their jungle lair.

wow..just..wow

 

[alissowack]

Why does GOD hate, when he ask's us to love?

Even in love, you have to show some sort of intolerance. You can't be loving and overlook the things that are wrong. I wouldn't even call it love if it all it does is give and is blind to those who take advangtage of it.

 

[bishop2prophet]

u ever have a special group (well there are hundreds of special groups) who always think wut they are doing is right and wut everyone else is doing wrong and they will be the only ones who go to heaven

ya ever encouter sick individuals who are muslim?

ya ever encouter sick individuals who are christians?

ya ever encouter sick individuals who are non religious?

did religion change shit? have people started to help their neighbor? ppl stopped from killing eachother? people started to love humanity...at a 84% mothafuckin rate, u would think so, buutt, NOOOOOOOOOO).

in fact, the christians i met are even more fucked up & doing more fucked up things than non religious people

if ya mention suicide to them, they crumble & pretend that it doesnt exist (fucked up when many souls die to it and they let it happen and in fact ignore it)

just because "God" dislikes homos, they use that as a means to HATE homos

how the fuck do u know that the bible is not A TEST? a test if ya follow men, that ur mind becomes HOLLOW (i did some fucked up shit in my youth that i aint proud of coz i FOLLOWED MEN)

wut is so special or different from christians to the average man? the average man lives a life without god & the christians BIBLE BASH

christians are bible bashing hoping they'll get a promotion from the boss

i mean, wut is the christian community really doing differently from the common man community? u know wut im sayin

there are billions of christians & religious people

and in fact 84% of the world is religious (i was wowed)

but ya got people bombing eachother in name of god

ya got ppl exterminating eachother in the name of god

ya got people turning the bible into a tool for hate (hebrew isrealities)

 

[Carlos Bruise-Her]

you thinking too much

 

[bishop2prophet]

you thinking too much

heh, yeah... ive been doing that a lot, my dude
how about u try it?
u might digg into a rabbit hole like i did
shit goes deep
and is fascinating

 

[Mr. AJ]

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[Carlos Bruise-Her]

heh, yeah... ive been doing that a lot, my dude
how about u try it?
u might digg into a rabbit hole like i did
shit goes deep
and is fascinating

A rabbit hole filled with your vain imaginings. God dont forsake the righteous.

 

[bishop2prophet]

A rabbit hole filled with your vain imaginings. God dont forsake the righteous.

yo man, u need to get dat boondocks swagga
its so
u can be funny
u can be crazy
u can be weird
& u can be serious
AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aint nothing like it

 

[CapitalB]

A rabbit hole filled with your vain imaginings. God dont forsake the righteous.

until u can prove everything in the bible fact, ur following someone eles's "imaginings"
a nigga has a bad dream in a bad place and wakes up and say its hell..
a mu'fucka stands too close to a burnin hemp tree and comes down the mountain and said it was talkin to him..
livin in whales and walkin in furnaces sounds like some imagination shit does it not!?!?

oh but because its from the bible it MUST be true? haha

 

[Carlos Bruise-Her]

until u can prove everything in the bible fact, ur following someone eles's "imaginings"
a nigga has a bad dream in a bad place and wakes up and say its hell..
a mu'fucka stands too close to a burnin hemp tree and comes down the mountain and said it was talkin to him..
livin in whales and walkin in furnaces sounds like some imagination shit does it not!?!?

oh but because its from the bible it MUST be true? haha

I dont delve into speculation of another person's life. All I know is that God showed himself real to me. Thats the only "proof" i need. I dont go off of what someone says God may not have done for them. God real to me.

 

[CapitalB]

I dont delve into speculation of another person's life. All I know is that God showed himself real to me. Thats the only "proof" i need. I dont go off of what someone says God may not have done for them. God real to me.

yeh.. what he look like?? and how long ago was this?!?!

 

[bishop2prophet]

like it or the world is run by bossmen and the reason its run by bossmen is because the evolved to a more concious state
they wanted people to be better
but instead they built their own nation (society)
& religion could be part of their goals but they didnt achieve it
but certain things are too, ya know? to be all a coincidence

in da animal kingdom we hardly have any body hairs (no gross body hairs)
we got long head hair
we got eyebrows
the hair grows to a certain length on our head, now how the fuck does that make sense?... does it do that to anyone else??! the head on our hair knows to grow very long (for wut point) and it stops to a certain point (like the mid back point)
and we have weird emotions like laughter & humour
men with no sense got adams apples, facial hair, we are missing one rib on our chest...
i dont kno?
maybe its me but i have a strong feeling that we were architected by something
not only that but stuff like "ancient aliens in hd" kinda draw out my point further