Questions and Statements about God...

[TX_Made713]

Why does god expect us to honor him with our wealthy then turn around and say its better for a poor man to get into heaven than a rich man. If money has soo much power over man why didnt he prevent it from happening in the first place?

 

[KLICHE]

isn't he just against those that glorify money as the be all and end all and not focus on Him and what he does for us? I took the poor man rich man thing also to come across like those that are humble and those that are all flashy in ya face with materialistic things..

 

[shootemwon]

isn't he just against those that glorify money as the be all and end all and not focus on Him and what he does for us? I took the poor man rich man thing also to come across like those that are humble and those that are all flashy in ya face with materialistic things..

I guess you can analyze it how you see fit, but the famous line is "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven". I personally think anything in those ancient texts could easily be a mistranslation or revision of the original scripture (I also believe the original scripture was just some made up bullshit) but if you believe that quote to be accurate, I don't think it's vague at all. Message is: being rich and being without sin are almost always mutually exclusive.

 

[And Step]

God didn't create money. That is an invention of lesser men.

Wealth in ancient times was anything of perceived value. Livestock, Land, minerals, spices and what not.

God doesn't need money. Money is not bad per se. It has no moral qualities. What is bad is how one uses it or what they do to obtain it. That scripture that you attempted to quote does not decry wealth, just the attitude of those who hoard and obtain it. They place accumulation of wealth over the welfare of man.

 

[The True Flesh]

Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain. Proverbs 30:8-9

A happy medium?

 

[Chike]

Why does god expect us to honor him with our wealthy then turn around and say its better for a poor man to get into heaven than a rich man. If money has soo much power over man why didnt he prevent it from happening in the first place?

"God" could have prevented a lot of shit wrong with this world using simple human logic. But this is why the religious version of god and teachings of the bible is ridiculous.

 

[djparamnesia]

god doesnt exist in the ways that all religions teach about him or her, there may be a godly figure, but he or she did not create money, Man created money and the value of it and the system we live in to this day. weak and scared people cling on to religion for the simple fact of they are scared of death, and you also dont need religion to show u how to live a good life, you have morals and all you need is common sense to live a good life, the thing of well even if it isnt real it makes me happy nd shows me how to live a good life is a load of shit, use your own mind and dont throw away your common sense for some comfort.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Money can be of productive use, it's when it becomes an abuse problems arise.

 

[Chike]

Money can be of productive use, it's when it becomes an abuse problems arise.

No, money creates materialism, any way you look at it. The only thing we truly own are ourselves. All land, plants, and water is for everyone... no just someone.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

No, money creates materialism, any way you look at it. The only thing we truly own are ourselves. All land, plants, and water is for everyone... no just someone.

Really? Money just one day up and decided "fuck this shit I'm creating materialism" ?

 

[And Step]

No. God is just one attribute of the word Allah.

Allah doesn't really mean God, technically.

 

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[alissowack]

There is the impression that when someone believes in God, they automatically take on the miraculous aspects of the deity; that because someone believes in God, they are also looking for that magical unicorn or burning bush or physical evidence of Jesus existence. Maybe there is more to it than that. It is not to say that people shouldn't answer to such things, but the belief in God is made out to be...which one does the most tricks or which one has a better moral standard to follow. Maybe believing in God is just as much a reality as the ups and downs of life today. Who knows?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Well in a way.

To believe in almost every religious version of him yes.

There are so many things in books that are clearly never beens, must be invisibles, and are not there to people who live in realitys.

To believe in God along with wizards, witches, demons, unicorns, etc... is living in a fantasy land.

But sole belief in god imo isn't.

 

[oliverlang]

Well in a way.

To believe in almost every religious version of him yes.

There are so many things in books that are clearly never beens, must be invisibles, and are not there to people who live in realitys.

To believe in God along with wizards, witches, demons, unicorns, etc... is living in a fantasy land.

But sole belief in god imo isn't.

but how can you seperate god from the characterstics that put him in fantasy land and a world of make believe?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

but how can you seperate god from the characterstics that put him in fantasy land and a world of make believe?

Well it's all bullshit. But I don't think believing in only one imaginary thing put them into that world yet.

Believing in multiple things that don't exist does though.

For instance, if I said I believe in ESP, that doesn't put me into the land of make believe.

However if I said "I believe in ESP, and the ESP and I believe in is mind controlled injections that were injected during our sleep by the illuminati so that they could control our thoughts and make us think we could read other people so people who really have ESP can't no longer read their minds and know that they are about to take over the world with the baphomet at their side".

There's also variations of how you perceive what god is. Believing in a god could just be as simple as saying "I believe people are really God because there is nothing that we cannot accomplish given the time"

 

[oliverlang]

Well it's all bullshit. But I don't think believing in only one imaginary thing put them into that world yet.

Believing in multiple things that don't exist does though.

For instance, if I said I believe in ESP, that doesn't put me into the land of make believe.

However if I said "I believe in ESP, and the ESP and I believe in is mind controlled injections that were injected during our sleep by the illuminati so that they could control our thoughts and make us think we could read other people so people who really have ESP can't no longer read their minds and know that they are about to take over the world with the baphomet at their side".

Lmao...i can dig it.

There's also variations of how you perceive what god is. Believing in a god could just be as simple as saying "I believe people are really God because there is nothing that we cannot accomplish given the time"

Yeah, people make this claim often and I always have a problem accepting it. lol. I understand it's semantics, but typically when god (singular) is mentioned it means A singular entity that is the source of everything...if it isn't similar to that...then it's not god and what you believe in is something else. I don't know why people feel the need to try and accommodate this idea of a god, when it's not truly what they believe in...at least not in the literal sense of what god is. By the time they are finished explaining what god means to them, it is no longer god but something else. People will say god to them is the mountains, the rivers, and the trees...that's not god, that's nature; there is no need to mold nature into some abstract imaginary concept. Things just are what they are.

 

[shootemwon]

Next person to use the "God is the way I feel every time I look into the eyes of my daughter " argument is getting their eyeballs removed with a rusty spoon.

 

[And Step]

Man eff Oliver Lang.

No. Just depends on your perception and understanding of the Reality of God.

If you believe he is a spooky, etheral, wisp of smoke, who created a physical world and who arbitrarily assigns favor to big nose Europeans to the exclusion of everybody else, while simultaneously giving you a white dude who looks like Charles Mansons gay brother to worship and guide you into paradise, then yeah you believe in a fantasy and your the new Nas lost. But if you believe God is an creative intelligent force, as bore witness by the creation and the immutable unchanging laws that govern them that has no equal in the mind of man due to his ability to master certain aspects of creation and nature, then you are on the right course.

Unseen doesn't mean invisible.

Eff Oliver Lang.

 

[oliverlang]

Man eff Oliver Lang.

No. Just depends on your perception and understanding of the Reality of God.

If you believe he is a spooky, etheral, wisp of smoke, who created a physical world and who arbitrarily assigns favor to big nose Europeans to the exclusion of everybody else, while simultaneously giving you a white dude who looks like Charles Mansons gay brother, then yeah you believe in a fantasy and your the new Nas lost. But if you believe God is an creative intelligent force, as bore witness by the creation and the immutable unchanging laws that govern them that has no equal in the mind of man due to his ability to master certain aspects of creation and nature, then you are on the right course.

Unseen doesn't mean invisible.

Eff Oliver Lang.

lmao....you don't believe in god...what you believe in is something else.

But seriously, I have a question...you often refer to god as a "him," are you admitting that this force you acknoweldge is a "he?"