playmaker88
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Life is the gift from god.
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BiblicalAtheist
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I'm still trying to figure out exactly beyond a shadow of a doubt what reality is.
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BiblicalAtheist
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Because blood sacrifices appeased us, so naturally they appeased god.
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alissowack
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The GMW;383636 said:That kind of demonstrates my point further. If the success or failure of the sacrifice is in the hands of the priest rather than the sinner, and the sinner really doesn't have to do anything but hand over his finest animal, what's the point of the whole ordeal? Why would he only offer forgiveness to sinners on the condition that an unrelated third party kills another unrelated third party? And think about this... say two people each commit a sin, pick out their finest animals, and give them to two different high priests to be sacrificed. One priest successfully carries out the sacrifice, and the other messes it up. Does that mean forgiveness for the first sinner, and damnation for the second, even though the actions of the sinners themselves were identical?
Just because people were appointed high priests doesn't mean that they were without sin. Even the high priest were subjected to being put to death. The high priest was responsible not only for everyone else, but also his own. If they don't prepare correctly for the sacrifice, they die.
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TX_Made713
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BiblicalAtheist;384910 said:I'm still trying to figure out exactly beyond a shadow of a doubt what reality is.
the best question is, what isnt reality
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BiblicalAtheist
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TX_Made713;385310 said:the best question is, what isnt reality
Indeed. Thats why I still don't know, everything I think it is, it isn't.
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"A Tout le Mond
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Gods an asshole.
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Easy
It's about who's will is being fulfilled
When God commands someone be killed then it called righteous indignation
if you plot to kill someone and carry it out then it murder
when it comes to gays being stoned only a certain people could carry it out (the priest line), not just anyone but things arent set-up as they were back then. That was something only done among/within Israelite culture to other Israelites... doesn't apply to everyone.
It's about who's will is being fulfilled
When God commands someone be killed then it called righteous indignation
if you plot to kill someone and carry it out then it murder
when it comes to gays being stoned only a certain people could carry it out (the priest line), not just anyone but things arent set-up as they were back then. That was something only done among/within Israelite culture to other Israelites... doesn't apply to everyone.
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TX_Made713;384271 said:naw, what your doing is trying to make this obvious contradiction make sense....traveling, goal tendings,etc are completely different calls.
killings however is killings....THOU SHALL NOT MURDER...he says it clear as day. it means what it means...it doesnt say "Thou shall not murder unless certain circumstances occur"...so if god says this, why does he go back and say to murder someone?
and if the translation is off then wouldnt that make the bible flawed hense untrustworthy?
Its a book. And you're mistaken.
If you want the version that IS trustworthy (or as much as it can get) go read the HEBREW version, not the english, cause the english translation is wrong in many aspects.
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TX_Made713;384271 said:naw, what your doing is trying to make this obvious contradiction make sense....traveling, goal tendings,etc are completely different calls.
killings however is killings....THOU SHALL NOT MURDER...he says it clear as day. it means what it means...it doesnt say "Thou shall not murder unless certain circumstances occur"...so if god says this, why does he go back and say to murder someone?
and if the translation is off then wouldnt that make the bible flawed hense untrustworthy?
Not really. It could make it untrustworthy or it could mean it was mistranslated. Your actually proving my point. Killing is not killing. Killing someone for raping and killing your daughter is not the same as killing someone because you don't like them. The Hebrew translations as I pointed out make a difference between certain acts of murder. They are not all the same. The Bible generically labels all killings the same and this is not the case in the Hebrew Translation even in the Commandments. You don't know the Hebrew so your arguing about something you have no knowledge of. Do me a favor, go do a rudimentary study of all the times murder is mentioned in the Bible get a Hebrew to English concordance and see what it actually means. Pay particular attention to Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
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"A Tout le Mond
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And Step;387641 said:Which one?
Any form, since you say people worship the wrong god. The idea of god is bullshit.
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BiblicalAtheist
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The bible also says someone who hateth his brother is also a murderer.
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TX_Made713;370694 said:so why does he go back and say "For if a man sleeps with ________________(you know the scriputres) he shall be put/stoned to death, the blood is on his hands"
and if u dont know what verses im speaking of you know nothing of the bible...
the 10 commandments are THE LAW so why would god go back and contradict these commandsments in the same book?
It says thou shalt die... it never says We should be the ones to put them to death lol The ten commandments are basic laws of physics. You wont die individually for sleeping with another man, but you wont reproduce and your bloodline will die off. Cause and effect... That's the law, not man made BS religious laws.
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[QUOTE="A Tout le Monde";387964]Any form, since you say people worship the wrong god. The idea of god is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I beg your pardon. When did I say that?
God is not bullshit. We all live under some form of God if you understand. Just depends on which one you choose.
I beg your pardon. When did I say that?
God is not bullshit. We all live under some form of God if you understand. Just depends on which one you choose.
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BiblicalAtheist;388575 said:The bible also says someone who hateth his brother is also a murderer.
Hate is sometimes justified, and everyone is not your brother.
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BiblicalAtheist
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And Step;390547 said:Hate is sometimes justified, and everyone is not your brother.
When would hate be justified and why isn't everyone my brother?
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BiblicalAtheist;390752 said:When would hate be justified and why isn't everyone my brother?
Hate is an intense dislike. Hate is justified if it is wickedness. Being a biblical atheist you should know the many places in the Bible where hate is justified.
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BiblicalAtheist
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And Step;392070 said:Hate is an intense dislike. Hate is justified if it is wickedness. Being a biblical atheist you should know the many places in the Bible where hate is justified.
Being a biblical atheist is what helped me to understand no hate is justified.
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