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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845887 said:
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If u go into the universe..u will see stars, solar systems, other planets.. Bla bla bla...something/someone put it there... Plan and simple.. There is a begining... And some random gases didnt just make the sun, the moon.. Earth.. The planets, stars,, etc.....



Nothing "blew up" and some random freak accident turned into a solar system


That's exactly what happened. and you right about theories they're not always concrete, but the thing with science is you can experiment and almost always get the same results. Also, the reason people choose science over religion sometimes is because scientitst have no problem disproving themselves, as a matter of fact they love that shit
 
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go figure...;2845876 said:
i believe in god in the bible but have questions that other believers might be offended by me asking.

N i kinda stray away here n there.

So basically i was never saved.

no, u r supposed 2 ask questions.. There is no other way 2 know the truth...

Im a christian and i stay askin questions.. Cause if i read something and it dont make sense.. I want someone to explain it to me to the point where i cant even utter " well, how come this and that"
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845901 said:
ok.. Dude.. Me and u aint gone come2 no common ground on this.. U cant have the "perfect ingredient" and they werent putthere...

Shyt like that dont mistakely happen

I swear the book I mentioned taught me some shit and I'm just sharing..I never been into science I just am interested in why we here
 
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Both science and religion revolve around ignorance. The difference, however, is that science is dedicated to eradicating ignorance, to uncover the truths of the universe, whereas religion enforces ignorance, as uncovering the truth of the universe would remove all sense of mystery and the supernatural, which is where their gods and deities reside.

If you can seek to fight ignorance, and yet also enjoy the mystery while it lasts, then yes, you can believe in both. Up to a point.
 
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capitalc;2845914 said:
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that's exactly what happened. And you right about theories they're not always concrete, but the thing with science is you can experiment and almost always get the same results. Also, the reason people choose science over religion sometimes is because scientitst have no problem disproving themselves, as a matter of fact they love that shit

experiement means to test and to attempt to find the result u want.. Therefore its still a theory...cause u dont know the outcome

scientist want to be god...just like dude in the wheel chair u was talkin bout earlier.. Since he is so smart, tell him to cure hisself...
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845864 said:
dude.. That does not mean the same thang... We have our time change according if its spring or winter.. So i guessthey did that in the bible too huh?
That's daylight savings time, something people came up with, hundreds of years after the Christian bible was compiled.
PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845867 said:
the sun sets at 8pm, so does that mean its a new day?.. No... Come on fiat.. Do better than that

If the Sun sets at 5:41 AM today and at 5:41 AM tomorrow (which it does, in Baltimore Maryland), then 24 hours have passed in between that time. So if one marks the rising of the Sun as a the beginning of a new day, their days are 24 hours long. Even if they use the Sun's setting as the beginning of a new day, it's still a 24-hour interval.
 
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capitalc;2845929 said:
i swear the book i mentioned taught me some shit and i'm just sharing..i never been into science i just am interested in why we here

if a christian explains to you why god did this and that, you would look at him crazy, cause with our minds, we wouldnt conduct bizzness like that..

For example.. God knew what lucifer was gone do "try to take over heaven".. So im like, why even make him in the 1st place?...

Its just the ration in how we think is different from god and only he can explain it to us to where we wouldnt understand
 
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fiat_money;2845935 said:
that's daylight savings time, something people came up with, hundreds of years after the christian bible was compiled.

If the sun sets at 5:41 am today and at 5:41 am tomorrow (which it does, in baltimore maryland), then 24 hours have passed in between that time. So if one marks the rising of the sun as a the beginning of a new day, their days are 24 hours long. Even if they use the sun's setting as the beginning of a new day, it's still a 24-hour interval.

the sun setting means that its finna turn night time..so how would the sun set at 5 am??..do you mean sun rise?
 
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fiat_money;2845935 said:
that's daylight savings time, something people came up with, hundreds of years after the christian bible was compiled.

If the sun sets at 5:41 am today and at 5:41 am tomorrow (which it does, in baltimore maryland), then 24 hours have passed in between that time. So if one marks the rising of the sun as a the beginning of a new day, their days are 24 hours long. Even if they use the sun's setting as the beginning of a new day, it's still a 24-hour interval.

..and who said in biblical times that it actually took that long between the sun setting on two different days?..

U go to green land and they have like 6months of straight night time... So once again, you can account for there days and howthey where back then
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845887 said:
...something/someone put it there... Plan and simple.. There is a begining... And some random gases didnt just make the sun, the moon.. Earth.. The planets, stars,, etc.....

Nothing "blew up" and some random freak accident turned into a solar system
The bolded is merely your opinion.

And who said "random" gases "make the sun, the moon.. Earth.. The planets, stars,, etc....."?

Or that something "'blew up' and some random freak accident turned into a solar system"?
 
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God and Science are one in the same to me, religion is the problem. I think God is just a way for humans to put a face on the collective consciousness and enegry in the Universe, Science is just the way we go about explaining. God and Science isn't the problem, men and religion are the problem. You have irrational and illogical religious beliefs that governs peoples lives!
 
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metal;2845930 said:
both science and religion revolve around ignorance. The difference, however, is that science is dedicated to eradicating ignorance, to uncover the truths of the universe, whereas religion enforces ignorance, as uncovering the truth of the universe would remove all sense of mystery and the supernatural, which is where their gods and deities reside.

If you can seek to fight ignorance, and yet also enjoy the mystery while it lasts, then yes, you can believe in both. Up to a point.

the thing is.. There are 100000's of things to believe in, which clouds a person's judgement when it comes to christ...

But i wonder, why is it always people tryin to difute the word of god?... Like being a christian is like having a target on ya 4head...

If i said i was a buddist, niggas would be like, "ooh ok cool".. But if u mention jesus.. " how a nigga gone walk on water aint have no jet ski"...

Shyt is amazin
 
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yea there certain things yall prolly read in king james version that you take literally but science gives u the real and i explain the unexplainable
 
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Religion is like high school rumors. If i start a rumor at breakfast about this chick went on a date with the quarter back, by the end of the day you will hear 20 versions of the story and chances are the original story wasn't true to begin with. People remix and add shit, that the truth is so skewed.
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845959 said:
the sun setting means that its finna turn night time..so how would the sun set at 5 am??..do you mean sun rise?
Word, rise.

PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845972 said:
..and who said in biblical times that it actually took that long between the sun setting on two different days?..

U go to green land and they have like 6months of straight night time... So once again, you can account for there days and howthey where back then
Well, the Earth's rotation has been slowing down over time, albeit by a very small amount. So, in biblical days, the rotation would've been slightly faster and the days, slightly shorter. And since we know the Hebrews aren't from Greenland or the areas immediately surrounding the Earth's geographic poles, the shortened/lengthened days those areas experience can be ruled out.
 
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usmarin3;2846012 said:
religion is like high school rumors. If i start a rumor at breakfast about this chick went on a date with the quarter back, by the end of the day you will hear 20 versions of the story and chances are the original story wasn't true to begin with. People remix and add shit, that the truth is so skewed.

that is true...

Thats why i feel that soooo many people denounce christ and his word... U go other religions tryin 2 copy the same story, so then it becomes a debate on who and why should i believe you
 
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;2845984 said:
the thing is.. There are 100000's of things to believe in, which clouds a person's judgement when it comes to christ...

But i wonder, why is it always people tryin to difute the word of god?... Like being a christian is like having a target on ya 4head...

If i said i was a buddist, niggas would be like, "ooh ok cool".. But if u mention jesus.. " how a nigga gone walk on water aint have no jet ski"...

Shyt is amazin

But..In what respect are they complementary to each other?

First, science doesn't require "belief". Science has demonstrably proven itself to be the only reliable method for accurately determining what is true about objective reality.

Second, the concept of gods was originally invented to serve as an explanation for natural phenomena that our primitive ancestors lacked the scientific and technological sophistication to determine the correct, natural answers to. Religion and science are, by definition, polar opposites. The main tenant of Christianity in particular is faith: the concept that "if I have faith in god, all will be taken care of" This is the exact opposite of a scientist's viewpoint, of relentless questioning and looking for factual, real evidence and building a conclusion on that.
 
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fiat_money;2846021 said:
word, rise.

Well, the earth's rotation has been slowing down over time, albeit by a very small amount. So, in biblical days, the rotation would've been slightly faster and the days, slightly shorter. And since we know the hebrews aren't from greenland or the areas immediately surrounding the earth's geographic poles, the shortened/lengthened days those areas experience can be ruled out.

yeah i knowthey aint from greenland but that was just aint example.. And thats why i also say there time had to be not based on the 24/7 scale cause u had folks livign to be 800 years old back then.... I know the bible says the god will shorten the lifespan of man.
 
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