Questions and Statements about God...

[b@squ1@t redux]

what if god was one of us omg

 

[CapitalC]

So.. are u basically saying that ur cool with false religions as long as it calms people nerves?

That wont get them to the truth, it will only cause them to lose salvation in the afterlife

The truth has to be told one way or another

Kinda...I'm on some "whatever floats your boat". I'm a pothead so that might be y...

 

[blackdemo]

I wonder if God believes in people.

We all try. God puts obstacles in front of us to test our strentgh, its all in the game.

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

fucking miracles how do they work

 

[desertrain10]

yes i believe in God and yes i believe in science. even tho literal interpretation of the Bible and other religious texts, clashes with evolution, the big bang theory etc...

i still think its possible to believe in both. imo as a christian the bible is partly an allegorical text. you can call bullshit... but w/e.... in my eyes proof of intelligent design is all around us.

i don't need a scientist to reaffirm my faith in god.

and really Spirituality and God are matters of faith. either you believe or you don't. science will never prove or disprove God because to do either in this life is impossible.

science answers questions about how the world works; religion answers questions about why the world works. science is objective; religion is subjective.

 

[fiat_money]

yea but at the same time if someone jus says " i dont belive in anything, we jus here, fuck god, only science" to me thats cynical, u gotta belive in somethin it doesnt have to be RELIGON but everyone or almost everyone is spiritual, if we werent then ur not a person n they wouldnt have a life, literally. like if u dont beleive in anything how can u stand for anything

Not really, I'm not spiritual and don't believe in anything "supernatural". I see no reason to "have to" believe in something unprovable/unmeasurable/unobservable.

Seems foolish.

"To stand for something foolish, is to fall for something foolish." - fiat_money

 

[CapitalC]

yea but at the same time if someone jus says " i dont belive in anything, we jus here, fuck god, only science" to me thats cynical, u gotta belive in somethin it doesnt have to be RELIGON but everyone or almost everyone is spiritual, if we werent then ur not a person n they wouldnt have a life, literally. like if u dont beleive in anything how can u stand for anything

Well you can explain life...but I see where you going

 

[Lorenzo de Medici]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe science and God are one in the same?

 

[Huruma]

in the social lounge, race and religion ....

but on this topic, I recommend reading '' a case for a creator '' by some journalist I forget his name. he basicly explains how science fed into his atheism, and how science years later brought him back to his faith. You see, the thing scientists hate to admit is that we still have more questions than answers, and alot of the leading ''theories'' being thought in schools as fact have been largely disproven over the years. A true scientific mind has no choice but to recognize the existence of God, of intelligent design, and of his love for us.

Because we don't know what causes X, it must be God? Scientists will readily admit when they don't know something without trying to posit a preferred explanation that isn't supported by empirical evidence. Scientific theories have only been dis-proven because scientists are constantly challenging long-held beliefs when confronted with new evidence, religious beliefs, on the other hand, are canonical and fixed.

If believing in God makes people happy then they should but come up with something other than "science is closed-minded" or "science is like a religion", it's pathetic. I would have no problem with religious beliefs if religion did not cause the unnecessary suffering that it does and if religious people based their moral reasoning on secular values, irrespective of whether or not there's a god, it can't be ethical to sacrifice your son because God demands it.

 

[fiat_money]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe science and God are one in the same?

That would mean you're just calling "science" a different name.

That's like saying, "maybe science and the Boogeyman are one in the same".

I mean, if that's what you want to call it.

 

[CapitalC]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe science and God are one in the same?

Yea, I brought the question up bcause the Big 3 don't really go down that road. And I'm like in 2011, are these antiquated notions still around and relevant? Like we KNOW donosaurs existed, we KNOW cavemen existed, we KNOW the world isn't flat.

 

[Lorenzo de Medici]

That would mean you're just calling "science" a different name.

That's like saying, "maybe science and the Boogeyman are one in the same".

I mean, if that's what you want to call it.

No it doesn't. I think it's very possible to believe in God and science. People are always so hung up on certainty when nothing makes sense, we only understand what we've seen.

Even the collective years of human existence are a sliver of everything that has happened, will happen and is happening.

I was reading about a galaxy that NASA observed, and by our current laws of physics it should not be able to exist, and they can't figure it out.

Although I'm not a believer of God, I'm not gonna sit up and front like Science answers all questions.

I always get shit for saying it, but I think some things simply are. Science simply is. God simply is. If there is a God, I would imagine that he would not object to what we call science. I would imagine that he would be able to create the system that we currently know as our existence. I don't see why the knowledge of science can't coincide with the knowledge of God.

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

ive never drank water

 

[fiat_money]

No it doesn't. I think it's very possible to believe in God and science. People are always so hung up on certainty when nothing makes sense, we only understand what we've seen.

Even the collective years of human existence are a sliver of everything that has happened, will happen and is happening.

I was reading about a galaxy that NASA observed, and by our current laws of physics it should not be able to exist, and they can't figure it out.

Although I'm not a believer of God, I'm not gonna sit up and front like Science answers all questions.

I always get shit for saying it, but I think some things simply are. Science simply is. God simply is. If there is a God, I would imagine that he would not object to what we call science. I would imagine that he would be able to create the system that we currently know as our existence. I don't see why the knowledge of science can't coincide with the knowledge of God.

For the proposal you referenced that, "...maybe science and God are one in the same" to be true, "science" and "God" would need to have the same or similar definitions.

They don't:

So if one calls "science" "God", they are merely "calling 'science' a different name".

 

[CapitalC]

where do people get the notion that you can't believe in science and god. granted you can't believe the bible word for word and believe in science, for example, i don't care what the bible says, the earth is not 6000 years old, and evolution is as real as gravity. with that being said, science tell you were things came from, not who put them there.

even the big bang theory doesn't tell us where all the hot gas came from in the first place. why not believe god did that. i don't think science has an issue with god in the sense of saying there is no god, scientific facts just fly in the face of a lot of the info being propagated by certain religions. having a non-theistic belief in god would cause no such conflict.

You're obviously intelligent, but Stephen Hawking breaks down the whole Big Bang Theory in his newest book, basically the elements for the universe were there they had to always be there because stars and shit need certain elements to even exist, they just reacted and grew very large in a very short time. I guess you're saying God is the creator of Carbon, Helium, Hydrogen

 

[DRO]

where do people get the notion that you can't believe in science and god. granted you can't believe the bible word for word and believe in science, for example, i don't care what the bible says, the earth is not 6000 years old, and evolution is as real as gravity. with that being said, science tell you were things came from, not who put them there.

even the big bang theory doesn't tell us where all the hot gas came from in the first place. why not believe god did that. i don't think science has an issue with god in the sense of saying there is no god, scientific facts just fly in the face of a lot of the info being propagated by certain religions. having a non-theistic belief in god would cause no such conflict.

Where in the bible does it say the earth is 6,000 years old?

And why cant you believe the bible word for word and believe in science?... you just cant believe ALL of science

 

[DRO]

ive never drank water

yes u do.. u drink water every day weather u know it or not

 

[DRO]

You're obviously intelligent, but Stephen Hawking breaks down the whole Big Bang Theory in his newest book, basically the elements for the universe were there they had to always be there because stars and shit need certain elements to even exist, they just reacted and grew very large in a very short time. I guess you're saying God is the creator of Carbon, Helium, Hydrogen

See.. u cant take two nothings and make something....

Gases are "somethings".. if there was no God... no creator, there would be no air, helium, gases..etc

 

[DRO]

Energy can't be created or destroyed. LOL@ you thinking an intelligent higher being made those things possibly.

who told you that enery cant be created or destroyed?....

 

[DRO]

energy can't be created or destroyed. Lol@ you thinking an intelligent higher being made those things possibly.

its fools like you that will give credit to a piece of horse shyt that to give it to god