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achewon87;512521 said:Today at GDC, Riot Games’ Narrative Lead Tom Abernathy and Microsoft Game Studios’ Design Lead Richard Rouse III gave a fascinating 25 minute-long speech entitled “Death to the Three Act-Structure.” Within that presentation, the two industry veterans talked a great deal about game narrative, touching on some of the finest examples in recent memory, from Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and Portal to The Last of Us and Fallout 3.
But they also talked about what extensive research has shown: that plot itself doesn’t resonate with a majority of players. Characters, on the other hand, do.
They point to research conducted by Microsoft, indicating “that players really hardly remember the plots of the games that they play. When they were asked, ‘tell me the plot of your favorite movie,’ they did it at length, and very accurately. When they were asked, ‘tell me the plot of your favorite TV show,’ they did it at length, and very accurately. ‘Tell me the plot of your favorite game.’ Not so much at length, not so accurate.”
The data does indicate, however, that characters are different: “game characters were consistently remembered, but not necessarily for their role in the plot,” the men said, citing Microsoft’s research.
Gameplay events were also remembered as they were tied to plot, according to the data. That’s because, as the pair explained, gamers are using their mind on gameplay, on the action at hand. They can’t expend the mental bandwidth to follow complex plots and stories when they’re always having to do something else. In this way, gaming is unlike film, television, and books. Players are more than mere observers.
Rouse went back to the numbers. “Statistically, most players don’t finish games. We’ve all seen numbers that say something like a third, on average.” (You can read more about this portion of their presentation here.)
“So the question is,” he later continued, “how much does the third act pay off, that you’re putting so much work into, as you’re trying to structure your plot, intricately. How much does that matter, when the fact is that a majority of your players are never even going to see it?”
The conclusion the two men come to is that “in games, plot is highly overrated… Players don’t remember plot. What they do remember, is they remember characters.” Naturally, they also care about their own “experience” playing the game. Thus, these two veterans of the gaming industry recommend that developers and designers focus on the things that are most important – characters, experience – and less on the intricacies of storytelling.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/03/17/gdc-plot-is-highly-overrated-in-games-says-devs
Elrawd;6874713 said:No it isn't. Plot is crucial.
If there was no Princess in Donkey Kong or Super Mario it would make no damn sense. Why the hell am I running up ladders and jumping over barrels towards this big monkey? Just to do it? Without the Princess there is no point, that conflict is crucial to the person's objective.
You know what game sucks? Flappy bird. No plot. No point.
Lamilton3000;6874389 said:i agree with some of what was said I disagree with others. plot is overated when the developers try to make a game seem as sophisticated as a movie such as say the Manchurian candidate. example metal gear solid I haven't played snake eater in years but I can still remember the basic plot every thing revolves around a giant mech machine with nuclear capability. why do I remember this? simple because of the long winded cut scenes I was forced to sit through and the gotdamn 20 minute codec messages from annoying contacts the only ones I really liked was the cute little paramedic and the black dude the weapons expert. did it really take that much storytelling to push the plot of this game. they could have stripped some of those cutscenes down. if they are going to put that much work into it they may as well make a metal gear live action movie. shit like this had my kicking me feet like a frustrated 3 year old whos mother denied him those cookies he wanted siting on the kitchen counter. I was all like "c'mon get to the damn game already!" "i wanna plaaaayyy!"now heres why I disagree with them about plot being unnecessary or whatever they were saying about gamers only regocnize the character and not the plot. I recently been playing uncharted 3 I haven't played in a month I've never played the other 2 but yet I get the concept. a man raised as an orphan who has a partnership with a father figure he's known since age 14 travel the world looking for treasure and ancient artifacts. from about 3 chapters in this game I figured out all I kneed to know. to add to that the game has the right balance of action and story telling to remind you it's a game and only that. same can be said about the latest bioshock. games have had plots since the Atari games although they were simple ergo plumber must save pretty girlfriend form stupid barrel throwing ape atop construction platforms etc. video games have had movie/tv like plots since 2d side scrollers skate or die 2 for example. if games didn't evolve to the level they are now we would still be playing Atari like games only with better graphics or flash mobile games.