Please don't ban people when a warning is what they deserve.

[Dupac]

as far as posters....i suggest votes on a ban.....

5 mod votes = ban....

as far as spambots...that's a no brainier..instant ban.. but i haven't seen many of them since the 500 post rule

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

as far as posters....i suggest votes on a ban.....

5 mod votes = ban....

as far as spambots...that's a no brainier..instant ban.. but i haven't seen many of them since the 500 post rule

That makes no sense most forums only have 5 Mods or less and Bans should be subjective to what was done, not to a popularity contest of the posters politics with the mods. I agree with the warning system being the primary means of banning and that there should be clear defined reasons for a full banning outside of the warning system were Admin determines the guidelines. Anything less then that will result in further Anarchy here we need to have things clearly defined and "ALL MODS" should be held accountable to enforcing the guidelines Admin sets in these matters especially when it comes to banning posters...

 

[Dupac]

makes no sense hunh???

 

[Dupac]

the accountability is keeping people honest.. when a mod from another room is forced to review what's going on in a situation and make a decision on whether or not the poster has committed a bannable offense....it creates a checks and balance system of sorts....

as in the case with over emotional itchy trigger fingered mods like yourself....people who have no investment in a dispute stand a better chance at making an unbiased determination.....

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

makes no sense hunh???

That is correct it makes no sense. The shit between I and thulsa was different then what is being discussed here and you know that but I get it you are playing games and instead of arguing the facts want to take us off on a tangent over your petty issues with me nice way of showing your hurt feelings and proving one of my many points...

as far as posters....i suggest votes on a ban.....

5 mod votes = ban....

as far as spambots...that's a no brainier..instant ban.. but i haven't seen many of them since the 500 post rule

That makes no sense most forums only have 5 Mods or less and Bans should be subjective to what was done, not to a popularity contest of the posters politics with the mods. I agree with the warning system being the primary means of banning and that there should be clear defined reasons for a full banning outside of the warning system were Admin determines the guidelines. Anything less then that will result in further Anarchy here we need to have things clearly defined and "ALL MODS" should be held accountable to enforcing the guidelines Admin sets in these matters especially when it comes to banning posters...

again clear defined admin guidlines held and enforced unilaterally by all mods is what is needed to prevent Banning problems in the future and the warning system is a perfect tool to handle unrully posters...

 

[Dupac]

naw bruh i'm much more direct than that, if i was coming at you i woulda called you "sodom the mized" or something funny like that...

but i just straight up explained why we need a checks and balances system around here when it comes to banning posters....

because banning has been proven on multiple occasions as something that's regularly done in the heat of the moment...

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

naw bruh i'm much more direct than that, if i was coming at you i woulda called you "sodom the mized" or something funny like that...

but i just straight up explained why we need a checks and balances system around here when it comes to banning posters....

because banning has been proven on multiple occasions as something that's regularly done in the heat of the moment...

Checks and Balance yes, a popularity contest Hell No. Checks and balance would be clear Admin provided guidlines for what constitutes a Ban and what things deserve warnings. Again this new warning system provides for the temp Bans that in most cases are all that is needed for posters. But Admin have made certain posters Persona Non Grata and said clap on site and you have made a point of instead of doing so trying to play e-buddies with them instead of following that request, while other Mods have expressed there fear of being hacked by them so they left them alone. So we all as Mods should have clear defined criteria and enforce it without the emotions of rash actions or blindeyes...

 

[Dupac]

the reality of the situation is that you don't want to be questioned on who you ban......

this has nothing to do with a popularity contest, cuz personally speaking, i'd vote to have any poster on this site banned if they were in direct violation..

but if i reviewed the situation, and i felt like the reason for the ban was more personal than anything, i'd vote against it....

the only reason i propose the voting system is because i don't agree with banning from personal vendettas... there's tons of posters i don't like, but i don't go flaggin them and warning them and banning them every time i have a disagreement...

 

[Dupac]

you have a false sense of superiority....you really need to get over yourself....

mods working together and voting on things is the best possible solution in this scenario, as evident by sion's quick approval to the suggestion.....

 

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[Soloman_The_Wise]

the reality of the situation is that you don't want to be questioned on who you ban......

this has nothing to do with a popularity contest, cuz personally speaking, i'd vote to have any poster on this site banned if they were in direct violation..

but if i reviewed the situation, and i felt like the reason for the ban was more personal than anything, i'd vote against it....

the only reason i propose the voting system is because i don't agree with banning from personal vendettas... there's tons of posters i don't like, but i don't go flaggin them and warning them and banning them every time i have a disagreement...

Get your reading comprehension up...

The reality is the only ones deciding rules on who should be banned indefintely is admin and we as Mods should be enforcing that plain and simple their site we are giving some of our freetime to help this site we Love(or at least claim to)running smooth. We as MOds should not choose to enforce rules based on popularity but rather on what we see again period. The new system makes that possible with warnigns and temp bans period. You want to make it a freeforall with rules only being enforced based on the popularity or Mod e-buddies of the poster rather then what Admin asks us to do. If a poster is in Violation of these rules personally effecting the Mod involved or not it should be applied and the only one that should decide when it is done should be admin. Clear cut rules and Admin Review is all that is needed on Permenant Bans all other bans should be Temps through the Warning system. I get why you would not like that to happen as you will not beable to get brownie points With Hack Quack Pack and their donkey groupies...

 

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[Soloman_The_Wise]

This is all over the place. Fact is, we just got told by higher to use more discretion, instead you are in here trying to bend Shit to fit your personal preference on how you envision the site.

It takes 5 people to mod the reason. Think about that for a second.

You need your hand held plain and simple where as the rest of us were given more responsibility.

But you niggas wanna set trip.

Or make this about Ducky and them, when in fact this about you trying to punish somebody cause they got ahold of your FB, (a completely seperate entity from the ic mind you).

Just stop, shits pathetic.

Quit trying to kick knowledge to niggas that don't wanna hear it you ain't gon turn the reason into some hiphop 101 college course so quit trying, the masses are resisting, or is that to Damn hard for you two to comprehend?

You know damn well your spin game is failing at this point, the masses are chopping it up the Donkey off topic nonsense is not running the board kats are building shit is flourishing and other then you Donkey Kats most are loving it. Only ones trying to make it into something other then the basics is yall we just help tend this site we should be working cohesively to support it and honor what each forum is purposed for. I am not trying make it about anything other then doing what we are supposed to regardless of a persons popularity, you kats are basically saying fuck what Jay and Greg say that shit needs to be voted on rather then let them set the rules we enforce. Plain and simple use the warning system and leave the permanent banning decisions to Admin and the rules they make about it. NOw you kats can take your Popularity contest application of rules shit and keep it in the Donkey where it belongs...

 

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[Soloman_The_Wise]

No spin game, just stripping away all the bullshit and calling it what it is.

We were told to do something by admin. Instead of saying "roger" and moving out, you are instead still trying to tell your side of the story.

Nobody asked. So why you still trying to justify?

At some point in time you are going to have to address the fact that so many people have the same complaints against you two. And that sir you can not blame on donkey.

lol @ you trying to say this is all donkey's fault...

donkey members aint modifying reason posters post or threads....

dont know what you talmbout....

since when did du soulja become admin? I cosigned toddo and keep saying just that let admin decide maybe you did not read what I said or again you are being willfully ignorant of what I say to spin further your agenda Not sure which it is at this point. As to this you 2 I get that you and Haul are a e-couple and all I have no such counter part on here I have not been altering or deleting anyones posts I have moved, merged or split threads as needed that is about it, so keep it real before trying to lay false charges get your facts straight do not make a fool of yourself like your girl did while acting as JG's mouthpiece with their frame fail...

 

[5th Letter]

a warning seem reasonable in my eyes. i think under really crazy circumstances should we try to use bans.

i also agree with du about using a vote system if/when bans are needed.

 

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[Stew]

lmao

Im game for the 5 point warning system and voting on Bans. The thing about voting is we arent able to get ahold of all mods because of how some of you have your names. We cant use the @ function to reach asap as you could mine by typing @icecoldstew. I would instantly get an email saying that someone mentioned me. It would be sort of difficult to get 5 mods in a timely manner cause Im sure most of the mods dont visit this forum often and alot of you have spaces between your name. Is there anyway to fix that @Toddo ?

 

[Toddo]

Working on getting the @ working for strange names.

It wasn't my intention to stir shit up here. I just wanted to say that if you ban someone thinking it's okay for them to create another account then that person might be locked out of the IC without you knowing it. That's it.

I'm seeing some people in the spam queue that are trying to get back into the site. If these people are poisonous to the community and you all really want them banned then that's totally fine. It's not my job. I just know the way you are used to operating is to ban someone and let them back in under a different name. That's no longer an easy thing to do.

Also keep in mind, that I'm not exactly an admin here. Think of me as more of a janitor than the principal. I've got keys to all the rooms, but I'm not going to go around disciplining anyone. You've got an equal voice with me, but your good about it because you know I do honest work. That's the metaphor, although maybe I'm going too far because I lived next door to my grade school janitor growing up. Great guy.

@ThatDamnJay has the final word.