Petition to Electoral College: Make Hillary President on 12/19 has 4.5 Million signatures

[Already Home_17]

hilary already conceded so would it matter?

 

[5th Letter]

Now the electoral college is a problem?

 

[playmaker88]

Not gonna happen.. but the streets will be occupied for 4 years.. and i hope protests are taken to the inauguration

 

[Mr.LV]

Donald Trump won fair and square,Democrats need new leadership to retool get their base out to vote in the mid term election in 2018 and presidential election 2020.

 

[Go figure]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

 

[NoCompetition]

I saw that Obama apparently signed an executive order involving reviewing the election.and recounting there were apparently issues. There are not always things to "save" people from their own moves. But we'll see

 

[SolemnSauce]

Hilary supporters need to do like snoop and hold dat L

 

[ChillaDaKilla]

how bout bringing back the voting rights act

 

[JokerzWyld]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

 

[7figz]

The FBI interfered with an election.

Foreign-based hackers hacked one-party and provided leaked emails to the media to influence the election.

The electorate is against the popular vote.

... and people should just move on ?

BTW you think if Trump lost, him and his supporters would just be moving on ? Talmbout a MF who had lawyers in court trying to change shit up until the very day of the election. Not to mention the confederate flag brigades and other voter intimidation shit going on.

 

[The_Jackal]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

But you understand why especially IN America the EC Is needed. From the fact that up to 25% of voters would have there vote be considered irrelevant(particular in rural areas) politicians would only focus on high populated urban areas.

 

[Go figure]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

 

[Go figure]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

But you understand why especially IN America the EC Is needed. From the fact that up to 25% of voters would have there vote be considered irrelevant(particular in rural areas) politicians would only focus on high populated urban areas.

Ok so this more what I was trying to gain perspective on props

 

[The_Jackal]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

 

[Go figure]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

So whos got a rebuttal for this?

 

[5th Letter]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

Not even close, but here's a clue, "large cities" didn't exist when the electoral college was started. States were still called colonies at the time.

 

[The_Jackal]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

Not even close, but here's a clue, "large cities" didn't exist when the electoral college was started. States were still called colonies at the time.

I don't get exactly what you are trying to say since you honestly haven't made any point or took any stance. By the 1787 convention the colonies were revered to as states and the same thought process was in play, even out votes for states that weren't as heavily populated.

 

[Stiff]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

Not even close, but here's a clue, "large cities" didn't exist when the electoral college was started. States were still called colonies at the time.

If I'm not mistaken the formation of the electoral college had something to do with a compromise between non-slave holding northern states which were more populous and slave holding rural states which were more sparse..the slave holding states were worried that they would get bullied by northern states if it was simply a direct popular vote that determined the president

 

[Fosheezy]

fucc no

U think you're better than Eric Benet?
https://twitter.com/ebenet/status/797268095664553984

*smh reaction*

 

[5th Letter]

What are peoples' arguments against getting rid of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote? Not arguing here just genuinely curious to hear the reasoning.

And i think people were tired of 'business as usual' in politics which is why the candidate who was promising drastic change, no matter how terrible a lot of it sounds to half the country, ended up winning. Another reason why I'm assuming Bernie might've fared better in this election with a higher voter turnout in his favor.

But this election felt like the blatant racist vs the undercover pandering racist. Seems like only people who've won under Dems were gays, no other 'minority' groups.

To answer your question, the process of the electoral college is undemocratic. In a democracy people vote and the law/person with the higher vote wins. It is that simple.

The electoral process is a republican system designed for representatives to decide for us, even if it's unpopular. In a political climate like this one where politics as usual don't fly, the people want a purer and simpler process.

We can argue the downfalls or merits of a democracy vs. a republic, but either way it's nonsensical to have such a process used in a nation where the politicians refer to the method of governance as a democracy.

Thanks and while I understand your explanation what I dont understand is why someone would be against doing away with the electoral college. Not that I would agree or disagree, I just simply never heard an explanation in favor of the electoral college.

Its to insure that every has an equal vote that a few larger cites don't get to dominate and dictate the policy of this nation.

Here is the easiest example I can give. Just throw out numbers lets say NY has a population of 50 million. Of those 50 million 30 million live in highly urban populated areas, most likely share similar views while dealing with similar issues.

Then you have Idaho or Washington, which is lowely populated with a few million spread throughout the whole state.

You can easily see how problems would arise with whole states of this nation could be ignored. That would overall harm the democratic process.

Edit

To sum it up its to PREVENT the tyranny of the majority.

Not even close, but here's a clue, "large cities" didn't exist when the electoral college was started. States were still called colonies at the time.

If I'm not mistaken the formation of the electoral college had something to do with a compromise between non-slave holding northern states which were more populous and slave holding rural states which were more sparse..the slave holding states were worried that they would get bullied by northern states if it was simply a direct popular vote that determined the president

That's not it either. The answer is a lot more simpler and something I've argued about on here recently.