Pete Rock defends ole heads in music and explains why newer artist music don’t get no respect ...

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king hassan;c-10106391 said:
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$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

I hate to break it to you but Tupac was just one guy with his own personal opinion (who happened to be in his feelings about De La Soul at the time since he thought they were shitting on him).

De La just did a world tour and released a grammy nominated album.

konceptjones;c-10105439 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

Bruh, De La was still droppin heat in 2000.

Art_Official_Intelligence_Mosaic_Thump.jpg


AOI: Mosaic Thump debuted at #9 on Billboard in 2000.


"Oooh" was a hit song. Shit stayed in radio and video rotation back then.

Fuck what Pack was talmbout.


king hassan;c-10105473 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

And they still around, where Tupac at? Shit De La here this month and the show is sold out

5 Grand;c-10105532 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

Its unbelievable how 2Pac stans can turn a Pete Rock thread into a 2Pac thread.

B...b...but if Pac lived he would have started Death Row East with Eric B and they would have taken over the East coast.

This confirm yall East Coast Bias... West Coast, Down South, MidWest Niggas... Did not give AF about De La Soul in 1996...

Do or Die, OutKast, Master P, and 2Pac had more impact albums in 96 than De la Soul...Po Pimp, Atliens, Ice Cream Man, All Eyes on Me, & Makaveli had stronger impact on the streets than De La Soul Stakes Is High Album in 96... New York Niggas like Pete Rock stay hating... Typical Crab Ass East Coast Nigga Mentality


I'm going to take a wild guess and by your screen name you were born in 1985, which means you were 11 in 1996, so this post means you don't know what you talking about


Aye, don't group us 85ers with that fuckin idiot.

 
Revolver Ocelot;c-10106604 said:
king hassan;c-10106391 said:
Matike85;c-10105744 said:
SneakDZA;c-10105438 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

I hate to break it to you but Tupac was just one guy with his own personal opinion (who happened to be in his feelings about De La Soul at the time since he thought they were shitting on him).

De La just did a world tour and released a grammy nominated album.

konceptjones;c-10105439 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

Bruh, De La was still droppin heat in 2000.

Art_Official_Intelligence_Mosaic_Thump.jpg


AOI: Mosaic Thump debuted at #9 on Billboard in 2000.


"Oooh" was a hit song. Shit stayed in radio and video rotation back then.

Fuck what Pack was talmbout.


king hassan;c-10105473 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

And they still around, where Tupac at? Shit De La here this month and the show is sold out

5 Grand;c-10105532 said:
Matike85;c-10105414 said:
konceptjones;c-10105345 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105313 said:
king hassan;c-10105243 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10105108 said:
king hassan;c-10104957 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

You can say the same about these new niggas too

These young niggas don't be bothering nobody!

Yes they do, come on bro you know better

Who ? Brah they don't be wanting no problems. All they want is lean pills and bitches. Like you don't think niggas in the 80s hated the 90s and early 2000s . That didn't deter them from doing them!

Nah b, a lot of them cats from the 80's was still droppin heat in the 90's. RunDMC, BDP/KRS-ONE, EPMD, Special Ed, MC Lyte, Rakim, and a grip of other MC's were still bringing it back in the 90's.

But 2Pac said To De La Soul on Against all odd ... " Niggas Looking Like Larry Holmes Old, flabby, and sick then try playa hate on my shit" ...

De La Soul was considered an old heads by 1996 and and came out in 1989

aicf3wd2qqc4.gif

Its unbelievable how 2Pac stans can turn a Pete Rock thread into a 2Pac thread.

B...b...but if Pac lived he would have started Death Row East with Eric B and they would have taken over the East coast.

This confirm yall East Coast Bias... West Coast, Down South, MidWest Niggas... Did not give AF about De La Soul in 1996...

Do or Die, OutKast, Master P, and 2Pac had more impact albums in 96 than De la Soul...Po Pimp, Atliens, Ice Cream Man, All Eyes on Me, & Makaveli had stronger impact on the streets than De La Soul Stakes Is High Album in 96... New York Niggas like Pete Rock stay hating... Typical Crab Ass East Coast Nigga Mentality


I'm going to take a wild guess and by your screen name you were born in 1985, which means you were 11 in 1996, so this post means you don't know what you talking about


Aye, don't group us 85ers with that fuckin idiot.


LOL my bad bro, actually my nephew was born in 84 and he knows all music as well, daps to you
 
I got older heads in my family that's 5 Grand's age. All them niggas used to say is;

"That snoop froggy dogg, that wu tang shit, that fuck the police shit, that aint hip hop. Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, Big Daddy Kane, that was music. These new niggas 2pac and Biggie and them. That aint music."

Its a cycle. Let the kids have their day. Like @Lefty_ said, there's a lot off good shit still being dropped.
 
It's always the New York niggas wit this elitist ass attitude too. I guess since they been puttin out bullshit since the south took the crown they still goin back to that forefather bullshit. The thing about an art, it dont have to stay the same, and you don't have to like the changes. If you like Michelangelo, them paintings are there forever. Fuck it look like if somebody like picasso(I know he dead) was like Yea...fuck that nigga rothko, he don't paint like me. It's corny, let them lil niggas paint. you painted, and we love your art. Now we got new artists.

Bob Ross don't owe Andy Warhol shit fam.
 
blackgod813;c-10104847 said:
SneakDZA;c-10104834 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?

To make a recent hit

Didn't his album flop though?
 
SneakDZA;c-10106384 said:
freethewave;c-10106345 said:
What do people mean when they say young rappers don't respect the game or the pioneers? Like what do you want them to do?

Don't be trash on the mic is pretty much the only request. It's really not too much to ask.

Depends who u asking, it can be a tall task to some these new lil whatever
 
Lefty_;c-10106659 said:
It's always the New York niggas wit this elitist ass attitude too. I guess since they been puttin out bullshit since the south took the crown they still goin back to that forefather bullshit. The thing about an art, it dont have to stay the same, and you don't have to like the changes. If you like Michelangelo, them paintings are there forever. Fuck it look like if somebody like picasso(I know he dead) was like Yea...fuck that nigga rothko, he don't paint like me. It's corny, let them lil niggas paint. you painted, and we love your art. Now we got new artists.

Bob Ross don't owe Andy Warhol shit fam.

First agriculture, now fine arts. You are certainly a well rounded individual
 
Lefty_;c-10106659 said:
It's always the New York niggas wit this elitist ass attitude too. I guess since they been puttin out bullshit since the south took the crown they still goin back to that forefather bullshit. The thing about an art, it dont have to stay the same, and you don't have to like the changes. If you like Michelangelo, them paintings are there forever. Fuck it look like if somebody like picasso(I know he dead) was like Yea...fuck that nigga rothko, he don't paint like me. It's corny, let them lil niggas paint. you painted, and we love your art. Now we got new artists.

Bob Ross don't owe Andy Warhol shit fam.

So west coast artists don't feel the same?
 
king hassan;c-10106729 said:
Lefty_;c-10106659 said:
It's always the New York niggas wit this elitist ass attitude too. I guess since they been puttin out bullshit since the south took the crown they still goin back to that forefather bullshit. The thing about an art, it dont have to stay the same, and you don't have to like the changes. If you like Michelangelo, them paintings are there forever. Fuck it look like if somebody like picasso(I know he dead) was like Yea...fuck that nigga rothko, he don't paint like me. It's corny, let them lil niggas paint. you painted, and we love your art. Now we got new artists.

Bob Ross don't owe Andy Warhol shit fam.

So west coast artists don't feel the same?

The sentiment is nowhere near as intense. You know it. Them NY old heads be mad as fuck. Lord Jamar and Joe Budden been yellin at young niggas for 5 years straight. Publicly.
 
I like what the D.O.C. said on sway in the morning. He said he interjects his lyrical style into his new artists and kind of guides them a little without smothering their own styles so to speak. There needs to be respect from from both sides. We need to start from there.
 
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Cain;c-10107308 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;c-10107048 said:

Actually this is what 21 Savage posted. TI's response was the opposite of this.

nah he reposted what 21 posted, it didn't show the whole thing, this is what tip said, he was agreeing but sayin both sides have to respeck each other.

"troubleman31@21savage lil bro speaking real truth tho. The fact of the matter is... There's been good,bad, great,mediocre artists,&otherwise in EVERY generation .... Even ours"(2000s) , The Founding era (80s) & the golden era of the 90s. They're not the only generation to make "user music" either. Can anyone remember a Lil album called "The Chronic"? Or hit Recs like "Sippin on some Sizzurp".... Regardless of the subject matter...This is THEY TIME. Couldn't nobody tell us how to run ours,or make us sound how they thought we should... Live ya life & do ya stuff young'n. Just bare with us,&try to understand .... y'all niggaz kinda different & take some getting used to. As the elders gotta understand they're SUCCESS JUSTIFIES the CHANGE. The Numbers DONT LIE!!!

Can't hate on that.
 
ThaNubianGod;c-10107407 said:
If anything, old heads are too kind. This new generation is 95% garbage.

Exactly. I love when the previous generations call this garbage what it is.

I hate that BS they are doing being categorized as Hip Hop myself.

 
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Niggas is soft. Old heads used to tell you about yourself and most times it was in a harsh tone. But instead of shutting the fuck up and listening niggas wanna get defensive.
 

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