Pete Rock defends ole heads in music and explains why newer artist music don’t get no respect ...

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KnowReasonForPeace;c-10103884 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;c-10103864 said:
If the youth goin wrong at least try to guide b4 u scold

They not listening though. Either they too doped up on drugs or simply do not care about anything.

If they not listening u just gotta let em learn for themselves, they may come around like "damn oh tried to tell me"

unless they dissing u it is what it is

But to act like "doped up on drugs" is specific to the new school is hilarious and completely wrong
 
N this can't be about caring about the craft Imo, whether Pete like the music is another story but whether u like waka or not compared to when he first came out there's no way in hell u can say he don't care about his music lol

People act like every thing they don't like is folks not caring about their craft
 
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Peezy_Jenkins;c-10104238 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;c-10103884 said:
Peezy_Jenkins;c-10103864 said:
If the youth goin wrong at least try to guide b4 u scold

They not listening though. Either they too doped up on drugs or simply do not care about anything.

If they not listening u just gotta let em learn for themselves, they may come around like "damn oh tried to tell me"

unless they dissing u it is what it is

But to act like "doped up on drugs" is specific to the new school is hilarious and completely wrong

Firstly i didnt equate being doped up on drugs as a new school issue. Thats how you took it when there was no reason for you to think so. Thats just what it is now. Young niggas and bitches making being a junkie cool and whats in right now. And letting them learn for themselves is not viable cause you know what happens? They blame the older generation for not guiding them, so what to do? Keep trying to help or let these fuck niggas die out?
 
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Wasn't directed strictly at you, that's just what I got from Pete rocks comment.

N like I said of they not listening let em learn for themselves.
 
natural born sinners;c-10103871 said:
The classic old nigga rant. We get about two of these big ones a year. They usually have alot of truths, however can be picked apart. I'll assume he is talking about "mumble" rap. In which case there is alot of truths to what he is saying, as I find alot of it intolerable, however maybe this is REAL rap to these new niggas. This IS what they WANT to do and have no desire to do it how the "old heads" did it. Maybe they not concerned w rock n roll induction right now n just wanna make music n get they mom's out the hood. I'm sure alot of "old heads" when they started was not concerned w the rock n roll hall of fame either. Some of that mumble rap sound good in the club and has is place.

fuck mumble rap
 
These mumble fucks won't let the real emcees breathe in some fresh air. Pete rock is undauntedly one of hip hop's finest. I read 'Don't Sweat The Technique' by Brian Coleman where Pete Rock was highly elated as one of the best producers to ever do it. This nigga has more than 90,000 records piled up in crates. Now, What do you call that? A mad sound digger. This codeine syrup knuckle headed rappers need to stay in they fucking lanes. Much respect due to the Soul brother #1.
 
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
 
hey! new niggas...........

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$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?
 
people seem to think bitterness eradicates clarity and a great point.. if you are invested in something bitterness is a potential symptom... 100% agree
 
SneakDZA;c-10104834 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?

To make a recent hit
 
SneakDZA;c-10104834 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?

Pete Rock can learn how to #Culture

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blackgod813;c-10104847 said:
SneakDZA;c-10104834 said:
$tayRichROLLIN;c-10104794 said:
my question to Pete would be instead of talking shit why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant

lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?

To make a recent hit

I'm pretty sure if given the choice even yachty's retard ass would rather have a healthy stack of timeless classics over an already forgotten recent hit.
 
That young vs old shit is wack. Let these young niggas rock.

They're living in 2 different times, and honestly, there are different motivations within the music.

They rapped because of the art, the new generation is motivated by the money more than the art. Everytime a nigga can't get a job, he starts rapping now.

There are true artists out there still, many at the top, or close to the top of the billboard charts. Big Sean is dope, Cole is dope, Krit is dope, I can go on and on...Kendrick, and many others. But the ones that get the finger pointed at em are the ones that treat the music like it's oil country, tryin to strike and get a hit.

Black hands are not the ones pressing the buttons as to who gets promoted, and radio play, and vevo channels and whatnot, so maybe Mr Rock should point his finger in a different direction.

If you're turning on lil yachty or chief keef or a nigga like that, and you're looking for substance, you should write a rant to yourself.

Big Krit just made a double album that held weight, Kendrick made an album that held weight. Lots of underground artists made albums that talked up on some real shit, but he chooses to chase one hit wonders off his lawn.

Not to mention, i'm in my mid 30s so I consider myself an OG at this point in my life, I be watchin some award shows like who the fuck is that... I'm washed. I would never use my position to talk about how fucked up a whole generation is, that's lazy, and some bitter shit, which comes with regrets, or jealousy. I try to wrap my arms around the ones who need guidance and will accept a couple gems. The ones who don't cool, don't. A lot of youngins want to just go their own way, and I'm not mad because I was young too, and I wanted to hold my nuts to show the old heads ahead of me that I could too.

Don't nobody owe pete rock shit. He had his time, he did his thing. They set a standard, but as time changes, so do standards, and motivations. They rappin to get out they situation, not to get 5 mics homie. You can still get traction with substance too. Use that engery to promote that which you think is dope and get off Waka Flocka's dick.
 
Peezy_Jenkins;c-10103782 said:
Gotta respect the old heads, but some of em bitter as fuck. Basic Respect go both ways, if u don't like the music that's a whole nother thing

Actually, no.

You have to earn your elders respect. You can't walk up to your parents, aunts/uncles, or grand parents on some "Respect me off jump" shit 'cause they'll laugh a you and prolly slap the white off your teeth for that. You earn respect and that's precisely what these new rappers haven't done. They don't show and prove like we used to have to do back in the day. They haven't paid their dues at all and want respect from those that already walked in their shoes.

"Now you want respect, aye yo you a fool/everybody wanna rap but they ain't paid dues" - W.C. as Low Profile


One of the biggest differences between rap and other forms of music is the reverence by the current artists for those that came before them. Pop, rock, jazz, country artists are quick to tell you who their influences were going way back into the early days of music. Shit, electronic pioneers Kraftwerk said they were trying to emulate James Brown's funk when they started out. Not these new rappers. Ask one of these new cats if they've ever listened to a Kurtis Blow or Kool Moe Dee song and he'll tell you "naw mah niguh, ioon lissennunuhdem old niguhs." They don't respect the history of hip hop and what it means to music so the older cats in it have no reason to respect them.
 
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Lefty_;c-10104897 said:
Don't nobody owe pete rock shit. He had his time, he did his thing. They set a standard, but as time changes, so do standards, and motivations. They rappin to get out they situation, not to get 5 mics homie. You can still get traction with substance too. Use that engery to promote that which you think is dope and get off Waka Flocka's dick.

Nigga you think rappers in the the 80's and 90's wasn't rapping to get out of their situations too?

Don't get fucked up, they wanted the money and fame also, they just had more artistic integrity than a lot of today's artist.

 
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