People in Texas want creationism in textbooks

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I still cannot believe for the life of me, why people are trying to put creationism in science. It does not belong there, but with religions and philosophy.

science was born out of philosophy that is why they have always been so close. The various creationist theories are just that theory. And there is no reason why they shpuld not be taught.

But they seperated out of reason and neccessity, that's going through the greek route, technically it came from spirituality but I can see why you would say philosophy as well.

At the same time though, science needed to be seperate entity and it's own thing because they are no longer the same and we have come a long way with the way we view those subjects. Science is no longer philosophy they are two different subjects and very distinct from one another.

that depends on the science you are talking about.

As long as it takes the scientific method and it gains the results it claimed as factual and can be done over and over proving the same results and only than it can remain part of science not philosophy. If it cannot gain the same results over and over again, than it belongs in junk, if it cannot be tested than it can belong in philosophy.
 
Science is NOT the evidence nor is it something created from the investigation. It IS the investigation. ONE CANNOT ATTEMPT TO PROVE FAITH BASED EDICTS OR "TRUTHS" BECAUSE THAT WOULD GO AGAINST THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAITH OR BELIEF. If I am told that the Earth is 5,000 years old by the Bible, that's it. There's no investigation. On the other hand, Based on evidence(circumstantial, mathematic or hard) I can theorize about the age of the earth. That doesn't make it science though. What makes it science is that one takes steps based on the hypothesis to prove or disprove based on more detailed finding. You simply cannot do this if something is supposed to be based on Faith, so why would I put kids further behind the rest of the world by making them learn something that isn't science in a science class.

That is not to discredit faith, but that's to say its just not science. Science doesn't know everything, but it damn well teaches the student how to investigate and experiment.
 

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