People in Texas want creationism in textbooks

[BoldChild]

"On the other hand, 't possible an all powerful being that has apparently always existed, snapped his fingers, and created all this shit, or aliens did it."

done.

 

[zombie]

Good nothing is wrong with teaching different ideas.

I could violate you sensibilities right now but I won't. I'm gonna stay on topic.

There IS something wrong with teaching non science in a science book. There's no scientific basis for religion and thus it has no place on a science class, textbook or discussion.

You want to teach creationism? Fine, take them to church. But schools aren't a place to coddle ignorance.

creationism is a theory, a group of theories it is not a religion. We can teach any theory we want because neither can be 100% proved without doubt. There are creationist who believe in evolution and scientist who believe in God so I really don't see why you can't teach both.

Deep down you do. You just don't want to admit it.

Picture the teacher saying the Earth is around 4.6 Billion years old. Then turning the page in her book and teaching that same group of kids that the earth is no older than 10k years old?

So, since you are all for teaching different theories lets include this one as well :

Xenu, an intergalactic ruler, was about to be removed from power, and he wasn’t having any of it. Instead, he got rid of the population that was planning to take him out by paralyzing and taking them to Earth (good old Teegeeack at the time). There, he loaded them into volcanoes, destroying them with hydrogen bombs.

Bodies gone, he gathered the thetans – remember, those are the souls – and implanted misleading data, such as all religions, into their memories.

The thetans began to cluster together and inhabit bodies of aliens that survived the blast (how they survived a hydrogen bomb, one can only guess). Voila! You have the predecessors to modern humans, and these thetans continue to move from body to body and life to life accumulating more misleading data along the way.

once again creationism is not a religion and does not have to get into the particulars of any religion. So alot of what you wrote is irrelevant

science as it relates to the creation of the earth and life is mostly theory and should be taught as such.

There is no scientific basis to support creationism, intelligent design, or however you want to dress it up.

You also seemed to he confused over the scientific meaning of "theory".

Evolution is a fact, the Big Bang is vastly more scientific than intelligent design as there is no scientific basis for such an ideal.

many/ most creationist have no problem with evolution I am confused about nothing no theory scientific or otherwise rises to the level of absolute fact. a scientific theory is a backed up explanation nothing more.

 

[zombie]

Quantum physics have one thing backing them and that's the math portion. If your math is not adding up, it don't make no fucking sense and a scientific theory has to have math backing it no matter what it is and it needs several laws. Smh, read about the scientific method and theories and you will understand why this doesn't hold up very well and why Darwin's theory is holding up despite the mad tinkerings over the past century, but the initial hypothesis adds up.

Also, not all creation stories are the same and the bible is the same book that says the earth was before the sun and stars, now come on. That theory falls flat on his face, right there.

bringing up the Bible is irrelevant to the discussion. mathematical constructs don't necessarily have to be real. in other words using math you can prove that something can exist not that it actually does

 

[zombie]

creationism is not limited to theist understandings of the universe.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

I think there should be a class based on critical thinking where all possible therories for the genesis of humans are taught and the students have to decide which they choose to believe. And are graded based on there dialogue, participation, and ability to think critically and provide supporting evidence for the decision they make in a final paper.

 

[Ajackson17]

Math is pure and everything is invovled in mathematical formulas, 2+2 = 5 is not real, now if someone tried this than their math would be false but if it's 2+2=4 than it does exist and we can verify and produce results. I have four sticks 1+1+1+1= 4 is the correct answer what is being manipulated?

 

[Ajackson17]

Now theology, philosphy and etc should have their own class, but creationism does not belong in science unless they have strong factual information to support that theory in which they do not.

 

[zombie]

Math is pure and everything is invovled in mathematical formulas, 2+2 = 5 is not real, now if someone tried this than their math would be false but if it's 2+2=4 than it does exist and we can verify and produce results. I have four sticks 1+1+1+1= 4 is the correct answer what is being manipulated?

that is baby math the advanced math used in quantum theory is

 

[zombie]

theoretical

 

[zombie]

Now theology, philosphy and etc should have their own class, but creationism does not belong in science unless they have strong factual information to support that theory in which they do not.

advanced sciences run on theory not absolute fact.

 

[Trollio]

nerds

 

[Ajackson17]

@_dub_ realizes his cognitive limits and cannot post on topic. It's okay man.

 

[jono]

I think there should be a class based on critical thinking where all possible therories for the genesis of humans are taught and the students have to decide which they choose to believe. And are graded based on there dialogue, participation, and ability to think critically and provide supporting evidence for the decision they make in a final paper.

Meh. College...okay but not grade schools. Makes no sense to continue perpetuating ignorance in a house of discovery and analytics.

Creationism is based solely on faith and there's no place for teaching "belief". Go to church for that. It's already disproven in science fields.

 

[Trollio]

stop typing my name sissy

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

I think there should be a class based on critical thinking where all possible therories for the genesis of humans are taught and the students have to decide which they choose to believe. And are graded based on there dialogue, participation, and ability to think critically and provide supporting evidence for the decision they make in a final paper.

Meh. College...okay but not grade schools. Makes no sense to continue perpetuating ignorance in a house of discovery and analytics.

Creationism is based solely on faith and there's no place for teaching "belief". Go to church for that. It's already disproven in science fields.

thats your opinion dawg...

Hence the purpose of the class. U were able to come to that conclusion based on what u have been taught in the past. Instead of beating ideas and theories into the heads of children, allow them to learn more than one idea or concept and come to the conclusion on there own.

They will develop skills not usually honed until college thus being.better prepared.

 

[zombie]

the scientific community is biased ben stein made a documentary about this years ago.

 

[Ajackson17]

Now theology, philosphy and etc should have their own class, but creationism does not belong in science unless they have strong factual information to support that theory in which they do not.

advanced sciences run on theory not absolute fact.

Advance sciences must have mandated factual information to back their claims up, it could be 50% right, but the sole idea must be factual backed up and the fine details not so much until they are tested so many times and all the information is computed.

Once upon a time fractals were thought to be junk math and now we know they are sole building blocks of creation and organizing on how shapes look and which give life to 3rd dimensional look.

 

[Ajackson17]

If we go through this a critical thinking class must be in place, because we need people to think clearly before entering philosphies, religion, debates, and etc when it comes to this. If people do not have those skills, they will be really confused on these issues.

 

[S2J]

I want marvel comic to be taught in school too

Imagine watching the avengers for religious studies

We broke down the Matrix in a religous class i took outside of HS. Probly made me the clarvoyant savant I am today.

 

[jono]

I think there should be a class based on critical thinking where all possible therories for the genesis of humans are taught and the students have to decide which they choose to believe. And are graded based on there dialogue, participation, and ability to think critically and provide supporting evidence for the decision they make in a final paper.

Meh. College...okay but not grade schools. Makes no sense to continue perpetuating ignorance in a house of discovery and analytics.

Creationism is based solely on faith and there's no place for teaching "belief". Go to church for that. It's already disproven in science fields.

thats your opinion dawg...

Hence the purpose of the class. U were able to come to that conclusion based on what u have been taught in the past. Instead of beating ideas and theories into the heads of children, allow them to learn more than one idea or concept and come to the conclusion on there own.

They will develop skills not usually honed until college thus being.better prepared.

Creationism being disproven isn't my opinion it's true. Church is for creationism, not a classroom.

Subjective beliefs have no place in an objective environment.