Peedi Crakk Recalls Jay Z Removing Cam'Ron's "One For Peedi Crakk" Verse: "Delete That Sh!t"

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_God_;9351287 said:
Why does the fact dame gets into a argument with a person automatically makes him a bad person

You're missing the point. He wanted to live in his alter-ego Champagne Dame 24/7. Spending money thinking that the clothing line and album sales would keep them in the black.

He's like a NBA agent who pockets money from the player outside of his regular paycheck.
 
Dame went to bat for Jay shielding him while he took the heat from them white folk. Only for Jay to sneak deal with those same white folk to sell.
 
blackrain;9350963 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;9347878 said:
Not alotof people wanted to work with dame afterwards.. He was burning bridges

I've said it before, but if you want a foreshadowing of what led to the end of Rocafella, and Dame's relationships with alot of people, watch Backstage and look at the argument he got into w/ Kevin Liles.

What about thst argument? Dame was totally correct in that argument which stemmed from Lyles giving niggas Def Jam merch on a Roc A Fella tour...at the time Roc A Fella wasnt a subsidiary of Def Jam...Def Jam was simply an investor who wanted to attach itself to the brand culturally once it saw it was popping.....

You gotta see it from Dame s perspective...early on all those niggas who are attached to Jay s nuts now passed on him....Lyor, Russell ( who called him wack and said he couldn't fuck w Das Efx), Rifkind, Lyles and etc....that's y it took him 8 years to get any traction.....now u see a nigga who once called ur mans wack wanting to get close to yall cuz ur popping...and u did it on ur own....u gonna son him every chance u get especially when he line steps....that was Dame s perspective imo
 
Aint dame the same nigga that nobody cant seem to do buisness with no more......

even jim shitted on dame, the same jim u dipset cam stans love......

beans told you niggaz in interviews that he caught dame hands in the cookie jar......

At that certain point in jay career in 2004, enough was enough.......

dame too big headed at that point , jay probably couldnt even talk to that

clown.......jay just decided to just part ways from the entire shit.......

Instead of bulding the roc up to be even more proftable, jay probably

saw the future of the shit coming to the end because of the moves dame was making......

he was no longer the same dame no more, it was obvious.........

nigga out here giving cam top positions in the roc and he just got there......

nigga out here wasting away money trying to invest in everything not

only he had armadele and movies, which is cool, but nigga had prokeds

sneakers that smell like chocolate, state property clothing line which was seperate

from rocawear, state property cartoons, a rocafella mp3 player called rocbox,

and in the same breath was signing everybody and there mother to the label

even though, he had problems, releasing niggaz albums on time......bleek

made album and camron purple haze album was pushed back constantly....

freeway and young gunz eventually dropped solo albums, but peedi crakk

and oschino and sparks never dropped...... but yet with all of this

he signs m.o.p and dirt mcgirt, aka odb.....

he so call signs or was about to sign ,twista , joe buddens and grafth

still got acts who was on the label who muthafuckaz aint give a fuck about

rell, young steff, samantha ronson.........

at the end of the day dame was doing too much, and thats why nobody fucks with

him now, down to producers like just blaze , rappers like currency actors like kevin hart or

even so call harlem brethrens like jim jones......the same jim jones who was riding hard

for dame behalf on shitting on hov back in the day.........

Dame stay doing too much
 
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aneed123;9351495 said:
Dame went to bat for Jay shielding him while he took the heat from them white folk. Only for Jay to sneak deal with those same white folk to sell.

Jay made that nigga dame rich..........

so what does jay owe dame than..........

what did niggaz came in the buisness to do, to make money......

Dame went to bat for jay

And jay made dame millions........

Now what

Niggaz hate for jay is disgusting.........reason alot of you niggaz hate jay is because he done

surpassed alot of u niggaz favorite rappers.........

 
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Elzo69Renaissance;9351511 said:
blackrain;9350963 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;9347878 said:
Not alotof people wanted to work with dame afterwards.. He was burning bridges

I've said it before, but if you want a foreshadowing of what led to the end of Rocafella, and Dame's relationships with alot of people, watch Backstage and look at the argument he got into w/ Kevin Liles.

You gotta see it from Dame s perspective...early on all those niggas who are attached to Jay s nuts now passed on him....Lyor, Russell ( who called him wack and said he couldn't fuck w Das Efx), Rifkind, Lyles and etc....that's y it took him 8 years to get any traction.....now u see a nigga who once called ur mans wack wanting to get close to yall cuz ur popping...and u did it on ur own....u gonna son him every chance u get especially when he line steps....that was Dame s perspective imo

that's where he fucked up. you can't have that attitude in a business where everybody knows everybody and the major labels are all connected in one way or another. they doubted you and you proved them wrong, let your successes speak for you
 
knightryder;9352624 said:
aneed123;9351495 said:
Dame went to bat for Jay shielding him while he took the heat from them white folk. Only for Jay to sneak deal with those same white folk to sell.

Jay made that nigga dame rich..........

so what does jay owe dame than..........

what did niggaz came in the buisness to do, to make money......

Dame went to bat for jay

And jay made dame millions........

Now what

Niggaz hate for jay is disgusting.........reason alot of you niggaz hate jay is because he done

surpassed alot of u niggaz favorite rappers.........

He hasn't passed pac so ur wrong..
 
aneed123;9347042 said:
SheerExcellence;9347025 said:
aneed123;9346988 said:
SheerExcellence;9346974 said:
Preach2Teach;9346939 said:
Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.

that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).

people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.

all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"

they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.

so these niggas deserve alimony?

if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"

and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.

but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.

oh and dame's son selling cookies.

gtfoh

not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.

Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.

well we all do it then

if you using it that broadly

the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.

we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc

we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.

we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.

I don't befriend people with a false agenda then make money off them and leave. I'm a loyal person too a fault cuz I cherish realness family and friendship. Jay sees people as an opportunity to get to a goal. 2 different mindsets. Also to me money isn't everything.

This seems like simple business to me

You cherish broke nigga shit

Cuz these same muhfuckas you cherishing will break bad on yo ass if the right opportunity comes along

We grown and got bills to pay, kids to feed

You niggas sound like girls
 
5 Grand;9351282 said:
natural born sinners;9351066 said:
5 Grand;9347841 said:
dalyricalbandit;9347693 said:
Funny shit is Jay was the Boss he could do as he pleased and he did.

As much as i liked the dips Let a nigga or his squad come into your house and start actin like he runs shit and can do as he pleases and tell me how u gonna act.

Cosign. He put Cam in his place.

But that still doesn't explain why Cam and Dame couldn't put a label together after the Roc dissolved. I thought they were homies.

selling the ROC was a jayz power move..he was like "oh yall wanna run shit n act like yall don't need my input, ok fuck it do ur own thing I'm out..oh yes n I'm selling the company"

From what I remember, Dame got $20 mil after the sale, which is pretty good considering he didn't say one rhyme or produce any beats. With $20 mil he could have started his own label. He has so much knowledge, a struggling artist would be lucky to have Dame as a manager.

Fuck that $20 mil..Dame knew selling Rocafella was not gonna be good business for him. The rocafella name was relevant n the foundation of all the other shit they was selling..Dame made enemies w alot industry people tryinta keep the ROC going..he knew he was done

 
Elzo69Renaissance;9351511 said:
blackrain;9350963 said:
Built 4 cuban linx;9347878 said:
Not alotof people wanted to work with dame afterwards.. He was burning bridges

I've said it before, but if you want a foreshadowing of what led to the end of Rocafella, and Dame's relationships with alot of people, watch Backstage and look at the argument he got into w/ Kevin Liles.

What about thst argument? Dame was totally correct in that argument which stemmed from Lyles giving niggas Def Jam merch on a Roc A Fella tour...at the time Roc A Fella wasnt a subsidiary of Def Jam...Def Jam was simply an investor who wanted to attach itself to the brand culturally once it saw it was popping.....

You gotta see it from Dame s perspective...early on all those niggas who are attached to Jay s nuts now passed on him....Lyor, Russell ( who called him wack and said he couldn't fuck w Das Efx), Rifkind, Lyles and etc....that's y it took him 8 years to get any traction.....now u see a nigga who once called ur mans wack wanting to get close to yall cuz ur popping...and u did it on ur own....u gonna son him every chance u get especially when he line steps....that was Dame s perspective imo

I'm not talking about what they were arguing about, Im talking about how Dame handled it
 
BackInWhite;9353838 said:
aneed123;9347042 said:
SheerExcellence;9347025 said:
aneed123;9346988 said:
SheerExcellence;9346974 said:
Preach2Teach;9346939 said:
Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.

that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).

people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.

all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"

they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.

so these niggas deserve alimony?

if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"

and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.

but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.

oh and dame's son selling cookies.

gtfoh

not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.

Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.

well we all do it then

if you using it that broadly

the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.

we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc

we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.

we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.

I don't befriend people with a false agenda then make money off them and leave. I'm a loyal person too a fault cuz I cherish realness family and friendship. Jay sees people as an opportunity to get to a goal. 2 different mindsets. Also to me money isn't everything.

This seems like simple business to me

You cherish broke nigga shit

Cuz these same muhfuckas you cherishing will break bad on yo ass if the right opportunity comes along

We grown and got bills to pay, kids to feed

You niggas sound like girls

I ain't broke... I cherish bring a real person. U seem shady.... it is what it is
 
Them bruh's were mad petty over there man. How's it go: First comes the pride, then the fall. All of em damn near broke over ego bitchy bullshit that more than likely coulda been squashed with a heart to heart convo. Now all they got are jilted memories and will never be a staple in hip hop again. Stories are all the same from all them guys man. Broken records.
 
Shit was not as great as it seems w/ the ROC. Oschino & Peedi were on Drink Champs the other day & according to Vazquez Beans was fucking SP outta money just like Dame was fucking Beans outta dough.
 
bull6599;9370776 said:
Shit was not as great as it seems w/ the ROC. Oschino & Peedi were on Drink Champs the other day & according to Vazquez Beans was fucking SP outta money just like Dame was fucking Beans outta dough.

naw....
 

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