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aneed123;9347042 said:SheerExcellence;9347025 said:aneed123;9346988 said:SheerExcellence;9346974 said:Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).
people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.
all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"
they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.
so these niggas deserve alimony?
if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"
and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.
but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.
oh and dame's son selling cookies.
gtfoh
not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.
Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.
well we all do it then
if you using it that broadly
the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.
we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc
we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.
we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.
I don't befriend people with a false agenda then make money off them and leave. I'm a loyal person too a fault cuz I cherish realness family and friendship. Jay sees people as an opportunity to get to a goal. 2 different mindsets. Also to me money isn't everything.
SheerExcellence;9347061 said:aneed123;9347042 said:SheerExcellence;9347025 said:aneed123;9346988 said:SheerExcellence;9346974 said:Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).
people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.
all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"
they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.
so these niggas deserve alimony?
if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"
and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.
but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.
oh and dame's son selling cookies.
gtfoh
not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.
Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.
well we all do it then
if you using it that broadly
the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.
we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc
we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.
we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.
I don't befriend people with a false agenda then make money off them and leave. I'm a loyal person too a fault cuz I cherish realness family and friendship. Jay sees people as an opportunity to get to a goal. 2 different mindsets. Also to me money isn't everything.
i feel you and those are nice traits to have.
but you don't know what jay saw dame as
you do know how he sees ty,emory, and memphis as
among others
but choose to focus on dame, who everyone he comes into contact with from currensy to beanie to landlords to jim jones say he cheated them out of money and actually used a "false agenda made money offa them"
the sees people as an opportunity to get a goal is exactly what dame dash does.
CashmoneyDux;9347047 said:SheerExcellence;9347025 said:aneed123;9346988 said:SheerExcellence;9346974 said:Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).
people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.
all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"
they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.
so these niggas deserve alimony?
if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"
and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.
but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.
oh and dame's son selling cookies.
gtfoh
not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.
Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.
well we all do it then
if you using it that broadly
the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.
we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc
we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.
we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.
so we arguing semantics now? This was pedantic as fuck
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Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
aneed123;9343718 said:Jay been a bitch ass nigga
murdap;9343942 said:Hov single handedly destroyed The Roc but jigga warriors dont like the truth. Kareem Biggs and Dame did all the work carrying jayz nursery rhymes to stardom.
Juelz Santana>>>>>camel
5 Grand;9347398 said:Seems like Jay was the smartest one out of the whole crew.
Out of everybody (Jaz O, Dame, Biggs, Foxy, etc.) Jay's the only one that maximized profits. Everybody else had their foot in the door but for whatever reason didn't capitalize the way Jay did.
SheerExcellence;9347133 said:CashmoneyDux;9347047 said:SheerExcellence;9347025 said:aneed123;9346988 said:SheerExcellence;9346974 said:Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).
people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.
all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"
they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.
so these niggas deserve alimony?
if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"
and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.
but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.
oh and dame's son selling cookies.
gtfoh
not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.
Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.
well we all do it then
if you using it that broadly
the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.
we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc
we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.
we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.
so we arguing semantics now? This was pedantic as fuck
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i didn't realize i was arguing with you? i was having a discussion with @aneed123 we stated our points and we ended up understanding where the other was coming from and i gave him a goat.
so what you talking about?
CashmoneyDux;9347406 said:SheerExcellence;9347133 said:CashmoneyDux;9347047 said:SheerExcellence;9347025 said:aneed123;9346988 said:SheerExcellence;9346974 said:Preach2Teach;9346939 said:Jay fooled everybody into thinking he was a smooth hustler pimp back in the late 90's until the early 2000's, but the more time unravels the more we see the bitch in Jay.
that's an interesting way to look at it. another way to look at it is, all these dudes whether dame dash or calvin klein, or camron and jim (back then, not now), and a whole host of other people. talk about how jay did them wrong. you'd think he was suge knighting people the way they talk about him, when from my perspective it just seems like he cut business ties with them, if he owed them anything at all (he owed cam'ron and dipset absolutely nothing).
people leave businesses and companies all the time. if i start a business with and we become successful and i leave it to do my own thing, and i get even more rich, then somehow i faulted my first business partner? This ain't a marriage. i don't see any of these people saying jay stole from them or wronged them. i don't see people saying he was don kinging them and stealing, or raping people on contracts. i haven't heard any of them say that.
all they say is "he ignored me" or "he didn't say goodbye" or "we sold drugs on the streets and i was his friend then and now he rich but im broke so he owes me"
they the ones sounds like they "bitch" to me. i'm just saying from my understanding of the situation thats what i see. when a marriage breaks up and the chick wants half, yall all say she don't deserve it. well in this situation with dame, dame got his half. that is documented.
so these niggas deserve alimony?
if a chick was still complaining after getting half you would be clowning her saying why this bitch deserve shit? yet when dame does it you say "see i knew jay was a snake ass bitch!"
and again all these guys claim they made jay and they did this and that and they are the real brains behind the operation, well if that is the case, then make another jay.
but i dont see them doing much of anything except whining.
oh and dame's son selling cookies.
gtfoh
not to mention this shit was over a decade ago and they still whining. even a scorned chick would be past it at this point.
Aka he is a user. Just call it what it is. A lot if folk do it but don't sugar coat it.
well we all do it then
if you using it that broadly
the phone you on right now was made for cheap from damn near slave labor in thiland my nigga. them dudes getting paid 50 cents an hour to make that phone that you typing to me on and we living high on the hog, chatting about rap music, while they aint getting their just due.
we using the fuck out of them. same as we do for our nikes, clothes, cars, etc
we are literally using them for labor to buy expensive goods and they can't even get water.
we users. we all users, dont sugar coat it.
so we arguing semantics now? This was pedantic as fuck
![]()
i didn't realize i was arguing with you? i was having a discussion with @aneed123 we stated our points and we ended up understanding where the other was coming from and i gave him a goat.
so what you talking about?
It's a message board. I can respond to whoever I want.
Who on here hurt you?
ghostdog56;9345143 said:So we gonna act like cams verse wasn't wack?
dalyricalbandit;9347693 said:Funny shit is Jay was the Boss he could do as he pleased and he did.
As much as i liked the dips Let a nigga or his squad come into your house and start actin like he runs shit and can do as he pleases and tell me how u gonna act.
dalyricalbandit;9347693 said:Funny shit is Jay was the Boss he could do as he pleased and he did.
As much as i liked the dips Let a nigga or his squad come into your house and start actin like he runs shit and can do as he pleases and tell me how u gonna act.