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Undefeatable;5993963 said:Zomie, why are you always so angry?
Anyway, I'm starting to think that you're a fraud, that you're more interested in promoting your particular ideal of manhood than in what promotes interests of the race. For the record, I'm far more courageous than you'll ever be. But the point I'm making now is that there is a place for our gay brother and sisters (and anyone else who do not meet your gender ideals) in the black struggle.
This thread is not about me. Yes, I have stated that I haven't done well with black women, even though I'm one of those dudes who did everything right. But I'm more concerned to a) counter the false messages some BW tell to the media about us, and b) start a conversation about what we (black men and women) need to do make black relationships better.
But even if I were a "lame," and this thread were about me, given your expressed commitments you should still support it. With your constant talk about the evils of IR marriage, I would presume that you think that even black lames (including highly educated ones like myself; and yes, I am more educated than you are) should not marry out.
I'm starting to think that conversing with you is an unproductive exercise (and Lord knows I have better things to do). You seem like just an angry person.
Undefeatable;5993963 said:Zomie, why are you always so angry?
Anyway, I'm starting to think that you're a fraud, that you're more interested in promoting your particular ideal of manhood than in what promotes interests of the race. For the record, I'm far more courageous than you'll ever be. But the point I'm making now is that there is a place for our gay brother and sisters (and anyone else who do not meet your gender ideals) in the black struggle.
This thread is not about me. Yes, I have stated that I haven't done well with black women, even though I'm one of those dudes who did everything right. But I'm more concerned to a) counter the false messages some BW tell to the media about us, and b) start a conversation about what we (black men and women) need to do make black relationships better.
But even if I were a "lame," and this thread were about me, given your expressed commitments you should still support it. With your constant talk about the evils of IR marriage, I would presume that you think that even black lames (including highly educated ones like myself; and yes, I am more educated than you are) should not marry out.
I'm starting to think that conversing with you is an unproductive exercise (and Lord knows I have better things to do). You seem like just an angry person.
obnoxiouslyfresh;5994113 said:I just had a conversation with my friend the other day about this. He's young, single, childless, and successful by anyone's standard. He's approaching his mid 30s and thinks about settling down but basically just always finds himself guarded against the motives of most black women who he feels are merely looking for a sponsor. So now he's just immersed in whoredom for however long![]()
obnoxiouslyfresh;5994113 said:I just had a conversation with my friend the other day about this. He's young, single, childless, and successful by anyone's standard. He's approaching his mid 30s and thinks about settling down but basically just always finds himself guarded against the motives of most black women who he feels are merely looking for a sponsor. So now he's just immersed in whoredom for however long![]()
obnoxiouslyfresh;5994113 said:I just had a conversation with my friend the other day about this. He's young, single, childless, and successful by anyone's standard. He's approaching his mid 30s and thinks about settling down but basically just always finds himself guarded against the motives of most black women who he feels are merely looking for a sponsor. So now he's just immersed in whoredom for however long![]()
Undefeatable;498553 said:This is by far the most well thought-out, comprehensive and articulate youtube posting I have seen on the subject. And it doesn't even have 3000 views. Give it a listen. The video is posted below. It is long, but well worth the listen.
Some background. Black women are constantly telling the media that there aren't many good successful black men, and that this is why so many of them are unmarried. (Here is an example of what I'm talking about.) The problem with this is that if true, then good reasonably successful black men should be fighting off women, since they should be in high demand. But that's not what I see; I see brothers with advanced degrees getting dismissed without a second thought. So the truth is little more complicated than what BW are saying. The thing is that you rarely hear the men's perspective. The media simply takes what BW say at face value. (One reason for this, of course, is that there are actually a lot of brothers who are high school drop outs, in jail, etc.)
So this is where the video makes its contribution. A guy in Atlanta called into a radio show complaining about how he, a "good black man," is having such a hard time finding a good black women, and how he sees BW rejecting good brothers left and right. The host then devotes the show to explaining 12 reasons why good black men are single.
I found this write-up about the episode.
Recently, a fan of the Victory Unlimited Show who happened to be a single, African American guy living in Atlanta, Georgia contacted the show. When he called, he was on a specific mission all his own. He didn’t ask a question about dating. He didn’t ask a question about relationships. He didn’t even ask a question about life strategy. No. This guy called to ask just one question. One question that was so heartfelt and so loaded with frustration and confusion that we just had to address it.
What was his question?
“Why is it so hard for good black men to find good black women?”
Here was a guy who thought that he had everything together—-thought that he’d been doing all the right things. He considered himself a “good man”. He identified himself as a man looking for an exclusive relationship with the right woman. He expressed great concern over the way that the news media always tells just one side of the story of black relationships——the women’s. “No one gives a damn about how hard black men have it out here too.” he said.
Well, for this man, and for all the single, good black men out there still searching for someone special to compliment their lives——-this show is for you.
To the contrary, this show is not a show for guys out there that are actually guilty of the many “Relationship War Crimes” that so many black men are accused of. No, this show is for all the single, good black men that get unfairly lumped in the same category, wrongly dishonorably discharged, or hit by unfriendly fire in the ongoing war to have a winning relationship. This show is also for the many good, black women who have always wanted to know why so many of their sons, brothers, and guy friends have so much trouble finding the right women for them.
Today, we’ll go inside the War Room and do an in-depth analysis on the “Top Twelve Reasons Why So Many Good Black Men Are Still Single”. After listening to this show, you’ll have a far better understanding of each of the scenarios listed below that good black men encounter everyday in their search for good black women:
1. The Celebrity Propaganda Scenario
2. The Knee Jerk Stereotyping Scenario
3. The Nonessential Appraisal Scenario
4. The Racial Familiarity Breeds Contempt Scenario
5. The Busted Brain Trust Scenario
6. The Mercenary Scenario
7. The Gender Group Think Scenario
8. The Circle of Confusion Scenario
9. The Mythical Man Scenario
10. The Right Man at the Wrong Time Scenario
11. The Lack of Depth Perception Scenario
12. The YouTube Scenario
For many years now, the vast majority of the problems experienced by African Americans in the dating world have been reported primarily from the female perspective. This has got to change. Before we can even begin to go on a mission to rescue black relationships, it’s important that we take into account not just the women’s perspective, but the men’s as well.
Otherwise, we will never advance from monologue to dialogue——–which is where our only hope for future success lies.
Much respect and success to you all.
http://victoryunlimitedshow.com/gen...-why-so-many-good-black-men-are-still-single/
DreadlockRasta;5994125 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;5994113 said:I just had a conversation with my friend the other day about this. He's young, single, childless, and successful by anyone's standard. He's approaching his mid 30s and thinks about settling down but basically just always finds himself guarded against the motives of most black women who he feels are merely looking for a sponsor. So now he's just immersed in whoredom for however long![]()
He's one of many i'm happy to say
Plap Star;5993838 said:money.power.respect.;5993817 said:Plap Star;5993792 said:money.power.respect.;5993737 said:1. women allow other women to sabotage their relationships a.k.a. 'the girlfriend test'. these women are too weak tomake their own decisions so they allow their no man having friend to makei it for them.
2. women aren't fully aware of the struggle black men have to go through and tore don't respect them as a whole based on stereotypes.
3. women have a false idea of what a man is and try to project this idea on men they meet.
4. women want to emulate the women they see on tv.
i think y'all get the point. nothing he said was any different from what you guys have already said.
that kinda shit dont pop up in real nigga conversations
on the IC it does.
the video ACTUALLY holds women accountable for their horrible decision making skills, lack of a father figure, AND disregard/disrespect of black men.
it's just long af. i quit listening when candy crush got boring..
only the niggas wit no hoes say that on the ic
ajackson and posters like him