OTTB Debate Topic 2: Is there too much choreography in modern wrestling?

[DOPEdweebz]

People never seen RVD vs Lynn or Eddie vs Rey Mysterio. There's more to wrestling than WWE style

 

[jono]

https://www.twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/736876715633303552/photo/1

 

[jono]

Vince needs to get her on the phone if that's the case

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Vince needs to get her on the phone if that's the case

If you don't like that shit stop promoting it then

 

[jono]

Vince needs to get her on the phone if that's the case

If you don't like that shit stop promoting it then

You mean like you continually comment on things you hate?

 

[jono]

Back on subject. This is Vader's series of tweets on the subject. He tweeted extensively about it but these best explain his position...
https://www.twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/736800547156545541
https://www.twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/736681988208238592
https://www.twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/736399571983552512
https://www.twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/736399571983552512

 

[Already Home_17]

didn't see the whole match. I assume that gif was the opening sequence?

it looked pretty cool. it was entertaining. wrestling is a form of entertainment. the crowd was entertained. mission accomplished

 

[jono]

William Regal's opinion:

“I watched the match and was shocked. You need to start doing real stuff like people from my era like kip ups,flying head scissors,cart wheels and criss crosses. Get a grip! When I started the job in ’83 a lot of the older fellas used to say that Marc Rocco and Marty Jones (who were the real pioneers of the CW style) had killed the business because they did to much. Although they may not admit it anymore, most of the heavyweights in Europe thought the brilliant lightweight and middleweight wrestlers were bad for the job because their style was “not believable enough”.. Every country I worked in before I came to the US had different styles and ways of doing things.As long as there’s effort then it’s right.If the people paying you are happy and you get reactions then make your stuff as good as it can be with what skills you have.May not be for everyone but that’s ok.In the match I saw two fellas who looked like fighters having an excellent,hard competed match in a different style.Win win!

Read more athttp://www.wrestlezone.com/news/713...-on-ricochetospreay-match#3Wc4HdLV6vSexgh3.99

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

it all comes down to balance in my mind

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

that sequence looked like a hyped up version of what super crazy and tajiri used to do, a stand off at the beginning of the duel, im fine with that

but as the match goes on, an athletic showcase can be great, but athletic moves with meaning behind them with in the story would only make things better in most cases imo, balance.

 

[Already Home_17]

which reminds me

the revival in NXT has one of the dopest shirts

 

[jono]

which reminds me

the revival in NXT has one of the dopest shirts

That tag is harsh. I fucks with them.

 

[BangEm_Bart]

I think image and choreography go hand in hand.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Vince needs to get her on the phone if that's the case

If you don't like that shit stop promoting it then

You mean like you continually comment on things you hate?

I don't make posts about them like "here's this cool thing I'm gonna post about so I can complain about it that nobody would know about, if I didn't post about in the first place" type of posts.

We different.

It's different to take a jab and criticize than what you're doing here (even tho I am kinda trolling you at this point because I get what you're saying) or to be a fanboy who constantly treats a product like an ex girlfriend that cheats on them constantly but never leaves them.

I'm just saying this is one of the most viral things going on outside of WWE non Bullef club and as usual you're gonna shit on them.

You're the WWE fan that watches everything outside of WWE and shits on them minus Adam Cole, but hey I'm exaggerating (a bit).

 

[DOPEdweebz]

At the end of the day modern wrestling? The whole shit IS choreographed ONE.

TWO what Ricochet and Ospreay been doing is no different than what Low Ki, EZ Money, Teddy Hart and others were doing in 2001-2002. (Let's not even talk about RVD, Kid Cash, WCW luchadores, Hayabusa, AJ Styles, early TNA XDivision stars)

Modern wrestling? "Modern" wrestling to most Americans is Monday Night Raw and a WWE PPV once and sometimes twice a month usually on a Sunday night.

This is foreign/indies style and niggas gotta watch the whole clip which is posted in one of them stickies.

Can't judge an entire "story" by a looking at an Instagram/twitter "chapter".

ECW Heatwave 1998


TNA Triple Ladder Match 2002


Dynamite Kid early to mid 80s (career ended in 1986)


Shit is hardly modern or the most used style, but for some reason gets noticed more. I wonder why.

 

[TonyDubbz]

Shit is entertaining to me

shrugs

 

[BangEm_Bart]

Certain wrestlers fit it and some don't. I couldn't see Stone cold doing back flips around the ring but Michaels and etc could do it. This generation is mostly lightweights so it makes sense and seeing some of these big guys pull it off is simply amazing but it fits their character. Dean Ambrose would be much better if he was more acrobatic.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I think Tajiri was the first dude who I seen do those backflips against the ropes or at least the first one I associate with.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

meh i really dont like it

 

[Dupac]

it has to be a nice blend.....