One Has To Go. Raekwon,Nas,Snoop Dogg, Dr Dre, or Jay Z "The one with the weakest DEBUT ALBUM"

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All these albums are classics today that's what matters not who was the hottest the day his album came out
 
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The question was who debut album was the weakest. Nobody asked ya'll when the last time the Mets won a World Series and how nobody was fuckin with Jay in 1976.
 
I VOTED FOR THE CHRONIC DUE TO STRUGGLE BARS...

Never let me slip, cause if I slip then I'm slipping

NO SHIT DRE...
 
GetoBoy;9170555 said:
whoseworldisthis;9170473 said:
When Big L and Jay Z did that freestyle together... Jay Z wasn't even the hottest cat on that freestyle

I question if a lot of you were really around like that when RD came out...

it is kind of like the revisionist Tupac history... I remember when he was Shock G.'s backup dancer...LOL

What does what happened 20 years ago gotta do with today??? You'll doing everything but judging the actual quality and longevity of the albums....RD gotta go becuz Jay wasn't the hottest nigga out??? Quality of albums is all opinions but niggas using everything but that to make a decision which I don't understand

Listen... Reasonable Doubt is a good album... I liked it then, I like it now

But I really question someone who thinks that Jay has a better debut album than the Purple Tape...

Do half of you cats even know what the Purple Tape is or how it shut down the streets when it came out?
 
whoseworldisthis;9170673 said:
GetoBoy;9170555 said:
whoseworldisthis;9170473 said:
When Big L and Jay Z did that freestyle together... Jay Z wasn't even the hottest cat on that freestyle

I question if a lot of you were really around like that when RD came out...

it is kind of like the revisionist Tupac history... I remember when he was Shock G.'s backup dancer...LOL

What does what happened 20 years ago gotta do with today??? You'll doing everything but judging the actual quality and longevity of the albums....RD gotta go becuz Jay wasn't the hottest nigga out??? Quality of albums is all opinions but niggas using everything but that to make a decision which I don't understand

Listen... Reasonable Doubt is a good album... I liked it then, I like it now

But I really question someone who thinks that Jay has a better debut album than the Purple Tape...

Do half of you cats even know what the Purple Tape is or how it shut down the streets when it came out?

So that means I can't prefer one over the other??? LMAO
 
whoseworldisthis;9170673 said:
GetoBoy;9170555 said:
whoseworldisthis;9170473 said:
When Big L and Jay Z did that freestyle together... Jay Z wasn't even the hottest cat on that freestyle

I question if a lot of you were really around like that when RD came out...

it is kind of like the revisionist Tupac history... I remember when he was Shock G.'s backup dancer...LOL

What does what happened 20 years ago gotta do with today??? You'll doing everything but judging the actual quality and longevity of the albums....RD gotta go becuz Jay wasn't the hottest nigga out??? Quality of albums is all opinions but niggas using everything but that to make a decision which I don't understand

Listen... Reasonable Doubt is a good album... I liked it then, I like it now

But I really question someone who thinks that Jay has a better debut album than the Purple Tape...

Do half of you cats even know what the Purple Tape is or how it shut down the streets when it came out?

Get rich or die trying shut down the streets too does that mean it's better then RD too???? Sorry I don't judge the quality of a album by if it shut down the streets or not I use my own 2 ears for that *shrugs*

 
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nujerz84;9170060 said:
All the other albums were hailed as Classics from the day it was released and most had commercial success.. Except for Jay's easy choice.

Lol. I honestly don't see how that's relevant... And as far as commercial success, didn't reasonable doubt outsell two of those other 4 albums first week?
 
P. Town;9170600 said:
The question was who debut album was the weakest. Nobody asked ya'll when the last time the Mets won a World Series and how nobody was fuckin with Jay in 1976.

Listen, people who hate Jay Z always want to bring up that "Hawaiian Sophie" track with Jaz O but the fact is Jay Z made a lot of nice tracks and freestyles before Reasonable Doubt came out. He did stuff with the Original Flavor, he had a song with Big Daddy Kane and Old Dirty Bastard, he did stuff with Big L, he wasn't even that young--27 years old (compared to say a Nas or an LL Cool J when his first "official" debut was released).

What song on Jay's album is as iconic as "Ice Cream" or "Criminology"?

Nas' verse on "Verbal Intercourse" is voted by some people the greatest guest verse of all time on an album...

 
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Dre and Rae's albums were basically collab albums with Snoop and Ghostface. Switch Rae with Ghostface, and Dre with Ice Cube and this shit would be infinitely harder
 
ya'll dissin jay for RD not being a fullout classic but fail to realize he's the only one on this list that topped his debut album (multiple times) I've never heard of a Nas album that's better than Illmatic, or a Snoop album better than Doggystyle, and sure as hell not a Raekwon album better than Cuban Links. You could argue 2001 with Dre but that's about it.
 
DarthRozay;9170716 said:
ya'll dissin jay for RD not being a fullout classic but fail to realize he's the only one on this list that topped his debut album (multiple times) I've never heard of a Nas album that's better than Illmatic, or a Snoop album better than Doggystyle, and sure as hell not a Raekwon album better than Cuban Links. You could argue 2001 with Dre but that's about it.

So, by that argument, Reasonable Doubt isn't Jay's best album which is why it should be voted for as the weakest debut album out of these choices.

 
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whoseworldisthis;9170724 said:
DarthRozay;9170716 said:
ya'll dissin jay for RD not being a fullout classic but fail to realize he's the only one on this list that topped his debut album (multiple times) I've never heard of a Nas album that's better than Illmatic, or a Snoop album better than Doggystyle, and sure as hell not a Raekwon album better than Cuban Links. You could argue 2001 with Dre but that's about it.

So, by that argument, Reasonable Doubt isn't Jay's best album which is why it should be voted for as the weakest debut album out of these choices.

Your logic makes no sense. If RD isn't Jay's best album, it doesn't make RD worse than any of the other albums. Conversely, if RD IS Jay's best album, it also doesn't mean that it is better than any of these albums.
 
DarthRozay;9170733 said:
whoseworldisthis;9170724 said:
DarthRozay;9170716 said:
ya'll dissin jay for RD not being a fullout classic but fail to realize he's the only one on this list that topped his debut album (multiple times) I've never heard of a Nas album that's better than Illmatic, or a Snoop album better than Doggystyle, and sure as hell not a Raekwon album better than Cuban Links. You could argue 2001 with Dre but that's about it.

So, by that argument, Reasonable Doubt isn't Jay's best album which is why it should be voted for as the weakest debut album out of these choices.

Your logic makes no sense. If RD isn't Jay's best album, it doesn't make RD worse than any of the other albums. Conversely, if RD IS Jay's best album, it also doesn't mean that it is better than any of these albums.

My logic makes perfect sense.

You are arguing that 4 or the 5 artists on this list never surpassed their debut in quality.

Are you saying an album you think isn't Jay Z's best is STILL better than the best album from Raekwon?

What kind of super rapper is Jay Z that he is putting out classics every album? LOL

Classics better than the greatest works of Snoop, Dre, Nas, and Raekwon?
 
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Music is subjective....I don't think illmatic is Nas best album I don't think RD is Jay best album and Chronic being Dre best album is up for debate so none of that means anything right here..... In 2016 I can play the other albums and it still feel fresh especially RD so that's the scale I'm using 2016 not 1996
 
whoseworldisthis;9170756 said:
DarthRozay;9170733 said:
whoseworldisthis;9170724 said:
DarthRozay;9170716 said:
ya'll dissin jay for RD not being a fullout classic but fail to realize he's the only one on this list that topped his debut album (multiple times) I've never heard of a Nas album that's better than Illmatic, or a Snoop album better than Doggystyle, and sure as hell not a Raekwon album better than Cuban Links. You could argue 2001 with Dre but that's about it.

So, by that argument, Reasonable Doubt isn't Jay's best album which is why it should be voted for as the weakest debut album out of these choices.

Your logic makes no sense. If RD isn't Jay's best album, it doesn't make RD worse than any of the other albums. Conversely, if RD IS Jay's best album, it also doesn't mean that it is better than any of these albums.

My logic makes perfect sense.

You are arguing that 4 or the 5 artists on this list never surpassed their debut in quality.

Are you saying an album you think isn't Jay Z's best is STILL better than the best album from Raekwon?

What kind of super rapper is Jay Z that he is putting out classics every album? LOL

Classics better than the greatest works of Snoop, Dre, Nas, and Raekwon?

Raekwon's album is the only one I can wholeheartedly say that RD is better than. The rest have parts that are either on par, better or worse than RD
 

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