ok....so beans goinat jay again??

[NothingButTheTruth]

Nigga first, spare me that NY shit. I'm from NYC as well and NO nigga up here was barking "Beans better than Jay". Stop trying to pull the wool over people eyes. Next, kill the cliche "Beans makes music for certain people bullshit".
I'm from NYC and it wasn't a damn thing Beans was spitting that I wasn't familiar with. The nigga was a good rapper who couldn't make songs. Thats why he went Gold (off the Rocs name) while his "peers" Fab, Jada, X, Ja, and a number of other acts went Platinum. Shit, he wasn't even outselling his labelmates. Bleek went 900k on his first go round. Gold again. Cam was Platinum. Clue was Platinum. Jay was...well Jay. That nigga was riding Bentleys while going Gold. This nigga was riding like other rappers who were actually stars. So what the hell are you saying??? Lastly Ray may be no good to you, but his NUMBERS don't lie. Beans being a top 15 Lyricist, however, is based of your opinion . Because you provided absolutely no evidence to support such cause. Leave it alone man. Your losing this battle.

Also, I'm still waiting for those Beans accolades. I provided statical evidence to support Ray being a HoFer. You provided....your opinion. I'm waiting...

The stuff I said about Beans being better than Jay must be subjective to who I chill with, because no one I know thinks JayZ is better than Beans AT ALL. And Beanie does make music for certain people. His music doesn't cross over (the same way Garth Brook's music doesn't crossover to the urban crowd). Beans' music is hood music/expression with clever word play... Can a suburban white family relate to what he's saying? NO. What about girls? NO. Who buys albums? white people and girls.

Also, you say to provide statical evidence, but watch this.....Lyricism has nothing to with record sales or how marketable you are. Who's better lyrically and/or a better emcee, Common or 50Cent?(Hopefully the answer to this is Common) Who sold more? (50Cent) Who's in more people's GOAT list?(Common)....So what evidence are you looking for? Record sales? Eminem sold more records than every rapper PERIOD. Is he the greatest rapper of all-time?(Sadly, the answer to this question is probably yes for you, because it will better support your argument) Far from it. So once again I ask what evidence are you looking for?

Note: You can replace Common with other rappers like Rakim, Jadakiss, Mos Def, Kweli, Canibus etc...

You say you supported your argument for Ray Allen being a Hall of Famer. I disagree. Those accolades you listed are nowhere near good enough to be a Hall of Famer. Being a 9-time all-star in a 14+ year career is not HOF status. Never making the NBA first team ONCE in a 14+ year career is not HOF status. Being overshadowed by at least 2 of your teammates when you finally win a ring is not HOF status. Averaging a career 20.5ppg, 3.7apg, 1.2spg is not anywhere near HOF status. You're right the numbers don't lie. Ray Allen will not make it to the HOF. How can he? He doesn't stand out amongst his peers. He's AVERAGE.

 

[gee757]

y is this thread still goin when da board street dummy is not gonna get anywherr dissin j???

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Hold up... did this nigga just say Derek Fisher is better than Ray Allen? Da fuck is wrong wit niggas deez dayz

Whose career would I rather have? Derek Fisher hands down. 5 championships as a starter and clutch performer is way better than being some average player (from an all-time standpoint) who can shoot the ball well. Also, yes I would take Derek Fisher over Ray Allen any day. He plays defense, he's a leader, and he's a phenomenal clutch performer.

 

[D-Marco]

Normally I would understand not answerin niggas like Game...who's obviously doin the beffin for promo.

But Jay took a shot on a record and got answered back. He should holla at Sig on or off record. But ignorin it aint a good look.