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zzombie;8609499 said:this was a good movie but it just did not have enough tension i liked the new characters but i really did not care about them
fortyacres;8609101 said:lord nemesis;8609086 said:If Anakin can find redemption after slaughtering a bunch of kids thenKylo Ren can find redemption after killing his own daddy. He still can get back to the light side before this trilogy is over
No , he deserves that work for that shit, I will not forgive that treachery.
Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:I enjoyed the film. It was a good balance of humor, action and story telling. It really did have the original feel to them. I appreciated that everything wasn't cgi which made everything feel more authentic. Cgi is great when it isn't over done so I tip my hat to Abrams for that.
The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
Kylo Ren
I see nobody picked up on the idea that he hated Solo because he wasn't force sensitive.
When he was essentially praying to Vader's helmet he called him grandfather. He also claimed that Luke's lightsaber was rightfully his.
I think that's why he has shortcomings because of his hate for Han and the fact he wasn't force sensitive. I also think that's why he turned because he was learning so much about Vader and Luke he felt his own dad wasn't good enough. I think he told Rey I know you are looking for Han to be the father you never had, don't because he's weak.
I didn't like how they killed of Han but I liked the foreshadowing for Ren. When they were standing on the bridge there was a little glimmer of light shining on them. When the sun was covered up it was basically showing that the light within him was no more. I like that he's imperfect and flawed.
Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:I enjoyed the film. It was a good balance of humor, action and story telling. It really did have the original feel to them. I appreciated that everything wasn't cgi which made everything feel more authentic. Cgi is great when it isn't over done so I tip my hat to Abrams for that.
The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
Kylo Ren
I see nobody picked up on the idea that he hated Solo because he wasn't force sensitive.
When he was essentially praying to Vader's helmet he called him grandfather. He also claimed that Luke's lightsaber was rightfully his.
I think that's why he has shortcomings because of his hate for Han and the fact he wasn't force sensitive. I also think that's why he turned because he was learning so much about Vader and Luke he felt his own dad wasn't good enough. I think he told Rey I know you are looking for Han to be the father you never had, don't because he's weak.
I didn't like how they killed of Han but I liked the foreshadowing for Ren. When they were standing on the bridge there was a little glimmer of light shining on them. When the sun was covered up it was basically showing that the light within him was no more. I like that he's imperfect and flawed.
Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
kzzl;8610005 said:My only nit picks is that Finn ain't have any kick ass moments. But he played the hell outta his role, him and Rey. They definitely proved they can carry this next set of the trilogy. I wasn't convinced of Kylo-Ren, he ain't really bring that evil badass vibe. More of a whiny, bitter brat than anything. Hope he does better once his training is complete. Now Sok(?), he is an evil bad ass. I wouldn't mind seeing how these emperors of the darkside reach their level of power. I like that alien chick, Moss(sp?). Hope she escaped and shows up later.
And how the hell were they draining the sun of energy for their weapon and not creating a black hole?
kzzl;8610054 said:Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
One thing about Finn, dude didn't have any kick ass moments. Great acting, courageous character, but I didn't see anything that showed me dude was awesome. Everybody in the movie has their moment, Poe the most, even Chewie went ham for a hot second. I ain't see that with Finn. The times he did, it was in a bumbling way. He'd try and then fail or need help. Rey's sidekick is the best way to put his role here. Cool movie, but it is what is.
And after all that dude got friend-zoned at the end of the movie. LOL. And then this dude was in sanitation in The First Order it's later revealed, which was really strange to throw in. Like why the hell was he suddenly sent to the front lines? So what he got promoted? Well, where was any of that military training that got him promoted at? I'm just saying.
fortyacres;8610094 said:The nitpicking some of you dudes doing is ridiculous.
Niggaz talmbout blackholes n shit in a scifi fantasy, lmao.
And really need exposition of Finn's job title in the first order , really ??
There are like 2 more movies to go , maybe ya'll will get the Malcolm X Finn you desire in 8&9 lol.
kzzl;8610054 said:Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
One thing about Finn, dude didn't have any kick ass moments. Great acting, courageous character, but I didn't see anything that showed me dude was awesome. Everybody in the movie has their moment, Poe the most, even Chewie went ham for a hot second. I ain't see that with Finn. The times he did, it was in a bumbling way. He'd try and then fail or need help. Rey's sidekick is the best way to put his role here. Cool movie, but it is what is.
And after all that dude got friend-zoned at the end of the movie. LOL. And then this dude was in sanitation in The First Order it's later revealed, which was really strange to throw in. Like why the hell was he suddenly sent to the front lines? So what he got promoted? Well, where was any of that military training that got him promoted at? I'm just saying.
Breezy_Kilroy;8610116 said:kzzl;8610054 said:Breezy_Kilroy;8609811 said:The Finn complaint
I'm sorry about dudes up and arms about Finn is wrong. There are too many instances where we look at roles and don't appreciate them because we ourselves think they are stereotypical. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his role. It would've been the exact same case if dude was white, I guarantee it. And that's what we should want, not any special treatment just fairness.
You have to think, Finn couldn't do much but shoot a blaster which most storm troopers are trained to do. They are supposed to be expendable that's why there are so many of them. Everything that he encountered it was his first time encountering it and he picked up on it all really fast. There was no token black guy moment to be had. He is one of the leads and drove the story.
One thing about Finn, dude didn't have any kick ass moments. Great acting, courageous character, but I didn't see anything that showed me dude was awesome. Everybody in the movie has their moment, Poe the most, even Chewie went ham for a hot second. I ain't see that with Finn. The times he did, it was in a bumbling way. He'd try and then fail or need help. Rey's sidekick is the best way to put his role here. Cool movie, but it is what is.
And after all that dude got friend-zoned at the end of the movie. LOL. And then this dude was in sanitation in The First Order it's later revealed, which was really strange to throw in. Like why the hell was he suddenly sent to the front lines? So what he got promoted? Well, where was any of that military training that got him promoted at? I'm just saying.
I see both sides but I think his moment will come which leads me to believe he will have the most development. He will grow into "that nigga" just like they are grooming Ren to be a better version of himself.
I think the janitor part just turns it into him being an unlikely hero. He was just a mere janitorial stormtrooper but in turn he saved the galaxy. That sounds better than all galaxy badass saves the day. We see that all the time so I'm ok with his portrayal. He had moments for sure but they weren't grand, I can agree with that.
Now after Ep 8 and he ain't had his moment we can be like wtf but in Ep 7 with Finn its like a learning process. Everyone else involved were basically vets or had an advantage. Poe is an elite pilot and Rey is force sensitive who has been living on her own since a child so she knows how to handle herself. He'll get his shine.
Idk if this is a spoiler but anyway
Does anybody else think the quip about "yes this is what the resistance looks like" a shot at the racists/doubters for casting a black lead?