Official Boston Celtics thread

[BlackAX410]

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

Idk smart has improved so much as a playmaker I don't think ainge does that

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

If they made another major win now move first I probably would, not that particular deal but one involving the 17 pick and some other assortment not involving Avery, I don't think they should mortgage the whole future for him if it means just basically replacing him with Avery then making another small time move for Vucevic or something like that, and I think Avery's value is sky high right now and I think he can be used in a separate deal to hopefully address the front court, or if someone more impactful becomes available then they can go hed and package him with the picks but I actually think we're going to have to trade for Hayward or he's staying in Utah, he'll be walking away from too much and Utah is competing now

The cba changed the game up.If it didn't make it more beneficial for players to stay with their teams then hayward to boston this summer would make all the sense in the world.If utah offers the max he has no incentive to turn down an extra year and 50-80 mil or whatever the difference is and trading for him would take giving up assets that you normally wouldn't have to give up.Plus utah has a good team they just had mad injuries in the 1st half this season(hill,favors,hayward,burks) now they're healthy and moving up the standings.

Think about a team with jimmy,bradley and crowder on the wings(or 2 of the 3)

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

Idk smart has improved so much as a playmaker I don't think ainge does that

Toronto is suspect(defense & rebounding) which is also bostons weaknesses.If boston can shore up rebounding and add another wing I can see them in the ecf.Ange should make a move

 

[its....JOHN B]

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

If they made another major win now move first I probably would, not that particular deal but one involving the 17 pick and some other assortment not involving Avery, I don't think they should mortgage the whole future for him if it means just basically replacing him with Avery then making another small time move for Vucevic or something like that, and I think Avery's value is sky high right now and I think he can be used in a separate deal to hopefully address the front court, or if someone more impactful becomes available then they can go hed and package him with the picks but I actually think we're going to have to trade for Hayward or he's staying in Utah, he'll be walking away from too much and Utah is competing now

The cba changed the game up.If it didn't make it more beneficial for players to stay with their teams then hayward to boston this summer would make all the sense in the world.If utah offers the max he has no incentive to turn down an extra year and 50-80 mil or whatever the difference is and trading for him would take giving up assets that you normally wouldn't have to give up.Plus utah has a good team they just had mad injuries in the 1st half this season(hill,favors,hayward,burks) now they're healthy and moving up the standings.

Think about a team with jimmy,bradley and crowder on the wings(or 2 of the 3)

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

Idk smart has improved so much as a playmaker I don't think ainge does that

Toronto is suspect(defense & rebounding) which is also bostons weaknesses.If boston can shore up rebounding and add another wing I can see them in the ecf.Ange should make a move

Butler is on such a good contract too until 2019, just a thought if we could get Butler with multiple picks/Smart/Brown? take care of IT and Avery in the offseason, figure out the front court after

Horford

Crowder

Butler

Avery

IT

And if we go bigger Crowder will be the 6th man, bring back Amir, Jerebko, Green and KO on good contracts, bring over Zizic, still got Rozier, sign a vet center to help out on the boards/interior de or try to grab Vucevic who is on a great contract till 19 (not sure what Magic will be asking for)

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

If they made another major win now move first I probably would, not that particular deal but one involving the 17 pick and some other assortment not involving Avery, I don't think they should mortgage the whole future for him if it means just basically replacing him with Avery then making another small time move for Vucevic or something like that, and I think Avery's value is sky high right now and I think he can be used in a separate deal to hopefully address the front court, or if someone more impactful becomes available then they can go hed and package him with the picks but I actually think we're going to have to trade for Hayward or he's staying in Utah, he'll be walking away from too much and Utah is competing now

The cba changed the game up.If it didn't make it more beneficial for players to stay with their teams then hayward to boston this summer would make all the sense in the world.If utah offers the max he has no incentive to turn down an extra year and 50-80 mil or whatever the difference is and trading for him would take giving up assets that you normally wouldn't have to give up.Plus utah has a good team they just had mad injuries in the 1st half this season(hill,favors,hayward,burks) now they're healthy and moving up the standings.

Think about a team with jimmy,bradley and crowder on the wings(or 2 of the 3)

@"its....JOHN B" would you give up that '17 pick for jimmy butler? bradley,smart nets '17 and either the grizz '19 or nets '18 pick?

I'd rather Taj Gibson then anyone else on the bulls CK

I'd take smart for taj straight up.You willing to do that?

Idk smart has improved so much as a playmaker I don't think ainge does that

Toronto is suspect(defense & rebounding) which is also bostons weaknesses.If boston can shore up rebounding and add another wing I can see them in the ecf.Ange should make a move

Butler is on such a good contract too until 2019, just a thought if we could get Butler with multiple picks/Smart/Brown? take care of IT and Avery in the offseason, figure out the front court after

Horford

Crowder

Butler

Avery

IT

And if we go bigger Crowder will be the 6th man, bring back Amir, Jerebko, Green and KO on good contracts, bring over Zizic, still got Rozier, sign a vet center to help out on the boards/interior de or try to grab Vucevic who is on a great contract till 19 (not sure what Magic will be asking for)

This is what I'm saying his contract has value in the new salary cap era.Jimmy is more versatile because he can guard pg's.I watched jimmy shut kyle lowry down in the 2nd half when the bulls came back and beat the raptors this season.Lil zeke is a great scorer but gets exposed at times cuz of his defense.You have 2-3 pit bulls on defense with jimmy,bradley and crowder that makes boston a problem.

I doubt wade returns benching them was dumb af and if wade bounces then I definitely think jimmy will get traded.

Most likely an off season trade unless the bulls just crash and burn the next month.Smart or bradley,brown,'17 nets pick and '19 grizz pick and you got a deal if I was gm.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

If the bulls were to trade jimmy boston or minnesota the only teams I'd want to trade him too.

Seriously doubt the bulls will trade him to thibs, these clowns pride won't allow that despite how good the return will be.Boston has a guaranteed top 4 pick coming this june if kevin love can get a #1 pick with a year left on his deal then jimmy butler definitely can get a top 3 pick.They had talks last draft day but ainge low balled if you want value you gotta give up value.If ainge wants boston to take that next step he gotta come off them assets cuz fultz is nice but he's young al horford is already 30 + they're obviously trying to compete right now.Makes sense for both sides.

 

[its....JOHN B]

I'm doing it as long as Avery isn't involved, you add Avery I consider that getting robbed and I don't think Ainge is desperate like that and won't give in, we're left with no other assets to make another move and after taking care of IT and and bringing in Jimmy we won't have the space to make another big signing, replacing Jimmy with Avery won't make us a contender

Both Brooklyn picks

Smart

Brown

I would even throw in that Memphis pick or Rozier

Our core will consist of IT, Horford, Jimmy, Jae and Avery, that's a special team, handle the rest after

 

[its....JOHN B]

Or they could sign a big free agent then take care of IT

 

[its....JOHN B]

Shit thinking about got me hoping they do it at the deadline

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

I'm doing it as long as Avery isn't involved, you add Avery I consider that getting robbed and I don't think Ainge is desperate like that and won't give in, we're left with no other assets to make another move and after taking care of IT and and bringing in Jimmy we won't have the space to make another big signing, replacing Jimmy with Avery won't make us a contender

Both Brooklyn picks

Smart

Brown

I would even throw in that Memphis pick or Rozier

Our core will consist of IT, Horford, Jimmy, Jae and Avery, that's a special team, handle the rest after

DEAL.Doubt ainge does that but that would be good enough for me.

Shit thinking about got me hoping they do it at the deadline

Depends what happens in february.Bulls schedule is rough til the all star break.Bulls wanted to blow it up last year but got low ball offers for jimmy.His value has increased since so it depends what the offers are.I wish they'd just re build + I want to see a team challenge the cavs.

Wade gone after this season.He'll go back to miami

 

[BlackAX410]

I'm with a move for butler I think smart and jaylen will be the center piece with a pick, I think that's a summer time move tho but if ainge can pick him up at the deadline I'd be thrilled. If we can't get that I want the vucevic deal to come through he'll help out on the glass

 

[its....JOHN B]

I'm with a move for butler I think smart and jaylen will be the center piece with a pick, I think that's a summer time move tho but if ainge can pick him up at the deadline I'd be thrilled. If we can't get that I want the vucevic deal to come through he'll help out on the glass

What is Orlando asking? I doubt they are willing to give him away it will probably be another significant package but if it takes most of our assets to get Butler I don't know if we would have enough

 

[BlackAX410]

https://twitter.com/ESPNForsberg/status/825708312201150465

This level of play is the greatest I've seen from a Celtics player mane the consistency and efficiency he's playing with has been amazing to watch. The 31 straight games of 20 or more points is just 9 back of John havelcheck record, I didn't see this scoring outburst coming but he put in work and is at superstar level

 

[BlackAX410]

I'm with a move for butler I think smart and jaylen will be the center piece with a pick, I think that's a summer time move tho but if ainge can pick him up at the deadline I'd be thrilled. If we can't get that I want the vucevic deal to come through he'll help out on the glass

What is Orlando asking? I doubt they are willing to give him away it will probably be another significant package but if it takes most of our assets to get Butler I don't know if we would have enough

I heard either smart or rozier, amir and Jonas with a non nets draft pick initially, vucci mane makes 14 million a year I think he's averaging 14 & 10

 

[its....JOHN B]

It's amazing what he turned into, something like when Curry developed into the greatest shooter and one of the best players in the NBA no one saw that coming, but he was still a lottery pick IT was the last pick of his draft and doing this at 5'9

 

[BlackAX410]

https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/825754028697067520

This is interesting too it says Stevens wouldn't mind coaching Melo but ainge ain't really with it

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Do the c's plan on re-signing thomas? He'll be 28 in a week and is a fa summer '18.If they don't then keeping that '17 pick and drafting fultz makes sense.

 

[BlackAX410]

Do the c's plan on re-signing thomas? He'll be 28 in a week and is a fa summer '18.If they don't then keeping that '17 pick and drafting fultz makes sense.

After this season I think we'll restructure his deal I heard it's a possibility. He's been at an elite level. The challenge is deciding on how much Avery and smart get paid with fultz on deck one of them is expendable

 

[its....JOHN B]

I think there's no question at this point unless during negotiations they have a number and he has a number and they can't come to an agreement, i think a lousy playoffs and first round exit could raise questions but as of right now he's earning that big contract

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

There are rival executives who believe the Bulls and Celtics will rekindle trade talks centered on Jimmy Butler before the Feb. 23 deadline. The teams held serious talks in June, and the Celtics own the same assets — Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, the Nets' first-round picks in 2017 and 2018 — the teams discussed then.

But last week's drama and a tough upcoming trip could change the direction of the season and generate internal debate anew.

Kc johnson printed this in today's tribune.That geek breaks no news he only reports what bulls fo sources spoon feed him.Nick friedell said on zach lowes podcast yesterday he keeps hearing the c's have the assets the bulls covet if they trade jimmy.I'm telling y'all if the c's really want jimmy butler they can acquire him it's up to ainge.

Lebron been spazzing for a reason he leads the league in mins per game.I personally want to see an in season blockbuster trade that can challenge the cavs or warriors just for competition sake.Bulls road trip starts tomorrow I got them going 2-4 then they face the raptors and c's before the asg.This stretch will determine if they sell,I keep hearing locally the bulls are strongly considering blowing it up.

 

[its....JOHN B]

I think we should go get Ibaka and hopefully make a deal for Jimmy, Serge is going to walk on Orlando if they don't trade him and he's not putting up numbers or living up to his defensive reputation in Orlando for them to get a big return, they should salvage what they can after giving up a significant package for him, I would give up our own pick, Zellers contract, and Yabusele for him, if he lives up to his potential you can bring him back on a good deal, if he fails you were going to have to move Zellers contract regardless and our pick doesn't hold much value