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Inglewood_B;c-9591734 said:![]()
Wtf is this shit?
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BeleeDatPleighboy;c-9591686 said:infamous114;c-9591671 said:aneed123;c-9591669 said:Shizlansky;c-9591660 said:BeleeDatPleighboy;c-9591657 said:How do they not call that tho?
Shit is clear as day
Call what?
The pick plays.
LMAO. Can't take L's gracefully.
dont do that bruh
I give Clemson their props.
Both teams played a great game and it's one of those whereboth teams deserved it.
Max.;c-9591848 said:https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/818693119629725696
Dabo: ACC 'best conference in college football'
TAMPA, Fla. -- Clemson coach Dabo Swinney proclaimed the ACC "the best conference in college football" on Tuesday after his team beat Alabama 35-31 to win the national championship.
For this season, anyway, it is hard to argue with that assessment. The ACC finished 9-3 in bowl season, by far the best of any in the country, while also staking claim to two national champions in the past four years.
It has been a steady climb for a conference once dismissed as the worst among the Power 5. But with Florida State and Clemson rising, and programs like Louisville, Miami and Virginia Tech making strides this season, any old ideas about the ACC need to be reconsidered.
"I think all you media folks need to change your stories," Swinney said during a news conference. "It sounds good. I've been in this league a long time, and this league has never gotten the respect that it deserves. I said about five years ago, just keep your mouth shut and go play. If we want to change the story, then we've got to change it from the inside out. Let's line them up, let's go play them. You've got to win those games. I told my AD that. I told Terry Don Phillips that. We've got to go play people and we've got to win. We've got to find a way. That's the only way it's going to change.
"I knew. I mean, I watch on tape, I watched all the Big Ten film and all that stuff. This is the best conference in college football. It's the deepest, it's the most competitive. You look at the head-to-head records against the SEC. ... You don't want to play a team from this conference. You just don't. I don't care; name one. That's why we're ready. That's why we're ready to go play Oklahoma two years in a row. That's why we're ready to go play Ohio State two out of the last four years. We're ready, because of what we see week in and week out in this conference."
The numbers back up the claim. The ACC finished 10-4 against the SEC, 6-2 against the Big Ten -- both league records for most wins against those conferences. Eleven teams finished with a winning overall record, also a league record. Overall, the ACC finished as the only league with a winning record against Power 5 opponents this year (17-9) and was 51-17 against all nonconference opponents, the best record of any conference and a league record for most wins in a season.
That is a far cry from where the ACC was a mere five years ago, when it had a difficult time winning nonconference games and was shut out of the national championship game on a yearly basis. It had been 14 long seasons between national championship game appearances before Florida State broke through in the 2014 BCS title game against Auburn.
Since then, the ACC has had a team either in the College Football Playoff or as a national champion.
"I said five or six years ago when we were going through a rough stage in the postseason and not winning our share of nonconference games during the regular season that the solution to that was pretty simple, but hard to do," ACC commissioner John Swofford said earlier in the week. "We needed to win more games, need to be better in the postseason, needed to win more of the right kinds of games. What we've seen over the last four or five years in the ACC is that our teams have done that. Certainly led by Clemson and Florida State, but we've developed a great deal more depth as well and I think that's become pretty obvious. It all is pretty well culminated this year."
stringer bell;c-9591922 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4W0bGbl3YY
Dabo getting @ ferret faced Cowherd...
Here is the transcription of the main part:
“You know people this morning are like, what do you think of that? One of the things I’ve realized you do not punish me if I’m wrong. You punish me as an audience if I choose topics you are not interested in. You have never punished me for being wrong. My Blazing Five is one of the highest rated things I ever do. And I get 57% right. When you punish me, politicians could learn a thing or two. Politicians lose when they talk about topics nobody cares about. Trump talked about the economy. That’s what most of us care about. Not bathroom issues. In the end, you have never punished me for being wrong. You punish me when I am uninteresting and when I choose topics that you don’t give a rip about. So I will continue to have SUPER STRONG opinions on college football, the NBA, the NFL”
As much as I’d love to pile on Cowherd for being wrong regarding Clemson, I have to say his answer was refreshing. Cowherd and the rest of the pundits spanning sports, politics, and so on, live and die by this point of view.
At some point, they saw their ticket up the ladder in media was to feign certainty and confidence in whatever they are talking about. Fake conviction. Hide any doubt or ambiguity. Sell whatever way you are leaning as if it’s the most sure thing you know and hope for the best because nobody cares if you’re wrong. The eyeballs will come if you’re any good at making a splash regardless if you’re right or wrong. In the rare instance you take some blowback like in this instance, it’s just more PR for you and the show and even bad PR is good PR.
Cowherd is basically admitting the truth that many of us know which is a hell of a lot better than shitbags within the Embrace Debate eco-system who like to find a new hot take to give them cover for their previous whiffs on a related subject.
And what sucks is that he’s totally right. “I wonder WHAT he’ll say next?” is a viable content strategy because people tune in for that. For some, like Cowherd, it’s not always that outrageous. In other instances, it’s pretty much all outrageous crap.
The idea of substantive and nuanced discussion with subject matter experts certainly exists, but doesn’t work as well as selling certainty and hot takes to a droll mainstream audience clamoring for more buffoonery.
Clemson being a fraud (or any team getting that label) is what the audience wants to hear. People tweet it, post it on message boards, and talk about it in their social circles and on talk radio. It reverberates. Agree or disagree, it’s something to talk about, and regardless if he’s wrong, you’re going to keep coming back if you like this particular flavor of hot take.
The idea of him and others saying something like “Clemson has had an up and down and year and I think they’re going to have problems against Ohio State or Alabama. I don’t know, we’ll see……should be a good game”, does not payoff in the sports media world.
That’s not to say all confident opinions and hot takes are contrived and oversold, but in this day and age, what do you expect when we put personalities on the air for hours at a time covering a wide array of sports and topics? I could maybe give you a hot take a day that could turn some heads, but that would be maybe five minutes a day. To some degree, isn’t that what SVP’s One Big Thing is?
So when people ask “Who watches these shows?”, “Why is this guy on TV?”,or “Who takes this guy seriously?”, Cowherd has truthfully answered those questions. A large amount of people do care about these opinions, but don’t care if they are proven to be wrong. Until people opt to tune out personalities and shows that make noise for the sake of making noise, this is what you get. And hey, at least Cowherd’s honest about it.
stringer bell;c-9592914 said:stringer bell;c-9591922 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4W0bGbl3YY
Dabo getting @ ferret faced Cowherd...
Here is the transcription of the main part:
“You know people this morning are like, what do you think of that? One of the things I’ve realized you do not punish me if I’m wrong. You punish me as an audience if I choose topics you are not interested in. You have never punished me for being wrong. My Blazing Five is one of the highest rated things I ever do. And I get 57% right. When you punish me, politicians could learn a thing or two. Politicians lose when they talk about topics nobody cares about. Trump talked about the economy. That’s what most of us care about. Not bathroom issues. In the end, you have never punished me for being wrong. You punish me when I am uninteresting and when I choose topics that you don’t give a rip about. So I will continue to have SUPER STRONG opinions on college football, the NBA, the NFL”
Wow.. I can't say he's lying tho..
http://awfulannouncing.com/2017/wit...s-need-to-be-interesting-but-not-correct.html
As much as I’d love to pile on Cowherd for being wrong regarding Clemson, I have to say his answer was refreshing. Cowherd and the rest of the pundits spanning sports, politics, and so on, live and die by this point of view.
At some point, they saw their ticket up the ladder in media was to feign certainty and confidence in whatever they are talking about. Fake conviction. Hide any doubt or ambiguity. Sell whatever way you are leaning as if it’s the most sure thing you know and hope for the best because nobody cares if you’re wrong. The eyeballs will come if you’re any good at making a splash regardless if you’re right or wrong. In the rare instance you take some blowback like in this instance, it’s just more PR for you and the show and even bad PR is good PR.
Cowherd is basically admitting the truth that many of us know which is a hell of a lot better than shitbags within the Embrace Debate eco-system who like to find a new hot take to give them cover for their previous whiffs on a related subject.
And what sucks is that he’s totally right. “I wonder WHAT he’ll say next?” is a viable content strategy because people tune in for that. For some, like Cowherd, it’s not always that outrageous. In other instances, it’s pretty much all outrageous crap.
The idea of substantive and nuanced discussion with subject matter experts certainly exists, but doesn’t work as well as selling certainty and hot takes to a droll mainstream audience clamoring for more buffoonery.
Clemson being a fraud (or any team getting that label) is what the audience wants to hear. People tweet it, post it on message boards, and talk about it in their social circles and on talk radio. It reverberates. Agree or disagree, it’s something to talk about, and regardless if he’s wrong, you’re going to keep coming back if you like this particular flavor of hot take.
The idea of him and others saying something like “Clemson has had an up and down and year and I think they’re going to have problems against Ohio State or Alabama. I don’t know, we’ll see……should be a good game”, does not payoff in the sports media world.
That’s not to say all confident opinions and hot takes are contrived and oversold, but in this day and age, what do you expect when we put personalities on the air for hours at a time covering a wide array of sports and topics? I could maybe give you a hot take a day that could turn some heads, but that would be maybe five minutes a day. To some degree, isn’t that what SVP’s One Big Thing is?
So when people ask “Who watches these shows?”, “Why is this guy on TV?”,or “Who takes this guy seriously?”, Cowherd has truthfully answered those questions. A large amount of people do care about these opinions, but don’t care if they are proven to be wrong. Until people opt to tune out personalities and shows that make noise for the sake of making noise, this is what you get. And hey, at least Cowherd’s honest about it.
vageneral08;c-9591980 said:d.green;c-9591674 said:Clemson won a NC?
WTF is going on in CFB?
Clemson??
They have a good football team no need to hate nigga
d.green;c-9593061 said:vageneral08;c-9591980 said:d.green;c-9591674 said:Clemson won a NC?
WTF is going on in CFB?
Clemson??
They have a good football team no need to hate nigga
No hate at all my nigga...I meant I couldn't believe it based on the rep they have had for so many years.
Anyone who has been watching football for a while (20+ years) probably can relate.
Dabo has earned his respect though. They are a top 4 CFB program today. Used to be fun telling their fans they haven't won sh*t since '81.
I guess UGA is the only one left now (1980) lol.
caddo man;c-9593566 said:Being a GT supporter, I am happy to see people recognize the consistency of Coach Johnson giving them Dawgs hell. Only if he could give any of the ACC teams in contention hell.
On to my recruiting thoughts.
Pat Swilling son and brother of a current GT player, Bruce Swilling is still committed to GT but finds himself looking elsewhere. Seeing that his football lineage is in Midtown ATL. He may be swayed by the bright lights and the smell of suntan lotion in LA (USC). We will see.
On to another team. FSU and LSU or fighting for the commitment of Marvin Wilson. He is most likely looking at FSU for it's consistency but has stated that LSU feels like home. Huge battle for a player that has been compared to ED Oliver. Texas is not in the mix but Oklahoma is. Go figure!
Tennessee is laying down the law right now securing all of their highly recruited players. Some have expressed their desire to still go on other visits. Several players have been told that going on a visit may result in their staff also looking elsewhere. With that said four Tennessee recruits have shut down their recruitment. Rocky top playing hardball.
Will Clemson get a boost in recruiting from winning the championship....................Hell Yeah they will! Look for Clemson start securing more pledges in the coming months. Two reason: Winning helps but the coaches have been coaching also. Now they can relax in the homes of recruits with their championship patch and polo shirts shining. Gloating on how their took down the Empire (Bama).
LSU recruiting.
Devonta Smith, P. Mathis, M. Wilson, Chris Allen (Bama commit), and Willie Gay are LSU top targets right now. With LB being a huge need LSU for some reason can not get top recruits to commit to coming. Is it scheme? Is it lack of NFL pedigree? Nope! It was LSU's loss of Dylan Moses to Bama. It was all or nothing for LSU to keep Dylan in the fold. With the firing of Les Miles they pretty much sealed the deal for Bama. Now they are scrambling to get three top tier LBs to sign. With several recruits sticking to their original pledges and one even flipping. LSU may have a top ten recruiting class but still will be lacking in the most needed area.
CottonCitySlim;c-9593673 said:caddo man;c-9593566 said:Being a GT supporter, I am happy to see people recognize the consistency of Coach Johnson giving them Dawgs hell. Only if he could give any of the ACC teams in contention hell.
On to my recruiting thoughts.
Pat Swilling son and brother of a current GT player, Bruce Swilling is still committed to GT but finds himself looking elsewhere. Seeing that his football lineage is in Midtown ATL. He may be swayed by the bright lights and the smell of suntan lotion in LA (USC). We will see.
On to another team. FSU and LSU or fighting for the commitment of Marvin Wilson. He is most likely looking at FSU for it's consistency but has stated that LSU feels like home. Huge battle for a player that has been compared to ED Oliver. Texas is not in the mix but Oklahoma is. Go figure!
Tennessee is laying down the law right now securing all of their highly recruited players. Some have expressed their desire to still go on other visits. Several players have been told that going on a visit may result in their staff also looking elsewhere. With that said four Tennessee recruits have shut down their recruitment. Rocky top playing hardball.
Will Clemson get a boost in recruiting from winning the championship....................Hell Yeah they will! Look for Clemson start securing more pledges in the coming months. Two reason: Winning helps but the coaches have been coaching also. Now they can relax in the homes of recruits with their championship patch and polo shirts shining. Gloating on how their took down the Empire (Bama).
LSU recruiting.
Devonta Smith, P. Mathis, M. Wilson, Chris Allen (Bama commit), and Willie Gay are LSU top targets right now. With LB being a huge need LSU for some reason can not get top recruits to commit to coming. Is it scheme? Is it lack of NFL pedigree? Nope! It was LSU's loss of Dylan Moses to Bama. It was all or nothing for LSU to keep Dylan in the fold. With the firing of Les Miles they pretty much sealed the deal for Bama. Now they are scrambling to get three top tier LBs to sign. With several recruits sticking to their original pledges and one even flipping. LSU may have a top ten recruiting class but still will be lacking in the most needed area.
If Johnson could recruit tech would be golden and I wouldn't take issue with him but when you have had players like megatron, Keith brooking, tashard choice, joe Hamilton and look at what they get now...step your game up pawl.