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af.r.i.c.a.
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Vader;7063230 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-dtrmh0nM
My soul is burning slowly... I hope Exum impresses in private work outs and sneaks into the top 3 somehow. 6ers are rumored to be interested and the bucks could use another gaurd alongside Knight who is more than capable of playing off the ball. Cavs won't consider it unless they move Kyrie before draft night and even then it's a reach.
af.r.i.c.a.;7063255 said:Vader;7063230 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-dtrmh0nM
My soul is burning slowly... I hope Exum impresses in private work outs and sneaks into the top 3 somehow. 6ers are rumored to be interested and the bucks could use another gaurd alongside Knight who is more than capable of playing off the ball. Cavs won't consider it unless they move Kyrie before draft night and even then it's a reach.
Cmon son. Impossible. Wiggins and Parker are not dropping out of the top 3. Unless Embid has a huge medical issue confirmed, neither will he. And Kyrie is not going anywhere.
Vader_F_Kennedy
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That's the beef wit waiters and Irving they both ball dominate Irving does need to learn to get his team mates involved more tho and I hate when he just dribbles dribbles and dribbles and ends up turning the ball over
af.r.i.c.a.
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S2J;7063572 said:af.r.i.c.a.;7063255 said:Vader;7063230 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-dtrmh0nM
My soul is burning slowly... I hope Exum impresses in private work outs and sneaks into the top 3 somehow. 6ers are rumored to be interested and the bucks could use another gaurd alongside Knight who is more than capable of playing off the ball. Cavs won't consider it unless they move Kyrie before draft night and even then it's a reach.
Cmon son. Impossible. Wiggins and Parker are not dropping out of the top 3. Unless Embid has a huge medical issue confirmed, neither will he. And Kyrie is not going anywhere.
I've seen stranger things happen on draft night. Nothing is impossible.. unlikely yes.. Impossible no. Reports are saying Kyrie is refusing to sign an extension which increases the chances he gets moved. The Cavs will not just let him walk like they did Lebron. If he requests a trade I'm sure they would entertain the idea especially on the day of the draft where trades seem to heat up.
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Embiid has potential to be real good or he can be the 2nd coming of thabeet or olawakandi I read in his private workouts he be killin but what can or will he do vs stronger more experienced 5's or vs nba game comp.Cavs have a tough decision to make cuz Parker would fit better with irving imo and they need a 3,at the same time I doubt they risk passing up the potential of embiid or wiggins.Last years draft had no clear cut #1 this years has at least 3
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Tommy bilfiger;7065942 said:Embiid has potential to be real good or he can be the 2nd coming of thabeet or olawakandi I read in his private workouts he be killin but what can or will he do vs stronger more experienced 5's or vs nba game comp.Cavs have a tough decision to make cuz Parker would fit better with irving imo and they need a 3,at the same time I doubt they risk passing up the potential of embiid or wiggins.Last years draft had no clear cut #1 this years has at least 3
That first pick is a toss up. Could be either Wiggins/Parker/Embid.
t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
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All the julius randle/zach randolph comparisons are funny. There ain't shit similar about those two besides they're both big, black and left handed. Like @tommybillfiger said embiid could be great or be a better version of thabeet. The one thing I didn't know is they say he has a nice 15 footer but of course we never saw it in because of kansas' system. It's harder to read players in a bill self system. Same thing with coach k usually but jabari did what the fuck he wanted lol.
If I had the choicer right now I'm taking vonleh/gordon over randle
If I had the choicer right now I'm taking vonleh/gordon over randle
t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
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One more thing if I'm cleveland I'm not taking wiggins. I know you go for best player available put parker/embiid fit much better with that team. Wiggins will not be as good playing off the ball while kyrie/dion dribble for 20 seconds
S2J;7067492 said:S/n i hope kyrie and waiters can figure it out bc imo they r more talented than wall and beal, just not as mature yet
@S2J .......it starts from the top...for one cleveland needs a coach that will stay.....you cannot expect players to develop quickly if u fire a coach after 1 yr......... (that's why wizards are better now.....they kept a consistent coach in their lockerroom).
#2....from what I heard out of Cleveland. ...the locker room was a mess....disrespect to former coach and shit...... this will be a great job though.....#1 pick....deng...kyrie....
^^^True. And i think they lettin Deng walk. But still, other than OKC and GS, u cant ask for a better combo of 'we're young af but can win now'
Thats 1 argument to go for Parker bc he is ready immediately
I fogot they even got guys like Earl clark, jaret jack out there smh Mike brown must b terrible and/or that kyrie-waiters beef might b as personal as they say
OR...Kyrie is doo doo as a natural Pg and leader. I remember cp3 had a TERRIBLE NO roster in the playoffs
Thats 1 argument to go for Parker bc he is ready immediately
I fogot they even got guys like Earl clark, jaret jack out there smh Mike brown must b terrible and/or that kyrie-waiters beef might b as personal as they say
OR...Kyrie is doo doo as a natural Pg and leader. I remember cp3 had a TERRIBLE NO roster in the playoffs
af.r.i.c.a.
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t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088;7066045 said:One more thing if I'm cleveland I'm not taking wiggins. I know you go for best player available put parker/embiid fit much better with that team. Wiggins will not be as good playing off the ball while kyrie/dion dribble for 20 seconds
So you would rather put the ball in wiggins hands? He's a terrible ball handler.. I would actually prefer that be played off the ball it's just up to Kyrie to develop into more of a distributer. I think Wiggins would be a great fit in Cleavland. Can spend the first few years easing into his role as the second scoring option. The Kyire and Waiters experiment is a failure.. they need to cut thier losses and trade DW while is stock is still high. Waiters for Harrison Barnes would be a good look for both teams. Maybe the Cavs take on Lee contract.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lq8fmzk
I know how much everyone misses my trade machine proposals lol think this trade works for both teams.
Vader_F_Kennedy
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Yea I believe at some point waiters will be traded ..he shined when Irving was hurt for a couple games ...but like I been saying we need a no non sense coach them niggas ran over mike brown
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af.r.i.c.a.;7068015 said:t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088;7066045 said:One more thing if I'm cleveland I'm not taking wiggins. I know you go for best player available put parker/embiid fit much better with that team. Wiggins will not be as good playing off the ball while kyrie/dion dribble for 20 seconds
So you would rather put the ball in wiggins hands? He's a terrible ball handler.. I would actually prefer that be played off the ball it's just up to Kyrie to develop into more of a distributer. I think Wiggins would be a great fit in Cleavland. Can spend the first few years easing into his role as the second scoring option. The Kyire and Waiters experiment is a failure.. they need to cut thier losses and trade DW while is stock is still high. Waiters for Harrison Barnes would be a good look for both teams. Maybe the Cavs take on Lee contract.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lq8fmzk
I know how much everyone misses my trade machine proposals lol think this trade works for both teams.
Idk how I feel about this trade.
Vader_F_Kennedy
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it was reported that irving wanted them to draft barnes instead of waiters in the first place
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whats the odds cavs takes somebody outside of the big 3 lol
af.r.i.c.a.
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Vader;7070058 said:whats the odds cavs takes somebody outside of the big 3 lol
Not gonna happen unless they move the pick for Love.
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Cleveland Cavaliers point guard Kyrie Irving will be eligible for a contract extension this summer, and the team is hesitant to offer him a maximum salary, according to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:
The Cavs are making noises that they aren't going to offer Kyrie Irving "max money" this summer via a long-term extension. They don't want to deal the 2014 All-Star Game MVP, but it could come to that, especially if the West Orange product and his family continue to tell people that he wants out. Irving hasn't been a leader in his first three seasons and he's also gained the unwelcomed reputation as a locker-room problem. Those are two reasons the Cavs don't see him as a max player.
"He was just handed too much, too soon," said one source. "You've got to make these young guys earn it, and that's where this team did a bad job with him."
It's long been assumed that Cleveland would offer Irving the max. After all, he's just 22 years old and has the skillset of a superstar. While there is room for improvement -- particularly on the defensive hand -- Irving was voted a starter in the All-Star Game this year and walked away from that showcase with an MVP award. Despite the rumors that he wanted to leave the Cavaliers, he spoke positively about a potential maximum deal after the last game of the regular season, via the News-Herald:
"Obviously, I'm aware I can be extended this summer," he said after the Cavs' 114-85 victory over the Brooklyn Nets on April 16 before 19,842 at Quicken Loans Arena.
"It's a big deal for me if they do offer me that. It will be exciting. I'll make the best decision for me and my family. That's what it will boil down to."
Irving doesn't sound like someone who wants out.
"I've been part of this, and I want to continue to be part of this," he said. "We've made some strides in the right direction, especially as an organization. I want to be part of something special. I don't have a definitive answer to that right now."
The offer is expected to come on July 1.
With a story that's been framed as only about whether or not Irving would sign, it's surprising to see the tables turned in this report. Still, it's premature to assume that Cleveland won't end up giving him max money. It only makes sense for Irving to demand that, and it behooves the Cavaliers to get something done.
Cleveland trying to accelerate their rebuilding process with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft, and the last thing the franchise needs is uncertainty about the man who is supposed to be the franchise player. Perhaps there will be more of a negotiation than originally thought, but typically young players with Irving's talent end up getting a maximum contract.
The Cavs are making noises that they aren't going to offer Kyrie Irving "max money" this summer via a long-term extension. They don't want to deal the 2014 All-Star Game MVP, but it could come to that, especially if the West Orange product and his family continue to tell people that he wants out. Irving hasn't been a leader in his first three seasons and he's also gained the unwelcomed reputation as a locker-room problem. Those are two reasons the Cavs don't see him as a max player.
"He was just handed too much, too soon," said one source. "You've got to make these young guys earn it, and that's where this team did a bad job with him."
It's long been assumed that Cleveland would offer Irving the max. After all, he's just 22 years old and has the skillset of a superstar. While there is room for improvement -- particularly on the defensive hand -- Irving was voted a starter in the All-Star Game this year and walked away from that showcase with an MVP award. Despite the rumors that he wanted to leave the Cavaliers, he spoke positively about a potential maximum deal after the last game of the regular season, via the News-Herald:
"Obviously, I'm aware I can be extended this summer," he said after the Cavs' 114-85 victory over the Brooklyn Nets on April 16 before 19,842 at Quicken Loans Arena.
"It's a big deal for me if they do offer me that. It will be exciting. I'll make the best decision for me and my family. That's what it will boil down to."
Irving doesn't sound like someone who wants out.
"I've been part of this, and I want to continue to be part of this," he said. "We've made some strides in the right direction, especially as an organization. I want to be part of something special. I don't have a definitive answer to that right now."
The offer is expected to come on July 1.
With a story that's been framed as only about whether or not Irving would sign, it's surprising to see the tables turned in this report. Still, it's premature to assume that Cleveland won't end up giving him max money. It only makes sense for Irving to demand that, and it behooves the Cavaliers to get something done.
Cleveland trying to accelerate their rebuilding process with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft, and the last thing the franchise needs is uncertainty about the man who is supposed to be the franchise player. Perhaps there will be more of a negotiation than originally thought, but typically young players with Irving's talent end up getting a maximum contract.
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