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That would be disappointing but still plenty of options for anyone picking in the top 5.. One monkey don't stop the show
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That would be disappointing but still plenty of options for anyone picking in the top 5.. One monkey don't stop the show
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af.r.i.c.a.;6920120 said:http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=298751WhoisDonG???;6918426 said:af.r.i.c.a.;6914242 said:Parallel;6913156 said:Apparently GM's are worried that Parker is going to stay for his Sophomore year at Duke.
As long as Embid is declaring it's all good. If he does comes back to duke I'm not mad.. at least if we suck again next year he will be a option. It's the 2 year Mormon mission that scares me the most
Word on the street he leaning toward staying.
That would be disappointing but still plenty of options for anyone picking in the top 5.. One monkey don't stop the show
Jabari leaving after sophomore year. I'd be surprised if he leaves. There have been whispers since December,
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Some under the radar prospects. I like Payton a lot he could be a steal for some team picking late lotto
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af.r.i.c.a.;6926116 said:http://youtu.be/OjANRwlH5V8
Really accurate. Ennis clearly needs to get stronger (will help him take contact In the lane), improve his man to man defense and jumper. BUT he has a great feel for the game. I expect early struggles in the league. Should go 10-15 range
Parker is in no hurry to enter the NBA and seems to really like that college life. I am not sure he wouldn't improve just going to the league though playing against better competion. Hard to go back when you basically a top three pick.
Gordon most likely stays and he needs to work on that jumper
McDerrmott is like a Wally Szerbiak and Korver combo and a tweener. I think he can be a good guy you bring off the bench as a scorer but I don't see what position he will play long term for defensive purposes. I am hoping my Sixers don't select him with the second pick they have.
The team that drafts late in the draft I think will be getting some gems (Early, Montrezl)
Looking at the draft express mocks and they have Napier in the 2nd round I don't see it. Dude is getting selected in the mid of the first.
Gordon most likely stays and he needs to work on that jumper
McDerrmott is like a Wally Szerbiak and Korver combo and a tweener. I think he can be a good guy you bring off the bench as a scorer but I don't see what position he will play long term for defensive purposes. I am hoping my Sixers don't select him with the second pick they have.
The team that drafts late in the draft I think will be getting some gems (Early, Montrezl)
Looking at the draft express mocks and they have Napier in the 2nd round I don't see it. Dude is getting selected in the mid of the first.
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ESPN Top 31
1(1) A. Wiggins SG KU
2(2) J. Parker SF DUKE
3(3) J. Embiid C KU
4(4) D. Exum PG AUS
5(5) J. Randle PF UK
6(6) A. Gordon PF ARIZ
7(7) N. Vonleh PF IND
8(8) M. Smart PG OKST
9(9) T. Ennis PG SYR
10(10) G. Harris SG MSU
11(11) M. Harrell PF UL
12(12) C. Capela PF SWI
13(13) D. McDermott SF CREI
14(14) D. Saric PF CRO
15(15) W. Cauley-Stein C UK
16(16) R. Hood SG DUKE
17(17) J. Young SF UK
18(18) J. Grant SF SYR
19(19) A. Payne PF MSU
20(20) T. Warren SF NCST
21(21) N. Stauskas SG MICH
22(22) C. Early SF WICH
23(23) K. Anderson PF UCLA
24(24) R. Hollis-Jefferson SF ARIZ
25(25) Z. LaVine PG UCLA
26(26) P. Hairston SG UNC
27(27) K. McDaniels SF CLEM
28(28) C. Walker SF FLA
29(29) M. Hezonja SF CRO
30(30) J. Nurkic C BOS
31(31) A. Harrison PG UK
1(1) A. Wiggins SG KU
2(2) J. Parker SF DUKE
3(3) J. Embiid C KU
4(4) D. Exum PG AUS
5(5) J. Randle PF UK
6(6) A. Gordon PF ARIZ
7(7) N. Vonleh PF IND
8(8) M. Smart PG OKST
9(9) T. Ennis PG SYR
10(10) G. Harris SG MSU
11(11) M. Harrell PF UL
12(12) C. Capela PF SWI
13(13) D. McDermott SF CREI
14(14) D. Saric PF CRO
15(15) W. Cauley-Stein C UK
16(16) R. Hood SG DUKE
17(17) J. Young SF UK
18(18) J. Grant SF SYR
19(19) A. Payne PF MSU
20(20) T. Warren SF NCST
21(21) N. Stauskas SG MICH
22(22) C. Early SF WICH
23(23) K. Anderson PF UCLA
24(24) R. Hollis-Jefferson SF ARIZ
25(25) Z. LaVine PG UCLA
26(26) P. Hairston SG UNC
27(27) K. McDaniels SF CLEM
28(28) C. Walker SF FLA
29(29) M. Hezonja SF CRO
30(30) J. Nurkic C BOS
31(31) A. Harrison PG UK
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MarcusGarvey;6933907 said:ESPN Top 31
1(1) A. Wiggins SG KU
2(2) J. Parker SF DUKE
3(3) J. Embiid C KU
4(4) D. Exum PG AUS
5(5) J. Randle PF UK
6(6) A. Gordon PF ARIZ
7(7) N. Vonleh PF IND
8(8) M. Smart PG OKST
9(9) T. Ennis PG SYR
10(10) G. Harris SG MSU
11(11) M. Harrell PF UL
12(12) C. Capela PF SWI
13(13) D. McDermott SF CREI
14(14) D. Saric PF CRO
15(15) W. Cauley-Stein C UK
16(16) R. Hood SG DUKE
17(17) J. Young SF UK
18(18) J. Grant SF SYR
19(19) A. Payne PF MSU
20(20) T. Warren SF NCST
21(21) N. Stauskas SG MICH
22(22) C. Early SF WICH
23(23) K. Anderson PF UCLA
24(24) R. Hollis-Jefferson SF ARIZ
25(25) Z. LaVine PG UCLA
26(26) P. Hairston SG UNC
27(27) K. McDaniels SF CLEM
28(28) C. Walker SF FLA
29(29) M. Hezonja SF CRO
30(30) J. Nurkic C BOS
31(31) A. Harrison PG UK
Some team is gonna reach on Lavine. He's not making it out the lottery.
af.r.i.c.a.;6933994 said:MarcusGarvey;6933907 said:ESPN Top 31
1(1) A. Wiggins SG KU
2(2) J. Parker SF DUKE
3(3) J. Embiid C KU
4(4) D. Exum PG AUS
5(5) J. Randle PF UK
6(6) A. Gordon PF ARIZ
7(7) N. Vonleh PF IND
8(8) M. Smart PG OKST
9(9) T. Ennis PG SYR
10(10) G. Harris SG MSU
11(11) M. Harrell PF UL
12(12) C. Capela PF SWI
13(13) D. McDermott SF CREI
14(14) D. Saric PF CRO
15(15) W. Cauley-Stein C UK
16(16) R. Hood SG DUKE
17(17) J. Young SF UK
18(18) J. Grant SF SYR
19(19) A. Payne PF MSU
20(20) T. Warren SF NCST
21(21) N. Stauskas SG MICH
22(22) C. Early SF WICH
23(23) K. Anderson PF UCLA
24(24) R. Hollis-Jefferson SF ARIZ
25(25) Z. LaVine PG UCLA
26(26) P. Hairston SG UNC
27(27) K. McDaniels SF CLEM
28(28) C. Walker SF FLA
29(29) M. Hezonja SF CRO
30(30) J. Nurkic C BOS
31(31) A. Harrison PG UK
Some team is gonna reach on Lavine. He's not making it out the lottery.
Definitely. I'd take Levine over Gary Harris and James young. Gotta seperate college success and immediate impact vs projection to the next level.
Imo Harris and young are the next Daekwon Cook and Doron Lamb. Some guys are better built for instant college success (a lot of Oak Hill, big prep academy school guys) and they get a lot of buzz but thats their ceiling. Another example is Corey Joseph and Anthony Bennet out of the powerhouse Findlay Prep.
While others are late bloomers.
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Man if the Pistons could get Jabari Parker....
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Who is Capela? Never heard of dude.
I wouldn't touch Cauley-Stein or Slo-Mo Anderson.
zach Levine will get drafted late in the lottery.
I might be crazy but I think Stauskas is going to be a solid pick in the 20s. I rather have him that Aaron Harrison.
Who is Capela? Never heard of dude.
I wouldn't touch Cauley-Stein or Slo-Mo Anderson.
zach Levine will get drafted late in the lottery.
I might be crazy but I think Stauskas is going to be a solid pick in the 20s. I rather have him that Aaron Harrison.
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MarcusGarvey;6934411 said:@africa
Who is Capela? Never heard of dude.
I wouldn't touch Cauley-Stein or Slo-Mo Anderson.
zach Levine will get drafted late in the lottery.
I might be crazy but I think Stauskas is going to be a solid pick in the 20s. I rather have him that Aaron Harrison.
International prospect.. 6'11 PF/C crazy wingspan.. Great athlete. .another guy with an unlimited ceiling. I've seen comps anywhere from Serge Ibaka to Antony Davis. Just needs to get stronger and learn the game a little more but he's apparently dominating overseas. Potentially a lottery pick.. ill post the DraftExpress breakdown a little later along with some other international prospects
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International Prospects. All projected to go in the first round
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Wiggins began the season atop our Big Board and he ends the college season in the same spot. He's had his ups and downs and struggled at times to live up to the huge expectations that have been on his shoulders. He has weaknesses that need to be improved, but in talking to numerous GMs and scouts, he's atop at least 60 percent of the big boards in the NBA at the moment and looks like he'd be the top pick for five of the six teams with the worst records in the league.
2. Jabari Parker
If Parker declares (and it's still an "if" right now), Parker has the label as the most NBA-ready freshman in this draft. Maybe the most NBA-ready of anyone in the draft. But teams want huge upside as well this high in the draft and while Parker is the most likely to come out and win Rookie of the Year honors, the fear is that his ceiling isn't as high as either Wiggins' or Joel Embiid's. A few teams are still leaning his direction with the No. 1 pick, but other than the Jazz, the rest are long shots. It will be interesting to see if his stock rises if he can get in great shape before the combine. That's one of the biggest knocks on him right now.
3. Joel Embiid
How's the back? That's the biggest question surrounding Embiid right now. The second biggest question? Will he declare? The early word was that he was leaning toward leaving KU, but his hesitation since then has raised some eyebrows. If his back checks out at the combine, he'll be back in the discussion for the No. 1 pick. If it's something small, he might drop a few spots. If teams think it needs surgery at some point, he could really slide. So for now, it's safe to say Embiid will be the biggest question mark in the draft for the next month.
4. Dante Exum
Exum is in LA, working out with Kobe Bryant's and Dwyane Wade's trainer, Tim Grover. NBA scouts would love to come in and get a peek, but no one can see him until the NBA releases the official underclassmen declaration list sometime in late April. Even then, it's unlikely that more than a couple of teams will get to see him in workouts. There's going to be a dearth of information about him going into the draft, but it doesn't mean he can't play. His agent, Rob Pelinka, is just going to be strategic about which teams get a good look.
5. Julius Randle
Randle finished with four double-doubles in the tournament and scored in double-digits in every game, but he struggled against UConn in the final game, scoring only 10 points on 3-for-7 shooting. The tournament showed off Randle's strengths and weaknesses. He can be a beast in the paint, moves his feet so well for someone his size and looks NBA ready. But he struggles to score against length and athleticism at times, and that will become only more pronounced at the next level.
6. Aaron Gordon
Gordon has yet to declare for the draft, but the word around the league is that he will do so. He is still a work in progress on the offensive end of the ball (which partially explains why his advanced metrics are so low), but all the defensive tools he has, combined with elite athleticism and motor, have many scouts on board with him as an Andrei Kirilenko-meets-Blake Griffin forward at the next level.
7. Noah Vonleh
Vonleh might be the one guy on this list who could end up leapfrogging both Gordon and Randle into that top-5 spot. Blessed with size, athletic ability and shooting touch, Vonleh's best comp may be Chris Bosh. You are going to see a lot of teams in the 4-8 range trying to schedule Randle, Gordon and Vonleh together for workouts. Each player possesses something the other doesn't. It should be epic.
8. Marcus Smart
Smart would have been the No. 2 pick in the draft last year had he come out. Another year at school has dinged his stock a bit, but a late-season surge for him has put him on very solid ground in the top 10. Some scouts love him and some scouts aren't enamored at all, but Smart's range looks like it's 4-10 right now.
9. Tyler Ennis
Ennis didn't finish the season as strong as he started, and I know there are some scouts who are starting to get off the bandwagon. But his steadiness as a point guard is pretty rare. I think you see Smart and Exum go ahead of him in virtually every scenario, but after those two are off the board, Ennis doesn't have a lot of competition and several teams in the late lottery/mid-first round need point guards.
10. Gary Harris
Harris has yet to declare his intentions for the NBA draft, however he's widely regarded as the second-best two-guard in the draft behind Wiggins. His lack of size and his inconsistent shooting from deep has hurt his stock a little bit, but Harris' ability to play at both ends of the floor, along with his young age (he's younger than both Ennis and Embiid) have scouts projecting him as a top-10 pick. Look for him to go in the 8-15 range.
2. Jabari Parker
If Parker declares (and it's still an "if" right now), Parker has the label as the most NBA-ready freshman in this draft. Maybe the most NBA-ready of anyone in the draft. But teams want huge upside as well this high in the draft and while Parker is the most likely to come out and win Rookie of the Year honors, the fear is that his ceiling isn't as high as either Wiggins' or Joel Embiid's. A few teams are still leaning his direction with the No. 1 pick, but other than the Jazz, the rest are long shots. It will be interesting to see if his stock rises if he can get in great shape before the combine. That's one of the biggest knocks on him right now.
3. Joel Embiid
How's the back? That's the biggest question surrounding Embiid right now. The second biggest question? Will he declare? The early word was that he was leaning toward leaving KU, but his hesitation since then has raised some eyebrows. If his back checks out at the combine, he'll be back in the discussion for the No. 1 pick. If it's something small, he might drop a few spots. If teams think it needs surgery at some point, he could really slide. So for now, it's safe to say Embiid will be the biggest question mark in the draft for the next month.
4. Dante Exum
Exum is in LA, working out with Kobe Bryant's and Dwyane Wade's trainer, Tim Grover. NBA scouts would love to come in and get a peek, but no one can see him until the NBA releases the official underclassmen declaration list sometime in late April. Even then, it's unlikely that more than a couple of teams will get to see him in workouts. There's going to be a dearth of information about him going into the draft, but it doesn't mean he can't play. His agent, Rob Pelinka, is just going to be strategic about which teams get a good look.
5. Julius Randle
Randle finished with four double-doubles in the tournament and scored in double-digits in every game, but he struggled against UConn in the final game, scoring only 10 points on 3-for-7 shooting. The tournament showed off Randle's strengths and weaknesses. He can be a beast in the paint, moves his feet so well for someone his size and looks NBA ready. But he struggles to score against length and athleticism at times, and that will become only more pronounced at the next level.
6. Aaron Gordon
Gordon has yet to declare for the draft, but the word around the league is that he will do so. He is still a work in progress on the offensive end of the ball (which partially explains why his advanced metrics are so low), but all the defensive tools he has, combined with elite athleticism and motor, have many scouts on board with him as an Andrei Kirilenko-meets-Blake Griffin forward at the next level.
7. Noah Vonleh
Vonleh might be the one guy on this list who could end up leapfrogging both Gordon and Randle into that top-5 spot. Blessed with size, athletic ability and shooting touch, Vonleh's best comp may be Chris Bosh. You are going to see a lot of teams in the 4-8 range trying to schedule Randle, Gordon and Vonleh together for workouts. Each player possesses something the other doesn't. It should be epic.
8. Marcus Smart
Smart would have been the No. 2 pick in the draft last year had he come out. Another year at school has dinged his stock a bit, but a late-season surge for him has put him on very solid ground in the top 10. Some scouts love him and some scouts aren't enamored at all, but Smart's range looks like it's 4-10 right now.
9. Tyler Ennis
Ennis didn't finish the season as strong as he started, and I know there are some scouts who are starting to get off the bandwagon. But his steadiness as a point guard is pretty rare. I think you see Smart and Exum go ahead of him in virtually every scenario, but after those two are off the board, Ennis doesn't have a lot of competition and several teams in the late lottery/mid-first round need point guards.
10. Gary Harris
Harris has yet to declare his intentions for the NBA draft, however he's widely regarded as the second-best two-guard in the draft behind Wiggins. His lack of size and his inconsistent shooting from deep has hurt his stock a little bit, but Harris' ability to play at both ends of the floor, along with his young age (he's younger than both Ennis and Embiid) have scouts projecting him as a top-10 pick. Look for him to go in the 8-15 range.
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I need a summer league to gauge those international guys. Even Exum, Although i do think He can play from what I've seen on the U-19 FIBA tapes
I need a summer league to gauge those international guys. Even Exum, Although i do think He can play from what I've seen on the U-19 FIBA tapes
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What's the word on Parker?
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TheBossman;6938947 said:What's the word on Parker?
The people I know that's cool with his pops. Is saying he might stay another year. He loves college. I think it's hard to turn down millions. But if he stays another year he still a top 3 pick. Plus a chance to win with the recruiting class they have coming in. Jabari wants to win that's what matters the most to him.
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