Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

[S2J]

Exactly, using Korver is lazy.

Korver runs off screens and thats pretty much all he can do. Mcdermott has more of a complete game, but isnt even as quick as Korver's slow ass, so he will not be running off screens.

Another comparison is Adam Morrison.

But nggas is delusional to think he can be anywhere near Peja status

 

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Pre March Madness Big Board

1. Jabari Parker

2. Joel Embid

3. Andrew Wiggins

4. Marcus Smart

5. Dante Exum

6. Noah Vonleh

7. Julius Randle

8. Gary Harris

9. Tyler Ennis

10. Doug McDermott

11. Rodney Hood

12. James Young

13. Zach Lavine

14. Aaron Gordon

15. Jerami Grant

HM

Nick Stauskas

PJ Hairiston

Wayne Seldon

Markell Brown

Jordan Clarkson

I don't expect anyone in the top 3 to fall out. The top 7 is pretty much locked in as well just a matter of who goes where. Obviously some one could sneak into the mix when the tourney starts and teams get their individual workouts but that's very unlikely. If I had to bet on one guy making a jump it would probably be Lavine. He has the measurables.. Lights out shooter.. Great handle.. Possibly the best athlete in the draft and that's really saying something. I can see a team in the top 7 reaching and banking on him fulfilling his potential. If he declares it's hard to see him falling outside the lotto

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Exactly, using Korver is lazy.

Korver runs off screens and thats pretty much all he can do. Mcdermott has more of a complete game, but isnt even as quick as Korver's slow ass, so he will not be running off screens.

Another comparison is Adam Morrison.

But nggas is delusional to think he can be anywhere near Peja status

I agree with the Wally Z comp but your underrating McDermott and overrating Peja. Peja was nice no doubt but your making it seem as if dude was a HOF and giving him the Adam Morrison comp is just disrespect.. Morison was never as good a shooter as dougy fresh. Doug will stick around in the league based on that skill alone..every thing else is just a bonus

 

[S2J]

Exactly, using Korver is lazy.

Korver runs off screens and thats pretty much all he can do. Mcdermott has more of a complete game, but isnt even as quick as Korver's slow ass, so he will not be running off screens.

Another comparison is Adam Morrison.

But nggas is delusional to think he can be anywhere near Peja status

I agree with the Wally Z comp but your underrating McDermott and overrating Peja. Peja was nice no doubt but your making it seem as if dude was a HOF and giving him the Adam Morrison comp is just disrespect.. Morison was never as good a shooter as dougy fresh. Doug will stick around in the league based on that skill alone..every thing else is just a bonus

Im just a student of history. Nothing Mcdermott is doing is more than what JJ Redick was doing (against better comp), what Jimmer was doing, what Morrison was doing.

Its disingenous to say its 'disrespect' to compare him to Morrison, bc of course hindsight is 20/20, but morrison was the #3 pick and had the same 'omg this could b the white guy to break thru' look

I could also go back to Mike Dunleavy jr (#3 pick), or even Jason Kapono...i know my history fam. So you just jumpin to the most current/best names makes it seem u dont know yours

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Exactly, using Korver is lazy.

Korver runs off screens and thats pretty much all he can do. Mcdermott has more of a complete game, but isnt even as quick as Korver's slow ass, so he will not be running off screens.

Another comparison is Adam Morrison.

But nggas is delusional to think he can be anywhere near Peja status

I agree with the Wally Z comp but your underrating McDermott and overrating Peja. Peja was nice no doubt but your making it seem as if dude was a HOF and giving him the Adam Morrison comp is just disrespect.. Morison was never as good a shooter as dougy fresh. Doug will stick around in the league based on that skill alone..every thing else is just a bonus

Im just a student of history. Nothing Mcdermott is doing is more than what JJ Redick was doing (against better comp), what Jimmer was doing, what Morrison was doing.

Its disingenous to say its 'disrespect' to compare him to Morrison, bc of course hindsight is 20/20, but morrison was the #3 pick and had the same 'omg this could b the white guy to break thru' look

I could also go back to Mike Dunleavy jr (#3 pick), or even Jason Kapono...i know my history fam. So you just jumpin to the most current/best names makes it seem u dont know yours

Your only looking at one side of the spectrum. Are we just supposed to write off every white player whose had successes in college and assume they will be busts in the NBA. What about Kevin Love? David Lee? and even JJ Redick has turned it around and is a key player on a contender and has been since playing with Dwight in Orlando. Like I said if you can shoot and your basketball. IQ is as high as those guys then there's a place for you in the league. Jason Kapono and Mike Dunleavy were great players in their own right but neither was playing at the level McDermott is playing and neither posses the versatility the Doug has. Will he be a bust? Only time will tell but i wouldn't mind taking a chance on him if I were picking outside the top 10. If you can get a player like Redick/Korver with the 12th pick in the draft that's a W.

 

[MarcusGarvey]

McDermott is 6'8" so don't comparing him against guards, isn't fair, I think he'll be a double figure scorer from the start.

Men like Jimmer and JJ are under 6'6" all that quick release avg 25+ in college don't work in the pros when you're getting covered by more athletic, smarter players.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

I think Embids draft stock just took a hit with his back injury and the minor injuries being a red flag. If he slips it will only help his case to stay in school. I just hope we get him or Parker to declare. Gut feeling at least one of them come back if not both..'if that's the case this draft just got a lot weaker and wiggins becomes the undisputed #1 prospect and paramount to be picking top 4

 

[MarcusGarvey]

I think Embids draft stock just took a hit with his back injury and the minor injuries being a red flag. If he slips it will only help his case to stay in school. I just hope we get him or Parker to declare. Gut feeling at least one of them come back if not both..'if that's the case this draft just got a lot weaker and wiggins becomes the undisputed #1 prospect and paramount to be picking top 4

He's number one on my prospect list but i don't trust big men with nagging injuries. Would have to take a long look at the physical

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

I think Embids draft stock just took a hit with his back injury and the minor injuries being a red flag. If he slips it will only help his case to stay in school. I just hope we get him or Parker to declare. Gut feeling at least one of them come back if not both..'if that's the case this draft just got a lot weaker and wiggins becomes the undisputed #1 prospect and paramount to be picking top 4

He's number one on my prospect list but i don't trust big men with nagging injuries. Would have to take a long look at the physical

Yea even tho those injuries are minor they starting to pile up. He could still go number 1 depending on who gets the pick.. and of course if he declares.

 

[MarcusGarvey]

So Embiid had back problems last year in HS as well, seems chronic, uh oh

 

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[MarcusGarvey]

So 71 pts in last two games, I don't want to be prisoner of the moment(s). If the word for 50 is "aggressive content" than the same would apply in the weakness scouts label Him he's not "aggressive" enough. Well he's shown that over the last month or so with some good results and a few bad ones see @Texas.

The motion on his jumper is good - I think he needs reps, I don't think he'll be a great 3 pt shooter but could be respectable with practice. Handles suspect, doesn't go left enough.

With that said, he's shown a propensity to get to the foul line, he doesn't finish well in traffic now cuz he has his head down when he drives but that's fixable especially when he puts on 10-15 lbs in the next couple of years.

I don't see the ability to get high assist numbers but could change when he gets NBA coaching. Defense is there, has really good instincts, he can cover 1 and 2s right now in the league but won't be able to guard 3s effectively until he gains weight.

Looking forward to a whole host of games tonight

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

So 71 pts in last two games, I don't want to be prisoner of the moment(s). If the word for 50 is "aggressive content" than the same would apply in the weakness scouts label Him he's not "aggressive" enough. Well he's shown that over the last month or so with some good results and a few bad ones see @Texas.

The motion on his jumper is good - I think he needs reps, I don't think he'll be a great 3 pt shooter but could be respectable with practice. Handles suspect, doesn't go left enough.

With that said, he's shown a propensity to get to the foul line, he doesn't finish well in traffic now cuz he has his head down when he drives but that's fixable especially when he puts on 10-15 lbs in the next couple of years.

I don't see the ability to get high assist numbers but could change when he gets NBA coaching. Defense is there, has really good instincts, he can cover 1 and 2s right now in the league but won't be able to guard 3s effectively until he gains weight.

Looking forward to a whole host of games tonight

Well said. I think he's already a respectable 3pt shooter tho with the potential to be a very good one. Agree with everything else tho. His handle and strength are the glaring weaknesses but those can be fixed.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

http://youtu.be/J8PKsk3riiA

Lol @ Mitch Kupchak lurking 1:26.

 

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Noah Vonleh leaning toward declaring for the NBA Draft

Yahoo Sports reports that Indiana forward Noah Vonleh is "strongly leaning" toward declaring for the NBA Draft.

Indiana freshman Noah Vonleh is strongly leaning toward entering the NBA draft, sources told Yahoo Sports.

NBA front office executives expect Vonleh, a 6-foot-10 forward, would be selected somewhere between Nos. 7-12 in the draft. Still, there is widespread agreement his potential far exceeds his performance and preparedness for the NBA.

Vonleh's inner circle has been engaged in dialogue with a few prominent NBA agents, especially across the past several weeks of the season, sources told Yahoo Sports. NCAA bylaws allow players, families and associates to talk with agents and still preserve their amateur eligibility.

Team executives and agents are under the impression that Vonleh, who had an inflammation in his left foot, sat out two games late in Indiana's regular season largely out of concern for his draft status.

via Indiana freshman Noah Vonleh leaning toward declaring for NBA draft - Yahoo Sports.

Vonleh's Hoosiers lost in the first round of the Big Ten tournament to Illinois. He averaged 11 points and nine rebounds per game this season, shooting 52 percent from the field.

Vonleh's biggest assets are his size and length at 6-8 with a 7-4 wingspan, and his ability to stretch the floor. He shot 49 percent from three this season. His potential as a stretch four with reboulding ability is high.

 

[S2J]

Yea Vonleh has to go. Nothing can happen for his stock but go down

S/n, was at the ACC tourney and we was talkin bout James McAdoo smh

Perfect example of how these nggas can b overhyped, so there's no incentive to come back after yr 1 . All that can happen is ur stock go down

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Yea Vonleh has to go. Nothing can happen for his stock but go down

S/n, was at the ACC tourney and we was talkin bout James McAdoo smh

Perfect example of how these nggas can b overhyped, so there's no incentive to come back after yr 1 . All that can happen is ur stock go down

Blake improved his stock when he came back but yea odds are your stock will go down when teams have more time to over evaluate and nit pick your game.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

5 down 2 to go. I'm almost 100 percent confident Wiggins/Randle/Smart declare. Embid and Parker will probably come down to the wire. I'll be happy if just one of them leaves.

 

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Jabari Parker tells @ESPNAndyKatz that his career is incomplete, and that could affect decision on whether to return for sophomore season.

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