Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

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Rodney Hood is also nice he might be the sleeper of the upcoming draft reminds me of Bosh.

The kid who plays PG for Bama is also a flat out scorer forgot his name.
 
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one_manshow;6630231 said:
Rodney Hood is also nice he might be the sleeper of the upcoming draft reminds me of Bosh.

The kid who plays PG for Bama is also a flat out scorer forgot his name.
who?

 
Rodney Hood is like 6'7, and a SF, the only comparison to Bosh's game that Hood has is that they are both left handed
 
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watch
 
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That was a draft express video of Jahii Carson PG from Arizona state. He's a Ty Lawson type of guard but because he's a junior his stock isn't as high as some guys. It also hurts that he's 5'10 but the kid is a freak athlete and super fast/quick
 
Embiid lol I don bet against history.

In a draft full of potential generational talents, im not touchin a raw Embiid.

From Sam Bowie to Greg Oden to Darko Milicic to Hasheen Thabeet, no way.
 
S2J;6638000 said:
Embiid lol I don bet against history.

In a draft full of potential generational talents, im not touchin a raw Embiid.

From Sam Bowie to Greg Oden to Darko Milicic to Hasheen Thabeet, no way.

So Kobe Westbrook Dwight etc weren't raw talent? Embid is worst case scenario a 10 10 and 2 center. Oden had injury concerns coming into that draft.. Darko was unproven playing overseas and thabeet was never supposed to be a two way center his offense was trash at UCONN. Embid is the best player on a team full off star players and he's getting better with every game he plays.

 
af.r.i.c.a.;6639166 said:
S2J;6638000 said:
Embiid lol I don bet against history.

In a draft full of potential generational talents, im not touchin a raw Embiid.

From Sam Bowie to Greg Oden to Darko Milicic to Hasheen Thabeet, no way.

So Kobe Westbrook Dwight etc weren't raw talent? Embid is worst case scenario a 10 10 and 2 center. Oden had injury concerns coming into that draft.. Darko was unproven playing overseas and thabeet was never supposed to be a two way center his offense was trash at UCONN. Embid is the best player on a team full off star players and he's getting better with every game he plays.

Comparing raw bigs to raw wings and/or pgs are apples n oranges

And 10,10, and 2 damn sure isnt a 'worst case scenario'. Its more like a modestly accurate expectation. Worst case scenario is more like 6 and 4 and a fledgling journeyman career. Theres far too many examples like him for that NOT to be a possibility.

 
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af.r.i.c.a.;6639166 said:
S2J;6638000 said:
Embiid lol I don bet against history.

In a draft full of potential generational talents, im not touchin a raw Embiid.

From Sam Bowie to Greg Oden to Darko Milicic to Hasheen Thabeet, no way.

So Kobe Westbrook Dwight etc weren't raw talent? Embid is worst case scenario a 10 10 and 2 center. Oden had injury concerns coming into that draft.. Darko was unproven playing overseas and thabeet was never supposed to be a two way center his offense was trash at UCONN. Embid is the best player on a team full off star players and he's getting better with every game he plays.

Comparing raw bigs to raw wings and/or pgs are apples n oranges

And 10,10, and 2 damn sure isnt a 'worst case scenario'. Its more like a modestly accurate expectation. Worst case scenario is more like 6 and 4 and a fledgling journeyman career. Theres far too many examples like him for that NOT to be a possibility.

Marc Gasol KG Bynum Tyson Chandler Anthony Davis Ibaka.. and no comparing wings to bigs is not apples and oranges if your a raw talent you won't be shit without hard work and confidence I don't care what position you play. Fact of the matter is most teams that win championships have to have a quality big. That's why oden was picked ahead of durant and why hakeem(who was a raw talent at the time) was picked ahead of MJ.

 
af.r.i.c.a.;6646954 said:
S2J;6644709 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6639166 said:
S2J;6638000 said:
Embiid lol I don bet against history.

In a draft full of potential generational talents, im not touchin a raw Embiid.

From Sam Bowie to Greg Oden to Darko Milicic to Hasheen Thabeet, no way.

So Kobe Westbrook Dwight etc weren't raw talent? Embid is worst case scenario a 10 10 and 2 center. Oden had injury concerns coming into that draft.. Darko was unproven playing overseas and thabeet was never supposed to be a two way center his offense was trash at UCONN. Embid is the best player on a team full off star players and he's getting better with every game he plays.

Comparing raw bigs to raw wings and/or pgs are apples n oranges

And 10,10, and 2 damn sure isnt a 'worst case scenario'. Its more like a modestly accurate expectation. Worst case scenario is more like 6 and 4 and a fledgling journeyman career. Theres far too many examples like him for that NOT to be a possibility.

Marc Gasol KG Bynum Tyson Chandler Anthony Davis Ibaka.. and no comparing wings to bigs is not apples and oranges if your a raw talent you won't be shit without hard work and confidence I don't care what position you play. Fact of the matter is most teams that win championships have to have a quality big. That's why oden was picked ahead of durant and why hakeem(who was a raw talent at the time) was picked ahead of MJ.

How'd that work out?

And what's Embiid's ceiling? Do you logically think he's going to break the mold and be the best pure C in decades? Who was the last pure Center to come in this league and dominate? Andrew Bynum? And he needed other perimter players around him to win a chip. If not for pure low post skill, what is a moden day big giving you??? He will never be Pao, he will never be Duncan.

He cant be Anthony Dvais b/c he's killing due to his mobility and athleticsm. He and Embiid are noti alike.

Embiid would be lucky to be Ibaka status. And what is Ibaka. A good, talented player who is surrounded by two elite perimeter players. You wouldnt pick Ibaka over durant or Westbrrok, and you shouldnt pick Embiid over Wiggins, Parker, Smart etc who have such potential to be faces of the league. There's just no way.

 
Dont give up so easily.

And you're wrong. Most teams who win championships did not have "quality" bigs...They had SUPERSTAR bigs

Duncan, Shaq, Nowitzki, Hakeem, etc...Embiid will not sniff them.

So if you're not a superstar big (he's not), you go the other route an win with superstar talent period. DWade few yrs back, Bron n co now, MJ, Kobe w/out Shaq. None of those teams' best players were their bigs.

If he;s lucky Embiid will be a 3rd piece, a contributor...while Parker, wiggins, smart are the new wave.
 
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