Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

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S2J;6985172 said:
BDB;6984560 said:
Knicks don't own their pick.

wow lol smh At least for them its only late lottery.

Who got their pick?

Magic most likely.

If the pick jumps into top 3 it belongs to Denver and if it stands pat it goes to Orlando due to a trade where Orlando receives Denver's less favorable lottery pick.
 
BDB;6985213 said:
S2J;6985172 said:
BDB;6984560 said:
Knicks don't own their pick.

wow lol smh At least for them its only late lottery.

Who got their pick?

*Magic*

If the pick jumps into top 3 it belongs to Denver and if it stands pat it goes to Orlando due to a trade where Orlando receives Denver's less favorable lottery pick.

*Fixed*

Still can't believe both the Nuggets and Knicks missed the playoffs. I was confident that pick would be at best somewhere in the early 20s

 
I think I will do another mock once the lottery is selected. It is probably not worth doing another until the top order is set.
 
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

 
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

 
af.r.i.c.a.;6986185 said:
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

Haha they have height advantages for a Pg type which is still good. They are like 6-4 what 6-5 good dribblers. Kendall Marshall is a really good passer. I would say Kendall is an elite passer in terms of passing skills. I am trying to compare them to an NBA player right now and I can't really find a player.

 
Andrew will get drafted because he's a 6'5" PG but he has limited vision, not great speed, overpowers and misses around the rim and not a consistent shooter. Id pass
 
thagame;6986580 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6986185 said:
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

Haha they have height advantages for a Pg type which is still good. They are like 6-4 what 6-5 good dribblers. Kendall Marshall is a really good passer. I would say Kendall is an elite passer in terms of passing skills. I am trying to compare them to an NBA player right now and I can't really find a player.

I don't know maybe a poor mans Andre Miller?? I think that might be Andrews ceiling.

 
af.r.i.c.a.;6986634 said:
thagame;6986580 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6986185 said:
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

Haha they have height advantages for a Pg type which is still good. They are like 6-4 what 6-5 good dribblers. Kendall Marshall is a really good passer. I would say Kendall is an elite passer in terms of passing skills. I am trying to compare them to an NBA player right now and I can't really find a player.

I don't know maybe a poor mans Andre Miller?? I think that might be Andrews ceiling.

I was thinking him at first. Miller has the best post game for a pg. They don't have that but they are more athletic but not to the point they are good finishers around the rim. They are not that fast hard to compare

 
MarcusGarvey;6986623 said:
Andrew will get drafted because he's a 6'5" PG but he has limited vision, not great speed, overpowers and misses around the rim and not a consistent shooter. Id pass

Yeah I am seeing backup pg unless he becomes a better shooter. The speed thing is a concern. I don't see good defensive potential. Pg's are so deep you to be special in something in order to see the floor in the nba

 
af.r.i.c.a.;6986634 said:
thagame;6986580 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6986185 said:
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

Haha they have height advantages for a Pg type which is still good. They are like 6-4 what 6-5 good dribblers. Kendall Marshall is a really good passer. I would say Kendall is an elite passer in terms of passing skills. I am trying to compare them to an NBA player right now and I can't really find a player.

I don't know maybe a poor mans Andre Miller?? I think that might be Andrews ceiling.

There you go with the overhype. Stop man lol He wont sniff Andre Miller

How bout lets go with...Javaris Crittendon or Antonio Daniels. Nggas with no real skills, just good size
 
S2J;6991319 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6986634 said:
thagame;6986580 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;6986185 said:
thagame;6986001 said:
MarcusGarvey;6985801 said:
Harrisons going back, not impressed by either at this point.

I think one will be a journey man PG. Long term backup Pg type game managers. Not really that fast and probably average athletes. Kendall Marshall type without the better passing skills. I am not high on either in the NBA.

Damn Kendal Marshal without the passing? What's left?

Haha they have height advantages for a Pg type which is still good. They are like 6-4 what 6-5 good dribblers. Kendall Marshall is a really good passer. I would say Kendall is an elite passer in terms of passing skills. I am trying to compare them to an NBA player right now and I can't really find a player.

I don't know maybe a poor mans Andre Miller?? I think that might be Andrews ceiling.

There you go with the overhype. Stop man lol He wont sniff Andre Miller

How bout lets go with...Javaris Crittendon or Antonio Daniels. Nggas with no real skills, just good size

You have to give these guys the benefit of the doubt until they are proven busts in the pros.. plus calling him a poor mans Andre Miller isn't overhype especially when you take into account that he was a 5 star recruit just a year ago. Writing them off before they even get a chance is just as bad as "overhyping". Your a fucking hypocrite

 
Im just pointing out that your comparisons are a little hollow fam. All of your comparisons are to known names and pretty successful guys. Its misguided, as if none of these dudes will flat out not 'make it'.

Any ngga can say 'poor mans Andre Miller'. That means nothing. Javaris Crittendon is a dead on comparison

'After all these guys are 5 star recruits'...so was Javaris Crittendon. Like i said, HS rankings go out the window when making NBA projections.
 
S2J;6991752 said:
Im just pointing out that your comparisons are a little hollow fam. All of your comparisons are to known names and pretty successful guys. Its misguided, as if none of these dudes will flat out not 'make it'.

Any ngga can say 'poor mans Andre Miller'. That means nothing. Javaris Crittendon is a dead on comparison

'After all these guys are 5 star recruits'...so was Javaris Crittendon. Like i said, HS rankings go out the window when making NBA projections.

Who's good to you then?

 
S2J;6991752 said:
Im just pointing out that your comparisons are a little hollow fam. All of your comparisons are to known names and pretty successful guys. Its misguided, as if none of these dudes will flat out not 'make it'.

Any ngga can say 'poor mans Andre Miller'. That means nothing. Javaris Crittendon is a dead on comparison

'After all these guys are 5 star recruits'...so was Javaris Crittendon. Like i said, HS rankings go out the window when making NBA projections.

Hindsight is 20/20. I'm just comparing similarities and playing styles. Not saying Andrew Wiggins is going to be the next PG or Embid the next Hakeem but there are similarities in playing styles.. build.. and strengths/weaknesses. Fact is no one knows how good these guys will be but I'm just making educated guesses.

 
A$AP_A$TON;6991829 said:
S2J;6991752 said:
Im just pointing out that your comparisons are a little hollow fam. All of your comparisons are to known names and pretty successful guys. Its misguided, as if none of these dudes will flat out not 'make it'.

Any ngga can say 'poor mans Andre Miller'. That means nothing. Javaris Crittendon is a dead on comparison

'After all these guys are 5 star recruits'...so was Javaris Crittendon. Like i said, HS rankings go out the window when making NBA projections.

Who's good to you then?

I dropped my rankings the page before. I think Jabari will be exactly what we think. I cant even imagine him avg anything less than 18ppg the next 10 yrs

Wiggins-i dont see the 'it' factor but he def will be nice. So i put him in the category of perrenial all star but not really makin the team better (these days not a lot of SG's can) . I see a Demar Derozan type impact.

I think Marcus Smart is a winner and will succeed, be an all star. A Lance Stephenson/Iman Shumpert type impact.

Tyler Ennis will be a career starter. Embiid will be a Tyson Chandler like guy. Levine is my dark horse. So i like a lot of guys.

 
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And my point is, if all that happens ^^^, this draft will be looked at as a success! Look back to even the best draft class, and you'll be lucky to find more than 5 all stars.

I think we get greedy a lil to think ALL these guys are gonna hit. There will be a lot of busts simply b/c of the 1 and done....Not a 1 n done guy, but remember Thomas Robinson!? Already a foot out the league. Did Julius Randle do anything he didnt do? Is he better than him?...time will tell, but i feel projections are only genuine if you make room for the busts of the crop.
 
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S2J;6993401 said:
And my point is, if all that happens ^^^, this draft will be looked at as a success! Look back to even the best draft class, and you'll be lucky to find more than 5 all stars.

I think we get greedy a lil to think ALL these guys are gonna hit. There will be a lot of busts simply b/c of the 1 and done....Not a 1 n done guy, but remember Thomas Robinson!? Already a foot out the league. Did Julius Randle do anything he didnt do? Is he better than him?...time will tell, but i feel projections are only genuine if you make room for the busts of the crop.

I think this draft has potential to be as good and as deep as 2008 and 1996. It's not every year we get as much talent in one draft as this one. This was draft overhyped and over sensationalized by the media but for good reason. The talent and depth is obvious but once you put a microscope on these kids and have time to over analyze thier game it's easy to nit pick and call them overrated.

 
I agree with @S2J‌ on the way he is looking at things as far as a lot of the people in this thread overrating and throwing out perennial All-Stars to compare these kids to.

A lot of these kids look great against other kids who they are more athletic, bigger or stronger than but the NBA is the best of the best and lets face it a lot of these kids aren't gonna be as good as most of you believe because a lot of them can't play as well as we think.

I hate when people make NCAA player comparisons to NBA player comparisons because we truly don't know how good these guys are do to the competition they are playing against in the NCAA and the roles they have in the NCAA. I like to let the process play out and enjoy what they kids turn out to be without a whole lot of the conjecture.

 

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