Off-duty NYPD pig kills a Blk man in front of his GF & 3 kids in a road rage incident. Update: Vid +

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Stiff;9159126 said:
“He could have rolled up his window, he could have driven away,” Wareham said. “He did not have to shoot him.”

“Take off. Roll up your window. Avoid any kind of confrontation,” Barron said of the off-duty cop, comments echoed by the family’s attorney. “For him to discharge his weapon three times and take one’s life over some kind of verbal confrontation is outrageous. We are demanding justice.”

I dont know...this the part that makes it seem like what the police are saying is true. Like they wanted dude to be able to just walk up to him and start swinging on him and traffic and the pig should've just took the L and drove off. Sad situation either way and speaks even more to the mentality of cops ...get punched a few times and then immediately fear that you're on the verge of death (so you claim) and start firing off shots.

Exactly.

The fact that the family isn't disputing that he was punching the cop through the window leads me to believe that ........well........he was indeed punching the cop through the window.

In which case, this shooting shouldn't be lumped in with situations in which cops have shot and killed black people unprovoked.
 
In the current environment, anybody who buys a cop's story, against probability and witness accounts, is useless to the movement.
 
stringer bell;548081 said:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/04/brooklyn-police-road-rage-shooting/

Police: Off-Duty Cop Fatally Shoots Man In Brooklyn Road Rage Incident

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — An apparent road rage incident involving an off-duty NYPD officer turned deadly early Monday morning.

The officer was stopped at a red light after a traffic dispute when a 38-year-old driver attacked the officer, who was seated in his personal car, by repeatedly punching him in the head through an open window, police said.

The officer pulled out his gun and shot three times at the other driver, striking him in the head. He was shot in front of his wife and two children. The man was pronounced dead at the scene, WCBS 880’s Kelly Waldron reported.

Family members identified the victim to CBS2’s Magdalena Doris as Delrawn Small. They said he wasn’t armed and should still be alive today.

“His wife was in the car with him. His two kids were there,” said Victor Dempsey, the victim’s brother. “They were going to see fireworks up by whatever park is in the neighborhood.

“It has to stop. It’s not right that they just get a gun and a badge and they can do what they want to do,” Victor Dempsey continued.

CBS2’s Christine Sloan reported the incident happened just before midnight on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn where Small was visiting childhood friends at a barbershop to celebrate the holiday weekend.

Small’s friend said the officer was “out of control.”

“My brother was a loving, kind father. He was out here working trying to provide for his family and he was killed in front of his family by a cop out here out of control,” Keith said.

Dempsey’s family, their lawyer Roger Wareham and New York City Councilman Charles Barron returned to the scene later Monday morning for a news conference, 1010 WINS’ Glenn Schuck reported.

“He could have rolled up his window, he could have driven away,” Wareham said. “He did not have to shoot him.”

“Take off. Roll up your window. Avoid any kind of confrontation,” Barron said of the off-duty cop, comments echoed by the family’s attorney. “For him to discharge his weapon three times and take one’s life over some kind of verbal confrontation is outrageous. We are demanding justice.”

The officer, whose name has not been released, claims his life was in danger, police said.

“I’m here, and I’m distraught because I know he’s a great man,” Victor Dempsey said of his brother. “This is somebody that I looked up to. This is somebody that pushed me to do better, the same way I pushed him to do better. It hurts to see them going so far and doing so much to just get stopped dead in your tracks, literally.”

The family said they’re concerned they may not get all of the answers they are looking for.

“It hurts more when it is by the hands of someone that’s supposed to be protecting us,” Victor Dempsey said. “Now all I’m seeing is them protecting themselves.”


The New York State Attorney General’s office said it is actively reviewing the case.

“Members of the Attorney Genera’s Special Investigations and Prosecutions Unit are in contact with the NYPD, the victim’s family, and community leaders. SIPU has a search warrant for the officer’s car and is actively reviewing the case,” Eric Soufer, spokesman for New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, said in a statement.

The off-duty officer, a three-year veteran assigned to the 79th Precinct in Bedford-Stuyvesant, is recovering at Jamaica Hospital from cuts and bruises to his head and face. There have been no charges filed.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said Monday afternoon that the cop had just finished a shift and was likely headed home at the time of the incident. Police believe he used his service weapon in the shooting.

“It’s much, much too early to draw any conclusions at this time,” Bratton said. “It is a protocol that our Force Investigation Division will do a very comprehensive initial investigation. We’re gathering a lot of video from the area, cameras that we were able to identify. We have talked with the officer.”

Police won’t say what the original dispute was that led to the confrontation. Police are not releasing anymore information until the NYPD’s Force Investigation Division determines exactly what happened.

Was a cac?
 
i mean the legal standard for on duty officers using self-defense is ridiculously low obviously......this guy wasn't on duty tho.

I bolded the key phrases:

"How does self-defense work in New York?"

"In New York, the law of justification is codified in Penal Code Article 35. The key to understanding justification is to recognize that it is all about proportionality and reasonableness. Your response to an attack has to be proportional to the attack that you are defending yourself from. For example, if a person comes up to you and starts to punch you in the face, you may be justified in punching him back to defend yourself. However, in that same hypothetical, you would not be justified in taking out a gun and shooting your attacker dead. However, if your attacker pulled out a knife you may be justified in shooting him. It all depends. The attack or threat of attack must also be imminent. So if a local mafioso comes to your store and says he wants weekly payments or he’ll break your legs, you can’t use justification in this context. You also can’t use justification if you are the initial aggressor.

The key issue in determining whether you are legally entitled to defend yourself is whether you subjectively believe that you must use physical force to defend yourself AND whether your belief is objectively reasonable. In other words, not only do you need to actually believe that you need to use physical force, but a neutral and average person looking at the situation from your perspective must have come to the same conclusion. It is the existence of this second prong that usually allows prosecutors to defeat a claim of justification. For example, if a person truly believes that he is about be robbed by a panhandler who is asking him for change, he may still not be justified in shooting him dead if a neutral observer would conclude that his belief was not objectively reasonable.

As confusing as all of this is, when you are dealing with what the law calls “deadly physical force,” it gets even more confusing. You are allowed to attack your attacker as long as you are only using physical force. However, the law is different if you are going to use “deadly physical force.” Deadly physical force is defined as “physical force which, under the circumstances in which it is used, is readily capable of causing death or other serious physical injury.” There are two main differences between when you are allowed to use physical force and when you’re allowed to use deadly physical force. First, you can only use deadly physical force when you subjectively believe (and the belief is objectively reasonable) that deadly physical force is being used on you. Second, you CANNOT use deadly physical force if you can retreat to complete safety (hence no stand your ground). So if you are in a situation in which your attacker is running after you with a knife, but you are in a car, under New York law, you are guilty of murder if you get out of your car and kill your attacker if you could have safely driven away. The duty to retreat, however, does not apply in a situation in which you are in your home. This is called the “castle doctrine.” The doctrine stems from the idea that your home is your castle and you should be able to defend it if necessary without having to run away."
http://www.nycriminallawyerblog.com/2014/05/20/self-defense-work-new-york/

 
If the story is true then the officer was justified.

At the end of the day they are just men in uniforms.

If a dude run up on me and start swinging its over for him, not worried about his wife and kids.
 
blacktux;9160543 said:
If the story is true then the officer was justified.

At the end of the day they are just men in uniforms.

If a dude run up on me and start swinging its over for him, not worried about his wife and kids.

How?

Literally days ago there was a cracka driving in front of me but in the right lane, he was a younger white guy. He slammed on his brakes whipped open his car door in the middle of ongoing traffic(leaving me to have to swerve to avoid him and his door) and he tried to fight a cac behind him. Cac 2 had his windows up and wouldnt engage and dude just yelled and left.

You telling me cac 2 that had his window up had a right to pop young cac who threatened him? Cause the only difference is in the "alleged" story being told is one guy was a cop and one wasnt.

These road rage shits happen all the time. Sometimes its just yelling sometimes it gets physical dont nobody be dying over them shits like that. The niggaz actually trained to handle situations more n anybody tho be going to extremes the most.

And I dont believe the cop.
 
I can't believe how stupid people can be these days. Do these idiots not know that the media is one of white supremacists biggest tools? And that they purposely fabricate false facts and always try to make suspects/victims look guilty when they are BLACK?

Look at how the article is written. They made sure to mention that the victim was an ex-con and they made sure to mention that the cop was a veteran. They purposely try to paint a picture of black men being violent, an ex con, a thug, etc.

Yall need to wake your asses up and stop believing everything you see and read in the news.

I bet when this video comes out its gonna be a whole different story.
 


On Friday, video footage was released showing the moments leading up to Small’s death. The surveillance footage taken at the intersection is grainy, yet shows Small exit his vehicle and walk up to the officer’s driver’s side window before shots were fired. From the footage, which admiringly is grainy, it appears Small never attacked the officer. Within seconds you see Small attempt to flee as the officer fires at him. The officer then gets out of his car, checks on Small, then goes back to his car before the video cuts off. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀

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The officer has been identified as Officer #WayneIsaacs of NYPD. Not only did the newly released footage contradict Issacs' claims, it also contradicts claims of the owner of a nearby building who insisted the "angry motorist" could be seen “punching the sh*t” out of Isaacs.

Another pig caught lying again...
 
stringer bell;9169958 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWi0jG1fTBE

On Friday, video footage was released showing the moments leading up to Small’s death. The surveillance footage taken at the intersection is grainy, yet shows Small exit his vehicle and walk up to the officer’s driver’s side window before shots were fired. From the footage, which admiringly is grainy, it appears Small never attacked the officer. Within seconds you see Small attempt to flee as the officer fires at him. The officer then gets out of his car, checks on Small, then goes back to his car before the video cuts off. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀

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The officer has been identified as Officer #WayneIsaacs of NYPD. Not only did the newly released footage contradict Issacs' claims, it also contradicts claims of the owner of a nearby building who insisted the "angry motorist" could be seen “punching the sh*t” out of Isaacs.

Another pig caught lying again...

On that note, when these cops make official statements that are found to be blatant lies, why are perjury charges never brought against them?
 
deadeye;9159168 said:
Stiff;9159126 said:
“He could have rolled up his window, he could have driven away,” Wareham said. “He did not have to shoot him.”

“Take off. Roll up your window. Avoid any kind of confrontation,” Barron said of the off-duty cop, comments echoed by the family’s attorney. “For him to discharge his weapon three times and take one’s life over some kind of verbal confrontation is outrageous. We are demanding justice.”

I dont know...this the part that makes it seem like what the police are saying is true. Like they wanted dude to be able to just walk up to him and start swinging on him and traffic and the pig should've just took the L and drove off. Sad situation either way and speaks even more to the mentality of cops ...get punched a few times and then immediately fear that you're on the verge of death (so you claim) and start firing off shots.

Exactly.

The fact that the family isn't disputing that he was punching the cop through the window leads me to believe that ........well........he was indeed punching the cop through the window.

In which case, this shooting shouldn't be lumped in with situations in which cops have shot and killed black people unprovoked.

Exactly. In this case dude Happened to be a cop, but Small didn't know that.. he just 'ran up on a nigga' for cutting him off

Of course the cop is abusing his power and Firearm and should do time for it, but at the end of the day dudes responsibility is to his wife and 2 children who were present.. he wasnt living for his family in that moment
 
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...small-punching-off-duty-cop-article-1.2704876

N.Y. Attorney General probes video of Delrawn Small being shot by off-duty cop within seconds of approaching officer's car

State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office is reviewing a damning video that shows a 37-year-old man getting fatally shot by an off-duty cop within seconds of approaching the officer’s car — contradicting earlier accounts that the cop was defending himself, officials said.

The surveillance video, which the attorney general’s office acquired earlier this week, shows Delrawn Small approaching Police Officer Wayne Isaacs’ 2002 Nissan Altima on Atlantic Ave. and Bradford St. in East New York, Brooklyn. The confrontation happened just after midnight July 4.

Small buckled over and grabbed at a passing car within seconds of approaching Issacs’ driver side window. He stumbled off and falls to the ground in between two parked cars.

Moments later, Isaacs, also 37, got out of his car. He tucked what appeared to be a gun under his shirt as he looked at Small’s body, according to the video.

Small’s outraged relatives said Friday night the footage was proof that the killing was not justified.

“The video is as clear as day. That everything they told us from the very beginning was a lie. Was a lie,” Small’s brother Victor Dempsey said. “Every single thing. And I don’t know how to feel now. All I know is my brother was murdered. Point blank period murdered.”

The victim’s sister, Victoria Davis, said she choked back tears watching Small stagger and fall to the ground.

“To just watch him stumble from car to car, knowing that he suffered, knowing that he was afraid, that was hard,” she said. “That’s not a video that I would ever want to see again.”

The fatal shooting took place in front of Small’s girlfriend and three kids.

Isaacs, a three-year veteran of the NYPD, was returning home from a 4 p.m.-midnight shift when he allegedly cut off Small’s 2016 Kia, witnesses told police. When the vehicles reached a stoplight, Small exited his car, approached Isaacs’ vehicle, and was shot.

Isaacs told investigators that Small had punched him at least two times before he opened fire.

He remains on active duty as Schneiderman’s office investigates. The NYPD is also conducting a departmental review.

Small’s neighbors were “ecstatic” the video surfaced.

They tried to paint him out to be some gorilla — like, he jumped out the car to go attack this person not knowing that he was a cop,” said Octavius Sullivan, 36, who has known Small since they were boys.

Attorney Roger Wareham, who is representing Small’s family, said the video was proof Isaacs lied and should be arrested immediately.

“If the cop’s story is obviously false, why haven’t they arrested him?” he asked.

Gwen Carr, mother of Eric Garner, the Staten Island man who died after being placed in a chokehold by an undercover detective in 2014, said Friday the video sickened her.

“This video so upsets me. It’s horrible. They lie all the time,” said Carr, as she joined a Black Lives Matter protest in Harlem
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ictment-delrawn-small-death-article-1.2705389

Rev. Al Sharpton calls for NYPD cop’s prosecution in Delrawn Small death as video refutes self-defense claim

The Rev. Al Sharpton thinks State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman should go “full steam ahead” in prosecuting an off-duty NYPD cop who fatally shot a man - now that a damning video contradicts the officer’s claim that he was defending himself.

“This video clearly raises questions on the story the officer stated,” Sharpton told the Daily News Saturday, after his weekly National Action Network rally. “This is absolutely the opposite of what the policeman said.”

After shooting 37-year-old Delrawn Small during a road rage confrontation in Brooklyn on July 4, Officer Wayne Isaacs told responding officers Small had punched him at least twice, spurring the cop to open fire in self defense.

But a video acquired by the state attorney general’s office shows Small was shot within two seconds of approaching Isaacs’ 2002 Nissan Altima on Altantic Ave. near Bradford St. in East New York.

“There is clearly not enough time for (Isaacs) to have been punched,” said Sharpton, who has reviewed the video. “We think the independent prosecutor we fought to get must go full steam ahead on this.”

The surveillance video shows Small approaching Isaacs’ car just after midnight. Small felt that Isaac had cut off his 2016 Kia.

After Isaacs fires, Small buckled over and grabbed at a passing car, the video shows. He stumbled and fell to the ground in between two parked cars.

“We are not against black cops or white cops — we are against wrong cops,” Sharpton said. “This cop told a story that is wrong and someone lost their life. If he told a story that doesn’t stand up about his alibi, why should we believe anything else he says? He killed a man.”

Isaacs remains on active duty as Schneiderman’s office investigates.

“(We) will follow the facts and evidence — including this video evidence — wherever they lead,” Schneiderman said Friday. The NYPD is also conducting a review.

The shooting was not discussed at Saturday’s NAN rally, but Sharpton said his organization will support Small’s family any way they can
 
That dude got shot soon as he crouched down to look into the drivers window, he didn't have a chance, that officer had his gun out in a concealed position ready to fire the moment the dude approached his window and dude didn't see it coming til it was too late. Ain't know way in hell he would have been that stupid enough to still approach that man's car if he had seen that a gun was being brandished at him
 
I'm sorry but that's was such a pointless way to have to die, I really wish the brotha didn't run up on that car like that. Road rage is stupid. R.I.P.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/n...ff-duty-officer-in-brooklyn-emerges.html?_r=0

Video of Fatal Shooting by Off-Duty Officer in Brooklyn Emerges

The video was grainy, and the men on the street were blurs rendered in black and white. But the clip, recorded by a surveillance camera pointed at a Brooklyn intersection, shows a man approaching the driver’s side window of a car, and then, in an instant, stumbling away before collapsing onto the pavement.

Law enforcement officials said they believed that the video, which circulated late last week, showed the fatal shooting of the man, Delrawn Small, by an off-duty New York City police officer during a traffic dispute on July 4.

“I broke down; I couldn’t stop crying,” Zayanahla Vines, a nephew of Mr. Small, said at a protest in Manhattan on Saturday, recounting his reaction to the footage. “I had to go outside and get a breath of fresh air.”

The clip surfaced as the nation was grappling with videos, broadcast on television and shared widely on social media, of confrontations over the past week between black men and police officers. Mr. Small’s death preceded the fatal shootings of Alton B. Sterling, who was killed early Tuesday by officers in Baton Rouge, La., and Philando Castile, who was killed on Wednesday in Falcon Heights, Minn.

In Mr. Sterling’s case, bystanders recorded the shooting on cellphone video; in Mr. Castile’s, his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, broadcast the traffic stop using Facebook Live.

Unlike the other men, Mr. Small, 37, encountered the police officer, identified by law enforcement officials as Wayne Isaacs, when the officer was off duty. The Police Department said that Officer Isaacs, who is also 37, had just completed a 4-p.m.-to-midnight shift and was driving home alone.

The New York State attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman, has started an investigation into the shooting. A year ago, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York issued an executive order naming Mr. Schneiderman’s office as a special prosecutor handling police-related civilian deaths.


In a statement issued on Friday, Mr. Schneiderman said the video was being reviewed as part of the investigation. The video was first reported by The New York Post.

As special prosecutor, I am committed to conducting a full, fair and independent investigation of this tragedy,” he said, “and will follow the facts and evidence — including this video evidence — wherever they lead.”

Shortly after midnight on July 4, the authorities said, Officer Isaacs fired his 9-millimeter service pistol after he and Mr. Small stopped at a red light on Atlantic Avenue in the Cypress Hills neighborhood of Brooklyn. Mr. Small’s girlfriend and two children were in the car.

According to a preliminary version of events from the police, Mr. Small got out of his car after stopping at the light, at Bradford Street, and approached Officer Isaacs, punching him through the open car window. Mr. Small was struck by three bullets, in the chest, abdomen and arm, according to the medical examiner.

But in the video, there appeared to be a short window between when Mr. Small approached Officer Isaacs’s car and when he recoiled from the gunfire. The attorney general’s office declined to discuss the video. Law enforcement officials who have reviewed the footage said that it did not provide complete answers to what happened between the two men.

Efforts to reach Officer Isaacs were unsuccessful, and the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, the union representing New York’s rank-and-file police officers, declined to comment.

On Saturday night, Mr. Small’s name was invoked along with Mr. Sterling’s and Mr. Castile’s by the protesters who marched through the streets of Lower Manhattan.

“My uncle was killed in cold blood by somebody that was wearing a badge, and that man is still walking free today,” Mr. Vines, 22, said, addressing the hundreds of demonstrators. “We can’t stand for this any longer. It’s not right, and we know it’s not right.”

Wenona Small, who was married to Mr. Small, said that she was disturbed by the video and has struggled to grasp what happened. She had been separated from him for years, she said, but they had remained friends.

“I felt like I was being shot as I watched it,” Ms. Small said. “Nobody deserves to die like that.”
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...n-small-stripped-gun-shield-article-1.2707114

Cop who killed Delrawn Small stripped of gun and shield as AG investigates video contradicting his story

The off-duty cop who shot dead another motorist in Brooklyn has been stripped of his gun and shield, the NYPD said Monday.

Officer Wayne Isaacs was placed on modified duty and will work a desk job while the NYPD and the state Attorney General’s office investigate evidence - including seemingly damning video that contradicts what Isaacs said happened before he shot Delrawn Small, 37, in a road-rage incident in East New York early on July 4.

The video shows Smalls getting shot within seconds of approaching Isaacs’ car.

Isaacs had previously claimed he opened fire from the seat of his car because Small had punched him in the face at least twice.

The incident was sparked moments earlier when Small, angry because he felt Isaacs had cut him off on Atlantic Ave., followed the cop for several blocks before getting out of his car and confronting him.

Isaacs, a three-year veteran, had been assigned to the 79th Precinct in Bedford-Stuyvesant.
 

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