obeezy gonna win this debt ceiling fight

[dawriter]

This wasn't about Obama "winning" anything. This was about getting the debt ceiling raised. Period. I don't understand why people don't get that. This was turned into being about Obama when it should have been nothing but a procedural vote. Never before has deficit reduction been apart of raising the debt ceiling. It's no coincidence that suddenly Republicans are hell bent on decreasing spending. The programs that Obama has passed need funding, programs that they never wanted passed. So, by "reducing the deficit" they get to cut funding to the programs that they never wanted signed into law int he first place. This has been the Republican goal from the beginning...but that's not Obama's fault...that's OUR fault for not showing up to the polls during the mid-term elections.

Everyone that voted in 2008 should have made sure their asses voted in 2010. It's not enough to just have a President that you like, you have to have a President that can work with Congress. The powers of government are separate for a reason. If Obama could do it all himself, none of this would have mattered but he doesn't have that type of power and you can't negotiate with people that refuse to be rational about anything. This was never about the debt ceiling or about negotiating, this was about making President Obama look bad and destroying his Presidency.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Yeah but the bush tax cuts expire in 2013 after the election

either way even if obama looses in 2013 he is still the president in december.

either way obama will have nothing to loose.

plus medicare is not on the chopping block in the initial cuts

and 1 trillion over 10 yrs is not real money. we still gonna spend 10 trillion dollars

over the next few yrs

medicare ain't on the chopping blocks now...but in the 2nd committee cuts, it will be if they don't meet a compromise

and you're right, cutting 1 trillion now and 1.3 trillion later ain't doing jack shit...honestly this "concession" couldve been done months ago

 

[tru_m.a.c]

that's OUR fault for not showing up to the polls during the mid-term elections.

I'm sry b, but that shit was not my fault. I live in NY. We do democratic things out here. I don't sympathize with the American ppl.

If you're in a swing state its YOUR fault for not getting out and voting. (not you but the 3rd person you)

We can't motivate swing state niggas to do shit they don't want to. Fair weather citizens ain't my type of ppl.

 

[politicalthug202]

medicare ain't on the chopping blocks now...but in the 2nd committee cuts, it will be if they don't meet a compromise

and you're right, cutting 1 trillion now and 1.3 trillion later ain't doing jack shit...honestly this "concession" couldve been done months ago

medicare has to be cut either way and the democrats already cut 500 billion

dollars out of medicare to pay for obama healthcare and give health care to younger

ppl. why are they so sensitive clinton cut medicare and nobody said anything

they better get that shit under control,before the republicans get control of that shit and privatized it.

and we already got higher taxes in obama care because there is a medicare tax

on divendends for people over 250,000 obama should just try and get through the next election

and let all the bush tax cuts expire in 2013 when he want have to worry about re election.

 

[thatni99ajahmal]

So basically this isnt going to change anything but pentagon cuts??

Yea that shit wont last long..

 

[JadaRoss]

obama stay winning

 

[tru_m.a.c]

medicare has to be cut either way and the democrats already cut 500 billion

dollars out of medicare to pay for obama healthcare and give health care to younger

ppl. why are they so sensitive clinton cut medicare and nobody said anything

they better get that shit under control,before the republicans get control of that shit and privatized it.

and we already got higher taxes in obama care because there is a medicare tax

on divendends for people over 250,000 obama should just try and get through the next election

and let all the bush tax cuts expire in 2013 when he want have to worry about re election.

republicans want no taxes period so they won't even let us live on that 250k or more shit so they ain't letting him live with that

and you and I both know, something is going to come up that will extend bush tax cuts....I refuse to sit here and say, "the republicans won't think of anything in 2 yrs to keep it going"

I'm for cutting medicare waste/fraud, but I don't think that's equal to defense spending/subsidies...not to mention cutting medicare doesn't solve why the cost keep going up

 

[Focal Point]

he fucked up unless he knows something we don't, them white boys just waiting for an opportunity to say "we gotta clean up the nigger's mess" No revenue increase smh, I feel as though if he had of made that clear to the "TPs" that the tax raise is on a group you don't belong in it might have gained a lot more support

 

[politicalthug202]

So basically this isnt going to change anything but pentagon cuts??

Yea that shit wont last long..

naw the new dude who running the pentagon leon pennata

is serious about cutting that shit.

 

[thatni99ajahmal]

naw the new dude who running the pentagon leon pennata

is serious about cutting that shit.

They want to cut waste which is fine i dont think they even realize that when they start cutting jobs and then end up paying more for a contractor we will be in the same boat again..

 

[Jonas.dini]

In political terms, he probably won with independents as far as selling the theatrics. I never thought triangulation was a smart approach, still don't, and as policy this sucks, I guess it could have been worse, but that's far from a win.

In general terms, Rep leadership was just negotiating, they love running up debt and chamber of commerce and wall street told them to raise the debt ceiling forever ago. Imo anyone surprised that they came to an 11th hour deal that was all cuts hasn't been paying attention.

 

[Focal Point]

sad shit... TP might just have ran the country into the ground for sure

 

[tru_m.a.c]

In political terms, he probably won with independents as far as selling the theatrics. I never thought triangulation was a smart approach, still don't, and as policy this sucks, I guess it could have been worse, but that's far from a win.

In general terms, Rep leadership was just negotiating, they love running up debt and chamber of commerce and wall street told them to raise the debt ceiling forever ago. Imo anyone surprised that they came to an 11th hour deal that was all cuts hasn't been paying attention.

Nope, just surprised how the dems folded.

I like how nobody realizes the chamber of commerce is a republican held institution........

 

[tru_m.a.c]

naw the new dude who running the pentagon leon pennata

is serious about cutting that shit.

You believe that? If you do I guess I have no choice but to agree with you

They want to cut waste which is fine i dont think they even realize that when they start cutting jobs and then end up paying more for a contractor we will be in the same boat again..

What!? Private is always better than government!!!!!!! There is no such thing as overpaying the private sector

 

[Focal Point]

Nope, just surprised how the dems folded.

I like how nobody realizes the chamber of commerce is a republican held institution........

I wonder if it's the dems trying to prove a point...

 

[thatni99ajahmal]

You believe that? If you do I guess I have no choice but to agree with you



What!? Private is always better than government!!!!!!! There is no such thing as overpaying the private sector

Im taking this as sarcasm lol

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I wonder if it's the dems trying to prove a point...

nah they ain't smart enough to pull an okie doke like that

the last great democratic chess move was when Obama pitted Michael Steele against Rush Limbaugh

Im taking this as sarcasm lol

most definitely lol

 

[earth two superman]

nah they ain't smart enough to pull an okie doke like that

the last great democratic chess move was when Obama pitted Michael Steele against Rush Limbaugh

yeah that was pretty funny. what did obama have to do with it though? by calling limbaugh out by name?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

yeah that was pretty funny. what did obama have to do with it though? by calling limbaugh out by name?

yeah

"As predicted Rush Limbaugh took the bait that Democrats laid out for him as today he went on the attack against the White House as he accused Barack Obama of trying to malign him and as an added bonus he attacked Michael Steele for calling him an entertainer."

I don't think ppl realize, but after Obama's election, we were talking about Republicans in the same sentence as the Whig Party....oh how things have changed

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Obama had niggas back pedaling and falling all over themselves:

Steele told CNN host D.L. Hughley in an interview aired Saturday night: “Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly.”

then

“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”