Arya Tsaddiq
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If anything...the fact that all these "ancient" civilization have a common story about a worldwide flood with little differences makes the story of the tower of Babel more plausible...
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MansaMusa67;6589275 said:
I'm sure shit happened; floods and plagues, but they attribute them to god or gods because they didn't know how to make sense of these.
There's no denying shit like that happened and happens.
But the overall stories of them being from gods are carried over into different languages and turned into their own faiths.
It's simple really, not that complicated to figure out why and how so many different people have these stories. Story jacking isn't new.
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fortyacres&amule;6588871 said:
1. Actually Noah was 600 years old when the flood came.
"Now Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of water came upon the earth." Genesis 7:1
2. It took Noah 120 years to build the arc. So simple math tells us that he was 480 when he started building.
"Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Genesis 6:3
There is a double fulfillment to the above verse as well. God gave man 120 years to repent while the arc was being built and God also reduced Man's lifespan to a maximum of 120 years, thus you see that after the flood man no longer lived to be 900+ years old, but man's life span gradually reduced to where the average age that some one lives is 70-80 years old.
"Seventy years are given to us! Some even live to eighty. But even the best years are filled with pain and trouble; soon they disappear, and we fly away." Psalm 90:10
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Stomp Johnson;6588925 said:
Meat wasn't eating by animals or humans until after the flood. Prior to the flood, both man and animals, only ate fruit, vegetables, and nuts.
"1Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. 3Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
4“But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being." Genesis 9:1-5
Amen.
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fortyacres&amule;6589005 said:
Katrina and the Asian tsunami were local events. God said that the rainbow would be a sign of His covenant to never again destroy ALL life with a flood. Key word ALL.
"12And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.” Genesis 9:12-16
Now I believe in the flood. Too many ancient civilizations have tales of it for it to be a myth.
But I never knew the bible had all that bullshit that made it seem like it could be part of The Simarillion. I believe in a higher power and all but some of that shit you just posted had me looking like this
But I never knew the bible had all that bullshit that made it seem like it could be part of The Simarillion. I believe in a higher power and all but some of that shit you just posted had me looking like this
The flood was a result of rain falling from above down to the earth for the first time ever.
Prior to that water came from many geysers across the globe
It rained from above for 40 days and 40 nights nonstop with no breaks in between. (the very first rain was nothing like even the worst rainfall on record... if God is setting this off then I'd imagine that it was 10+ times worse)
They geysers below were spitting out water full thrust nonstop.
The effect of all of this would cause massive erosion like none ever seen and could have potentially caused plates to move and either created new continents or cause them to shift further apart creating new oceans/seas/rivers/bays/lakes/marshland etc.
Think in your mind how long it takes to flood an area with a natural major thunderstorm with 3/4/5 hours of massive rainfall nonstop falling at a rate uncomparable to the first rain on the planet which set off Noahs flood?
Compare that to geysers across the globe on fullblast like never before running nonstop for 40 days and 40 nights nonstop with no break?
The first rain being like none other on record pouring at a capacity beyond measure for 40 days and 40 nights with no break?
http://beyondflannelgraph.wordpress.com/the-flood/how-long-did-the-flood-last/
http://beyondflannelgraph.wordpress.com/the-flood/how-long-did-the-flood-last/
The Bible says that Noah was 600 years old when the flood waters came upon the earth. God commanded Noah to bring his family and all the animals aboard the Ark and seven days later, it began to rain and God shut the door to the Ark. The Bible says that it all began “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” [Genesis 7:11]
It then began to rain for 40 days and nights. As the waters rose, the Ark was borne upon the waters with it. The waters covered all of the mountains by a depth of 15 cubits [about 22 feet 6 inches; the Ark itself was 30 cubits high, or 45 feet tall.]
After it rained that 40 days and nights, the waters prevailed on the earth for another 150 days [5 months] and everything that wasn’t aboard the Ark died. God made a might wind to pass over the earth and the waters began to recede. In fact, the Bible says that at the end of the 150 days of nothing but water, the Ark grounded itself on Mount Ararat. It was the 17th day of the 7th month of that year.
The waters continued to recede for a little over 2 months more, until on the 1st day of the 10th month, the tops of the mountains were exposed.
40 days after the tops of the mountains were seen, Noah sent forth a raven and a dove to see if the flood waters were abated. The dove returned to him, unable to find land, so he waited a week and sent it out again. This time, it came back with an olive leaf in its mouth. He waited yet one more week and sent it out one last time, but it did not return.
In the 601st year, 1st month and 1st day [on Noah's birthday in other words], he looked and saw that the “face of the ground” was dry. But apparently not yet firm. On the 2nd month and 27th day, the ground was dry and God commanded Noah and those aboard the Ark to leave it.
So if we calculate the time that passed between the point where God shut the door of the Ark until God commanded them to leave it:
Year 601 Month 2 Day 27 [End date]
- Year 600 Month 2 Day 17 [Begin Date]
= 1 Year 0 Months 10 Days
Prior to that water came from many geysers across the globe
It rained from above for 40 days and 40 nights nonstop with no breaks in between. (the very first rain was nothing like even the worst rainfall on record... if God is setting this off then I'd imagine that it was 10+ times worse)
They geysers below were spitting out water full thrust nonstop.
The effect of all of this would cause massive erosion like none ever seen and could have potentially caused plates to move and either created new continents or cause them to shift further apart creating new oceans/seas/rivers/bays/lakes/marshland etc.
Think in your mind how long it takes to flood an area with a natural major thunderstorm with 3/4/5 hours of massive rainfall nonstop falling at a rate uncomparable to the first rain on the planet which set off Noahs flood?
Compare that to geysers across the globe on fullblast like never before running nonstop for 40 days and 40 nights nonstop with no break?
The first rain being like none other on record pouring at a capacity beyond measure for 40 days and 40 nights with no break?
http://beyondflannelgraph.wordpress.com/the-flood/how-long-did-the-flood-last/
http://beyondflannelgraph.wordpress.com/the-flood/how-long-did-the-flood-last/
The Bible says that Noah was 600 years old when the flood waters came upon the earth. God commanded Noah to bring his family and all the animals aboard the Ark and seven days later, it began to rain and God shut the door to the Ark. The Bible says that it all began “In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” [Genesis 7:11]
It then began to rain for 40 days and nights. As the waters rose, the Ark was borne upon the waters with it. The waters covered all of the mountains by a depth of 15 cubits [about 22 feet 6 inches; the Ark itself was 30 cubits high, or 45 feet tall.]
After it rained that 40 days and nights, the waters prevailed on the earth for another 150 days [5 months] and everything that wasn’t aboard the Ark died. God made a might wind to pass over the earth and the waters began to recede. In fact, the Bible says that at the end of the 150 days of nothing but water, the Ark grounded itself on Mount Ararat. It was the 17th day of the 7th month of that year.
The waters continued to recede for a little over 2 months more, until on the 1st day of the 10th month, the tops of the mountains were exposed.
40 days after the tops of the mountains were seen, Noah sent forth a raven and a dove to see if the flood waters were abated. The dove returned to him, unable to find land, so he waited a week and sent it out again. This time, it came back with an olive leaf in its mouth. He waited yet one more week and sent it out one last time, but it did not return.
In the 601st year, 1st month and 1st day [on Noah's birthday in other words], he looked and saw that the “face of the ground” was dry. But apparently not yet firm. On the 2nd month and 27th day, the ground was dry and God commanded Noah and those aboard the Ark to leave it.
So if we calculate the time that passed between the point where God shut the door of the Ark until God commanded them to leave it:
Year 601 Month 2 Day 27 [End date]
- Year 600 Month 2 Day 17 [Begin Date]
= 1 Year 0 Months 10 Days
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Genesis 2:5–6 states that “the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground”
The Rainbow: as a new sign of a covenant from God to man after the Flood (Genesis 9:11-17), suggests that rain was experienced for the first time just before the flood and rainbows only after the flood.
Today’s Science: John Baumgardner, et.al. [ii] proposed the catastrophic plate tectonics model where during the onset of flood, the ocean floor rapidly lifted up to 6,500 feet (2,000 meters) due to an increase in temperature as horizontal movement of the tectonic plates accelerated resulting in massive flooding. This phenomenon depicts the breaking up of the “fountains of the great deep” described in Genesis 7:11.
Water Canopy and Windows of Heaven: Dillow [iii] described water canopy, made of vapor or ice in the atmosphere surrounding the earth. Inundation of the canopy as the source of all the water required to explain a global flood may also refer to the “windows of heaven being opened” in Genesis 7:11.
Water Canopy and the Greenhouse Effect: Dillow and Vardiman [iv] cited that vapor canopy caused a greenhouse effect before the flood which explains the growth of lush vegetation on the land all around the globe even with just the aid of mist, validated by the discovered coal seams in Antarctica containing vegetation.
No Need for Rain: Genesis 2:6 could reflect the annual flooding of the Nile River every spring and covered the tillable land of Egypt. Water was channeled from the Nile to the crop fields through irrigation to resolve the lack of rainfall needed for plant growth. [v]
Today’s Science: a prerequisite for rain – condensation nuclei (typically less than .0001 millimeter in diameter) was largely absent before the flood. Water vapor molecules in the air have lesser chance to collide and fuse together. Without them no rain can be produced. [vi]
Fountains of Great Deep: The “fountains of great deep” could also be seen as a series of volcanic eruptions with prodigious amounts of water (about 70% or more) bursting up through the ground supported by many volcanic rocks interspersed between the fossil layers in the rock record—layers that were obviously deposited during Noah’s Flood.
The Rainbow: as a new sign of a covenant from God to man after the Flood (Genesis 9:11-17), suggests that rain was experienced for the first time just before the flood and rainbows only after the flood.
Today’s Science: John Baumgardner, et.al. [ii] proposed the catastrophic plate tectonics model where during the onset of flood, the ocean floor rapidly lifted up to 6,500 feet (2,000 meters) due to an increase in temperature as horizontal movement of the tectonic plates accelerated resulting in massive flooding. This phenomenon depicts the breaking up of the “fountains of the great deep” described in Genesis 7:11.
Water Canopy and Windows of Heaven: Dillow [iii] described water canopy, made of vapor or ice in the atmosphere surrounding the earth. Inundation of the canopy as the source of all the water required to explain a global flood may also refer to the “windows of heaven being opened” in Genesis 7:11.
Water Canopy and the Greenhouse Effect: Dillow and Vardiman [iv] cited that vapor canopy caused a greenhouse effect before the flood which explains the growth of lush vegetation on the land all around the globe even with just the aid of mist, validated by the discovered coal seams in Antarctica containing vegetation.
No Need for Rain: Genesis 2:6 could reflect the annual flooding of the Nile River every spring and covered the tillable land of Egypt. Water was channeled from the Nile to the crop fields through irrigation to resolve the lack of rainfall needed for plant growth. [v]
Today’s Science: a prerequisite for rain – condensation nuclei (typically less than .0001 millimeter in diameter) was largely absent before the flood. Water vapor molecules in the air have lesser chance to collide and fuse together. Without them no rain can be produced. [vi]
Fountains of Great Deep: The “fountains of great deep” could also be seen as a series of volcanic eruptions with prodigious amounts of water (about 70% or more) bursting up through the ground supported by many volcanic rocks interspersed between the fossil layers in the rock record—layers that were obviously deposited during Noah’s Flood.
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just in time for the upcoming movie..
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reapin505;6590036 said:
"4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." Genesis 2:4-6
God irrigated the earth from the ground. Rain was foreign to the antediluvian people, that is until the door of the Arc was closed and the 1st rain drops fell. Amen.
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fortyacres&amule;6590053 said:
"4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." Genesis 2:4-6
the answers are right there in the Bible. Study to show yourself approved unto God my friend.
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fortyacres&amule;6590057 said:
Who is arguing? I thought we were having a discussion?
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fortyacres&amule;6590067 said:
What other source do you need? Look at any history book. There has never been another world-wide flood that destroyed all life on planet earth since the flood of Noah. Also, the next time it rains where you live, look in the sky and see the Rainbow. That is God telling you that He still remembers the covenant He made thousands of years ago after the flood.
Jesus loves you my friend, why do you resist Him?
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