Nas: The Indians saved the Pilgrim, And in return the Pilgrim killed them

[Ajackson17]

Christianity, adapted from Judaism, started in Africa?

Philosophy started in Africa even though the word is Latin in origin? Latin people are African? If you want to talk about Greeks studying Egyptian texts that's one thing but even then it's dubious because Plotinus was influenced by Arabs.

Also I was talking about who they stole it from, not the origins of everything.

Writing came from Africa. There are no such thing as an european written language. It's copied.

 

[jono]

I was definitely gonna make this same topic. "What Goes Around" is a classic.

 

[deathrowzorrow]

What Goes around is one of the best tracks ever made. it was straight rapping

 

[Bazz-B]

Shit happens like that all the time.

 

[rage]

Idk man, here I thought this was public knowledge. At least i'd hope so..

Thread should have been closed after this post.

 

[32DaysOfInfiniti]

Im just saying note the fact that while african slaves where being brutalized herded and broken, through legislation, it was recognized that they had fucked over the native americans pretty royally

Its sort of backwards to pass a civil law for any group of people while another is being mistreated on the same soil is all im really saying

And yes Christianity did come from Africa, consider that a good portion of middle east through much of our ancient history was considered what would be known as Eastern Africa so Arabs, Jews, Egyptians, Moors etc are all "african" in essence.

To know that all people came from somewhere and then say that the ensuing cultures were not influenced by them for whatever reason is pretty short sighted. Not every historical artifact is reliable you know

 

[sully]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

Fallacy of relevance. Nas' education level doesn't dictate whether or not that statement is true.

nah...at best you could try to pin an ad hominem on me, but even then, I addressed the issue at hand by qualifying my statement by saying that he may be right.

I'm just not taking Nas' word as truth on something he's not an expert in.

 

[sully]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

go "learn " it from a history book...

Where the hell do you think Nas gets his information from? I'd just rather read something from the expert than the regurtitator. Can't see how anyone would have a problem with that.

if you were getting a doctorate in something, would you go asking a 14 year old to tutor you in something he learned from a book? B/c that's basically what we're talking about when it comes to Nas.

 

[a_list]

Yo this shud be common knowlege....If listening to Nas was the first time cats learned about this, they werent paying attention in class

 

[Meta_Conscious]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

go "learn " it from a history book...

Where the hell do you think Nas gets his information from? I'd just rather read something from the expert than the regurtitator. Can't see how anyone would have a problem with that.

if you were getting a doctorate in something, would you go asking a 14 year old to tutor you in something he learned from a book? B/c that's basically what we're talking about when it comes to Nas.

Nah. I'm suggesting u go read a history book written by a historian.

 

[white715]

Christianity, adapted from Judaism, started in Africa?

Philosophy started in Africa even though the word is Latin in origin? Latin people are African? If you want to talk about Greeks studying Egyptian texts that's one thing but even then it's dubious because Plotinus was influenced by Arabs.

Also I was talking about who they stole it from, not the origins of everything.

Monotheism originated in Africa, not to mention the parallels between Jesus and Horus. And according to the Bible the Jewish people were the sons of Abraham who was a descendant of Ham a black man making them black also.

Philosophy started in Africa as well it may not have been called that but that is where it originated and Socrates himself was educated in Africa and that's where he adopted the idea to never write down his work it was from the African oral tradition.

There were empires in Africa back when Europeans were still in caves, most of that stuff they teach you in school is BS.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/457498/powerful-black-images

 

[Undergroundraplegend]

Definitely my favorite song by Nas and one of my top 10 hip hop songs of alltime. Classic shit.

I was thinking " What Goes Around" is a Top Ten Nas song post IWW.

Dont know about others but to me it is IMO.

 

[Broddie]

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

That´s my fav Nas song next to poison.

 

[Broddie]

That´s my fav Nas song next to poison.

"What Goes Around" IS "Poison".

 

[sully]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

I kno huh....it aint knowledge unless its coming from someone who got that white education.

Like folks cant self educate..

Dumb ass nigga.

Call me when this parallel and equal "black education" invents the internet or builds a spaceship to the moon.

Pretty much, if you think there's a "white education" and a "black education", you're failing in life. I'd just rather get my info from someone who's educated. Period.

But dumb ass niggas want to learn history and math from a rapper, like rhyming words with "twerk" makes him an expert in everything.

And, like it or not, but self-education is variable and impossible without the work of people who went through the system.

But kudos to those of you who think it's revolutionary for Nas to be regurgitating something you all probably should've learned in the 7th grade.

 

[sully]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

go "learn " it from a history book...

Where the hell do you think Nas gets his information from? I'd just rather read something from the expert than the regurtitator. Can't see how anyone would have a problem with that.

if you were getting a doctorate in something, would you go asking a 14 year old to tutor you in something he learned from a book? B/c that's basically what we're talking about when it comes to Nas.

Nah. I'm suggesting u go read a history book written by a historian.

so you respond to me by disagreeing and then suggesting I do what I already said i should do and have been saying others should do?

your post is contradicting itself.

 

[JerfyT]

The Indians.....

I like Nas music but that's an oxymoronic rap bar if I ever heard one.

The term American Indian is good enough for the

SMITHSONIAN Museum of the American Indian

http://nmai.si.edu/home/

Then it's good enough for rap.

Plus "Indian" rhymes with "saved the Pilgrim" waay better than "Native American" rhymes with "save the Pilgrim" on the beat.

We drop the first "I" which makes it non racist and only we are allowed to use the word

 

[Meta_Conscious]

i dunno...he may be right, but i'm not inclined to learn something from an 8th grade dropout

go "learn " it from a history book...

Where the hell do you think Nas gets his information from? I'd just rather read something from the expert than the regurtitator. Can't see how anyone would have a problem with that.

if you were getting a doctorate in something, would you go asking a 14 year old to tutor you in something he learned from a book? B/c that's basically what we're talking about when it comes to Nas.

Nah. I'm suggesting u go read a history book written by a historian.

so you respond to me by disagreeing and then suggesting I do what I already said i should do and have been saying others should do?

your post is contradicting itself.

Nah. U threw a dart at Nas. I said go learn common history from a book written by a historian.

 

[CracceR]

Fuck white culture.

What culture? They stole medicine from the Arabs, agriculture from the Italians, religious ideas from the Israelis, architecture and philosophy from the Greeks... white culture is basically "Invade, steal their ideas, rename shit, pretend we do it better."

greeks and italians are white u retard