Muhammad Ali...........RIP

[BangEm_Bart]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAsTzMquq0y/

My 2 role models of all time.

 

[D0wn]

Ali throwing his medal into the river is a myth... I dont think he ever did it, I think in the 90s the NOI even said it never happened...

Were u there?

 

[harry knucklez]

Keep fighting, Mike.

 

[water ur seeds]

Ali throwing his medal into the river is a myth... I dont think he ever did it, I think in the 90s the NOI even said it never happened...

Were u there?

No, like I said Ive just read books and articles...

 

[water ur seeds]

Just imagine what it would've been like if he didn't have Parkinson's disease; he would've been more active and vocal. He was cheated out of 30 years of his life just as we were.

If you think about it, you could argue his best boxing years were taken from him too...

 

[willhustle]

Just imagine what it would've been like if he didn't have Parkinson's disease; he would've been more active and vocal. He was cheated out of 30 years of his life just as we were.

Yeah man I don't like how they did Ali at the end of his career in the early 80's. Somebody should have stepped in and told him he didn't need to fight anymore. Don't get me started on the Holmes/Ali fight. One thing everybody can say about him that he was a true fighter.

 

[water ur seeds]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

 

[water ur seeds]

Just imagine what it would've been like if he didn't have Parkinson's disease; he would've been more active and vocal. He was cheated out of 30 years of his life just as we were.

Yeah man I don't like how they did Ali at the end of his career in the early 80's. Somebody should have stepped in and told him he didn't need to fight anymore. Don't get me started on the Holmes/Ali fight. One thing everybody can say about him that he was a true fighter.

People involved in Ali/Holmes should IMO of been reprimanded... It was fckn disgusting...

 

[NeighborhoodNomad.]

In Life we are ALL either examples of what to do or what not to do.

Muhammad Ali was the very example of what to do. All the way through till the end.

Spoiler

I just want to thank You Muhammad Ali for being such an honorable Man and Warrior in all aspects of Life. You stood for Righteousness and Justice and never compromised. I know You won't read this but I'll never get a chance to tell you that and I always wanted to and so much more. Thank you. I Love you. *Salute*. RIP

 

[D0wn]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

 

[D0wn]

Just imagine what it would've been like if he didn't have Parkinson's disease; he would've been more active and vocal. He was cheated out of 30 years of his life just as we were.

Yeah man I don't like how they did Ali at the end of his career in the early 80's. Somebody should have stepped in and told him he didn't need to fight anymore. Don't get me started on the Holmes/Ali fight. One thing everybody can say about him that he was a true fighter.

Ali was a grown ass man... Ali made his own decision. The thing we all love about Ali. We as in BLK PPL, was that Ali was headstrong ... He was head strong through the good, and unfortunately through the bad.

We see the same thing with Kanye, the same thing that made him say what he said about Katrina, is the same thing that made him say the dumb shit we dont like to hear from him.

We have to take the good with the bad.

 

[water ur seeds]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

 

[_Goldie_]

Ether @ the 2:00 mark for any fuckboy tryna call Ali out on the Draft situation.

 

[_Goldie_]

Daylyt - Ali

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

Frazier didn't criticize him until AFTER Ali betrayed him...

 

[water ur seeds]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

Frazier didn't criticize him until AFTER Ali betrayed him...

My original point was he did criticise him just like most people!!! To which I was told I was 'talking out my ass'...

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

Frazier didn't criticize him until AFTER Ali betrayed him...

My original point was he did criticise him just like most people!!! To which I was told I was 'talking out my ass'...

I think Down was saying when the world turned on Ali after refusing to go to Vietnam...Frazier looked out for him

Frazier didn't get on his "fuck Ali" shit until after the betrayal

 

[D0wn]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

Frazier didn't criticize him until AFTER Ali betrayed him...

My original point was he did criticise him just like most people!!! To which I was told I was 'talking out my ass'...

Lump everybody in the same pile with no context bruh.........

 

[Angeles1son85]

Smh msnbc had holmes on the phone for interview and asked if he felt bad for that fight and how hard he was hittin ali and after the fight ali came to his.locker room holmes said i love u and ali said if u did why u beat me like that lol holmes said everyone laugh and ali never held a grudge and msnbc woman said do u feel those hits u gave him hurt him and impacted him later in.life holmes said he was a man and those hits woulda.knocked anyone else out and she asked again if he feels bad for those hits holmes hung up smh why even ask that shit

 

[water ur seeds]

Who cares what white people think? Majority of those idiots calling him a draft dodger and spitting all that patriotic bullshit would never go enlist after 9/11 or any other conflict. Voted for George W Bush and will vote for Trump, both well known draft dodgers.

My dad did two tours in Vietnam and he loved Ali..many brothas who served did.

The war was bullshit anyway, my father used to talk about that..

It wasnt even just white people, it was basically non Muslims that criticised him, from Frazier, Foreman, Louis, Patterson to everyday people... Every time he fought (in america) it was always Ali vs USA... Boxing always tries to make a Good vs Evil (louis v schmeling or johnson v jeffries for example)...

U talking out your ass... when the muslims left him for dead. Frazier literally took care of him.

No you are talking out your ass... Frazier said some vile things about Ali when Ali's disease took over him!!! And hated him to the death... They WERE cool, then fell out, get your facts right...

'But don't expect such reverence from the family of Joe Frazier. The Philadelphia boxing legend died in 2011 at the age of 67. He hated Ali until his death. Unlike most Americans, Joe Frazier was never able to forgive and forget...and for good reason. Frazier took the brunt of Ali's showmanship, race bating and insults. And all of that happened after Frazier reached out to Ali when he was in exile for refusing induction into the United States armed forces. Frazier even sent him money on more than one occasion to help him survive.

Ali repaid him by calling Frazier an "Uncle Tom," trying to rally blacks against the Philly boxer by portraying him as subservient to whites. Ali often called Frazier "ugly" and once, during an news conference he punched a rubber gorilla repeatedly, while saying, "It's going to be a thrilla' in Manila, when I kill that gorilla." Ali defeated Frazier in the Philippines to win the heavyweight title.

Ali has been forgiven for his trash-talking by most as a necessary evil in boxing promotion. The words stung Frazier until the day he died.'

In Frazier's 1996 autobiography he wrote this of Ali, "Truth is, I'd like to rumble with that sucker again -- beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus. ... Now people ask me if I feel bad for him, now that things aren't going so well for him. Nope. I don't. Fact is, I don't give a damn. They want me to love him, but I'll open up the graveyard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him."

When a Parkinson Syndrome afflicted Ali tugged the heart strings of the world by lighting the Olympic flame in 1996. Frazier was not impressed, "It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in."



SOURCE:
http://www.examiner.com/article/philly-s-joe-frazier-hated-muhammed-ali

U posted that all to say after.... all this happened after the fact.

The fck are you on about??? Dont turn this into a negative argument thread, my point was Frazier criticised Ali just like ALOT other non Muslim people in America that didnt like Ali... And he hated Ali until the day he died...

But outside of America, it seemed people could careless about the draft thing or his religious faith...

Frazier didn't criticize him until AFTER Ali betrayed him...

My original point was he did criticise him just like most people!!! To which I was told I was 'talking out my ass'...

I think Down was saying when the world turned on Ali after refusing to go to Vietnam...Frazier looked out for him

Frazier didn't get on his "fuck Ali" shit until after the betrayal

I wasnt on about that though, either way, I dont wanna derail the thread...