Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On 'Em

[moyo]

Death Row had the rap game shook. They disrespected left and right and who from the east had the nerve to diss and name names? Tim Dog, that's it.

Death Row artist got their trailer shot up and didn't respond. My bad, they kick buildings down on green screen.

And jus that lil gesture alone fucked y'all up for years. Lol & Prodigy was the main one crying.

 

[5 Grand]

Just because your region had them dont mean everybody had access all over the country.



But you right I'll just keep getting at 5 Grand about it. We need to get back to the topic tho what is it again? Oh yeah...Pee's mythical ether verse and Puff Daddy's old hot dog water perfume.

@ the bolded. That's the point I'm trying to make, if your region wasn't hip to the mix tapes coming out of New York then you lived in a hick town.

Its like regular TV vs Cable. Regular TV (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox) was the albums that were released in retail stores and getting played on the radio and BET/MTV. Cable was the mixtape scene (MTV, BET, HBO, Showtime, ESPN, CNN). Cats in your region were watching regular TV and thinking their favorite show was the best thing on TV while people in the Tri-state were watching cable.

 

[moyo]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

 

[5 Grand]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

 

[hiphop12345]

Death row was heavy in places that had no culture of its own, and diddy had the whole east coast plus more if death row was so major they would still be relevant somehow, wen u look back they were just another good label with a good run like g unit, Mmg, rocafella cash money, but the thing about them is some way some how they're still relevant, diddy still doing his thing, Suge in jail pac dead snoop n Dre left, so how was a war won?

That's a great point. Puffy had to convince the area that knew the culture the most, that what he was delivering was legit and he always got hated on.

 

[hiphop12345]

double post.

 

[moyo]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

 

[hiphop12345]

Death Row had the rap game shook. They disrespected left and right and who from the east had the nerve to diss and name names? Tim Dog, that's it.

Death Row artist got their trailer shot up and didn't respond. My bad, they kick buildings down on green screen.

And jus that lil gesture alone fucked y'all up for years. Lol & Prodigy was the main one crying.

NY actually got bigger after that, the West was down outside of Dre for almost a decade. Even Game had to get put on by 50. Rocafella, Ruff Ryder, Murder Inc, Nas, Terror Squad, Dipset, G-unit, etc etc all happen after the Green Screen.

 

[_God_]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

You were receiving the most mainstream of mainstream music in Mississippi in 96

 

[moyo]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

You were receiving the most mainstream of mainstream music in Mississippi in 96

Naw fam. We were receiving the usual mainstream that the rest of the country was listening to. But I was listening to Master P, UGK, 8ball and MJG, Outkast and Goodie Mob, Tela, Bone thugs and the geto boysback in '96. Unless u lived in my state or in my house u can't tell me what I listened to or didn't playboy.

 

[kingblaze84]

Hit Em Up>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No question about it, 2pac ethered them with just a few lines

 

[_God_]

Hit Em Up>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No question about it, 2pac ethered them with just a few lines

Ether how? They went on to match their initial success 3 albums after that diss, it had no affect on mobb deep, ot prodigy career

 

[KamPushMe]

Makavelians

Smh I tell ya

 

[Sweat jones]

Tupacs fans are something else. To them he is like Jesus christ but lyrically Mobb Deep got at him while he only really could diss them with a few throwaway lines about a sickness of Prodigy but the mobb exposed his fragilness with the robbery and the rape allegations that where floating about at the time if you where around at the time which most Pac stans were not they would know that the lines in the mobb song were quite x rated at the time and the beat was viscious.

And im from london so all those people talking about it was only a local diss are wrong. Mobb Deep had a cult following all around the world at the time because lyrically not to many could fuck with P not even jayz and production wise not to many kind fuck with Havoc.

Drop a gem on em is a maserpiece lyrically and production wise. Hit em up was hugh in shook value lyrically it was weak and the production was even worse

 

[Sweat jones]

At the time =)

 

[NoCompetition]

This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.

 

[moyo]

This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.

That's the whole point be been trying to make all weekend. I like Mobb deep, but in no way was "Drop a gem on em" anywhere near as impactful as "Hit em up", and in no way did "Drop a gem on em" Ether Pac In any way, shape or form.

 

[5 Grand]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.

In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.

The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo Wop's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.

Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;

4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.

The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.

Somethin For That A$$ - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.

Here's an interview where Doo Wop discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;

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Action Pac -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/

DJ Boo The Barber -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/

DJ Buckwild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/

DJ Brucie B -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/

DJ Capone -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/

DJ Chubby Chubb -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/

DJ Clue -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/

DJ Cutmaster C -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/

Doo Wop -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

Ron G -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/

DJ S&S -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/

Tony Touch -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/

DJ Whoo Kid -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/

Funkmaster Flex -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/

J Love -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/

Mister Cee -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/

Starchild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/

Stretch Armstrong -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/

The X- Executioners -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/

^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/

 

[NoCompetition]

This is an interesting thread because really there is no argument. Once it gets to the point where people are arguing that Hit em up had no effect or impact...thats when it gets ridiculous. Yes it definitely had an impact. Its known as the harshest and most well known diss ever...Not sayin Drop a gem...not saying anything about it but its definitely lesser known. It does no good to argue against reality. that said I agree with the ones who said M D and other NY acts went on to still have success. Thats also true. Its called being objective instead of emotional and denying reality. Hit em up definitely affected how people looked at Mobb deep (look at all the testing incidents dude had after that) and the others but at the same time it gave them attention too. Regardless of the emotions objectively Hit em up was the bigger song generally speaking by a wide margin impact wise and popularity they arent even really comparable.

That's the whole point be been trying to make all weekend. I like Mobb deep, but in no way was "Drop a gem on em" anywhere near as impactful as "Hit em up", and in no way did "Drop a gem on em" Ether Pac In any way, shape or form.

Yeah man I dont think anybody was sayin they sucked or anything like that. Its just simply speaking reality.

 

[_God_]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.

In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.

The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo Wop's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.

Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;

4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.

The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.

Somethin For That A$$ - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.

Here's an interview where Doo Wop discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;

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Action Pac -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/

DJ Boo The Barber -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/

DJ Buckwild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/

DJ Brucie B -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/

DJ Capone -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/

DJ Chubby Chubb -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/

DJ Clue -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/

DJ Cutmaster C -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/

Doo Wop -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

Ron G -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/

DJ S&S -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/

Tony Touch -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/

DJ Whoo Kid -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/

Funkmaster Flex -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/

J Love -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/

Mister Cee -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/

Starchild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/

Stretch Armstrong -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/

The X- Executioners -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/

^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/

Zackly my point