Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On 'Em

[moyo]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.

In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.

The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo Wop's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.

Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;

4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.

The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.

Somethin For That A$$ - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.

Here's an interview where Doo Wop discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;

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Action Pac -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/

DJ Boo The Barber -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/

DJ Buckwild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/

DJ Brucie B -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/

DJ Capone -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/

DJ Chubby Chubb -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/

DJ Clue -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/

DJ Cutmaster C -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/

Doo Wop -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

Ron G -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/

DJ S&S -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/

Tony Touch -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/

DJ Whoo Kid -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/

Funkmaster Flex -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/

J Love -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/

Mister Cee -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/

Starchild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/

Stretch Armstrong -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/

The X- Executioners -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/

^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/

No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the shit back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin dirty with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us.

 

[moyo]

And of course u guys are gonna get more exclusive stuff in New York because of your location. New York is the media Mecca of the world with all of the record complaines and industry connections. Where I'm from we grassroots, and underground and getting the mainstream of what's popular wherever the artist is from. That's why I say I love hip hop as a whole, I'm more bias to the south and west, but I got love and respect for the east because I had to listen to it all growing up.

 

[T. Sanford]

Fuck outta here wit that hick town shit, them wack ass do wop and Funk flex hogan mixtapes that y'all ass was buyin wit ya Dutchess from the bodega don't mean shjt in the grand scheme of things. Pac still killed Mobb deep and Drop a gem on em was still overrated.

Mobb Deep pulled Drop A Gem On Em from the radio because 2Pac got murdered.

@Moyo, where are you from? What were you doing in 1996?

Mississippi and I was listening to the music and forming an opinion and gettin pussy as a high school freshman. Lol

Don't take this as a diss, but consider this; In Mississippi you and your friends were listening to your local Top 40/R&B station, reading The Source once a month, watching MTV and BET every afternoon. Thats how you were exposed to music. If you saw a video you liked and The Source gave the album a 4 mic (or better) rating chances are, you copped.

In New York, the DJs had connections to the record labels and the artists. They had personal friendships with the artists. In the mid 90s, the New York Djs had a pretty decent position on the totem pole. You could compare a New York mixtape DJ in the 90s to a webmaster or a blogger in the 2000s who has his own website and a connection to some industry insiders. In other words, the mixtape DJs in New York had access to music that didn't get reviewed by The Source, didn't have a video on MTV or BET and never got officially released so the Top 40 and R&B/Hip Hop stations wouldn't play it. There was music circulating on mix tapes that was never officially released.

The best example of the mid 90s mixtape phenomenon is the Intro on Doo Wop's 95 Live mixtape. There were 22 minutes of freestyles before the tape started. That had never been done before. 95 Live Part 2 was just as dope.

Other examples of mid 90s mix tape phenomenons are;

4,5,6 - DJ Clue. This was the first New York mixtape to consist of entirely music that was unreleased. It was all exclusive material by well known artists.

The Best Of Biggie - Mr Cee. This was the first artist mixtape. A lot of people think that 50 Cent's G Unit is the Future is the first artist mixtape but Mr Cee and Biggie's mixtape preceded it by 6 years. This tape contains all songs that weren't on Ready to Die or Life After Death.

Somethin For That A$$ - DJ S&S. I had this in the fall of 1993. It had Who Am I by Snoop months before it was officially released. It also had Come Clean by Jeru The Damaja.

Here's an interview where Doo Wop discusses how he got started in mix tapes, his relationship with certain artists and the feedback he got from certain West Coast artists;

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Action Pac -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-action-pac/

DJ Boo The Barber -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-boo-tha-barber/

DJ Buckwild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-buckwild/

DJ Brucie B -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-brucie-b/

DJ Capone -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-capone/

DJ Chubby Chubb -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-chubby-chub/

DJ Clue -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-clue/

DJ Cutmaster C -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-cutmaster-c/

Doo Wop -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

Ron G -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ron-g/

DJ S&S -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-ss/

Tony Touch -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-tony-touch/

DJ Whoo Kid -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-whoo-kid/

Funkmaster Flex -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/funkmaster-flex/

J Love -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/j-love/

Mister Cee -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mister-cee/

Starchild -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/starchild/

Stretch Armstrong -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/stretch-armstrong/

The X- Executioners -http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/the-x-ecutioners/

^^^ Those are the mixtape DJs that I'm familiar with, but here's the homepage to that website. They have an entire 90s mixtape database. They have mixtape DJs that I've never heard of;
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/mixtape-database/

No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the shit back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin dirty with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us.

 

[5 Grand]

Here's another Doo Wop interview on Unkut.com

Robbie: You were the only person who really called Lil’ Wayne out when he shat on mixtapes. It was kinda ironic, wasn’t it?

Doo Wop: Exactly, like how could you do that? And he’s dope to me! The day after I did that, I still played his shit at a party, because that’s what the people want! If you just Google the word ‘mixtapes’, I won’t come-up right now at the top page – Kid Capri won’t even come-up! It’ll be pictures of Lil’ Wayne! He’s dope, he deserves all the fame he gets, but it was just real arrogant and unnecessary [when he was interviewed by Foundation Mag]. Why would you even do that? I did something – he probably never even heard it – but whatever. I just did it to stand-up for the DJ’s. These dude’s just let that shit slide like it’s OK. It didn’t make sense. If I wasn’t me, and a DJ made a record standing up for DJ’s, I’d play the shit out of that record! I never heard it on the radio – Flex never played it. Enuff didn’t play it. DJ’s that I was cool with, and I’m standin’ up for y’all too! Even one time? He shitted on y’all! He’s like, ‘Mixtape DJ’s can suck my dick!’ That’s what he said! First of all, you’re not gonna say nothing. Second of all, somebody else says something, you’re not gonna support it, but you play his shit right after that…
http://www.unkut.com/2009/06/doo-wop-the-unkut-interview-pt-1-95-live/

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died

 

[5 Grand]

No offense taken, and what u said had some truths to it, but not totally. One assumption u made that was incorrect was about me copping albums or learning about music from the Source magazine. I've never let the Source be the guide for my hip hop decisions. Did I read it? Yes, all teenagers and kids growing up in the 90's did, but I never copped an album because the Source gave it 5 mics. If anything, I always felt like the Source was bias towards the East coast because it always low graded my favorite Mc's from the south. As far as BET and MTV goes same thing. Of course I watched em, especially BET cause it was the shit back then, but a lot of the artists I really liked besides Pac, Snoop,Bone, etc, didn't get much video play on those stations. Master P and No limit had maybe 1 or 2 video at that time, UGK went gold in '96 wit Ridin dirty with no video play, 8ball and MJG barely any video play, Hell Geto boys and Outkast barely got video play and they were clearly the most established Southern artist at the time. We relied on word of mouth and what sounded good to us.

Yeah, you relied on word of mouth, but there was some stuff that you just weren't exposed to. I mean if you didn't get it from the radio, The Source, BET and/or MTV then where did you get it from?

My point is that people in New York were exposed to The Source, BET and MTV but there was a whole alternate universe that New Yorkers were exposed to; mixtapes. By your own admission, cats around your way in Mississippi didn't even know that the mixtape scene existed.

The general consensus in this thread is that Hit EM Up was a shocking, monumental, game changer and a GOAT diss, but the people making this claim had no idea that there was a mixtape renaissance in Harlem and that people in the Tri State were focused on copping that new mixtape that contained music that wouldn't be released for another 2-3 months.

Its not that Hit Em Up wasn't a shocking diss, its just that cats in the Tri-State were focused on something else altogether. In hindsight, Hit Em Up was just a a blip on New York's radar. The hottest thing to come out of the mid 90s was Doo Wop's 95 Live tape imo, not anything from Death Row or Bad Boy.

 

[5 Grand]

Another way to look at it was Hit Em Up was like the Pearl Harbor attack. It came out of nowhere and devastated Hawaii.

But in hindsight, the Pearl Harbor attack wasn't THAT devastating.

 

[Javon803]

Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died

Nigga hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh

 

[hiphop12345]

Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died

Nigga hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh

Remember how 50 cent diss towards Ja Rule picked up momentum as he went on? Well maybe Drop a gem would of did that but Pac died and it put a end to that kind of energy.

 

[moyo]

Another way to look at it was Hit Em Up was like the Pearl Harbor attack. It came out of nowhere and devastated Hawaii.

But in hindsight, the Pearl Harbor attack wasn't THAT devastating.

Ok bruh, whatever u say. U can try to downplay "Hit em up" all y'all want too, but that shit was monumental. I know for a fact that it bothered Prodigy n Biggie, & had a whole coast in its feelings. It's been 20 years & whole lot has changed but ya can't take away the history n the waves that rippled after that record first cane out. Good debate tho, I'm glad we could talk about this shit like grown men.

 

[5 Grand]

Another way to look at it was Hit Em Up was like the Pearl Harbor attack. It came out of nowhere and devastated Hawaii.

But in hindsight, the Pearl Harbor attack wasn't THAT devastating.

Ok bruh, whatever u say. U can try to downplay "Hit em up" all y'all want too, but that shit was monumental. I know for a fact that it bothered Prodigy n Biggie, & had a whole coast in its feelings. It's been 20 years & whole lot has changed but ya can't take away the history n the waves that rippled after that record first cane out. Good debate tho, I'm glad we could talk about this shit like grown men.

So was the Pearl Harbor attack.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died

Nigga hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh

Caping? nigga the only time I ever see you post to defend pacs honor, other than suck pac dick what else do you do on the IC?

Anyway, its not "caping" its true, what DJ or radio station is going to keep playing a diss record about someone that JUST died? especially a beloved rapper like pac with a the biggest bitch ass fanbase that youre proving to be true? smh youre a moron

 

[Javon803]

Drop a gem on em came out just before pac died. Of course the song won't take off. Who would care about some hip hop beef at that point when dude just died

Nigga hit me up took off the minute pac dropped it quit your caping smh

Remember how 50 cent diss towards Ja Rule picked up momentum as he went on? Well maybe Drop a gem would of did that but Pac died and it put a end to that kind of energy.

I don't see it and I like drop a gem on em actually but I don't see it having the same impact as hit me up and I been a mobb deep fan for years but to me they never been on pacs level

 

[5 Grand]

Honestly, I always thought Big's Last freestyle on The Wake Up Show was the highlight of the beef. While the beef escalated from the Dogg Pound's trailer getting shot up, to 2Pac getting robbed at Quad City, to Pac thinking Who Shot Ya was about him, to Hit 'em Up to Drop A Gem On Em, I thought Big reciting those two verses from Long Kiss Goodnight and You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills You on the Wake Up Show was the grand finale of the beef. Those two verses were clearly subliminals about 2Pac. Everybody in the room was thinking the same thing whilee Big was spitting those verses. You can hear the reaction from the people in the room.

And I always thought those verses sounded better over the Hell On Earth beat than the Life After Death versions (Its interesting to note that Big was rapping over Mobb Deep's Hell On Earth Beat).

Long Kiss Goodnight

Uhh.. I'm flamin gats, aimin at, these fuckin

maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the

game is that? Like they hustle backwards

I smoke Blackwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me

Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy

You're bleedin lovely, wit'chyo, spirit above me

or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky

Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me

Rest where the worms and the weak be

My nine flies, baptize, rap guys

With the Holy Ghost, I put holes in most

You hold your toast shaky, slippin tryin to break me

Look what you made me do, brains blew

My team in the marine-blue, six Coupe

Skied it out, weeded out, cleanin out -- the block

for distances, givin long kisses BITCH

You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills You

Niggaz in my faction don't like askin questions

Strictly gun testin, coke measurin

Givin pleasure in the Benz-ito

Hittin fanny, spendin chips at Manny's

Hope you creeps got receipts, my peeps get dirty like cleats

Run up in your crib, wrap you up in your Polo sheets

Six up in your wig piece, nigga decease

MWA, may you rest in peace

With my Sycamore style, more sicker than yours

Four-four, and fifty-four draw

as my pilot, steers my Leer, yes my dear

Shit's official, only, the Feds I fear

Here's a tissue, stop your blood clot cryin

The kids, the dog, everybody dyin, no lyin

So don't you get suspicious

I'm Big Dangerous you're just a Lil Vicious

As I leave my competition, respirator style

Climb the ladder to success escalator style

Hold y'all breath, I told y'all -- death

controls y'all, Big don't fold y'all, uhh

I spit phrases that'll thrill you

You're nobody til somebody kills you


I know this has been done a million times but that Wake Up Show Freestyle was a perfect way to go out. If you're gonna go out, go out with both guns blazing!!!

 

[smp4life]

Lmao @ THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE WINNING are you fuckin serious? Your hate for westcoast legendary music is that deep? BTW you forgot E 40 was making his mark, we had the Likwid Crew also, we Had Ice Cube and above the Law, underground dope cats likr Rass Kass and Dialated People's, Death Row was just at the for front but that's definately not all the west had.

And You're disqualified from the convo just attempting to slide corny ass Flex Hogan in there like he's fuckin wit somebody. What artist was killing those tape? Please dont come back and say Jeru the damager or somebody. Foh

So instead of buying All Eyes on me I shoulda Bought a Doo wop tape with Jeru, Chino Xl's one verse and maybe if Im lucky a lost Prodigy verse that God claim was suppose to crack the west coast and some complimentary Sean Jean perfume.

No thanks bruh!! Keep ya mixtapes filled with nobodies and ya toilet water cologne, im good. We didn't need Doo Wop we had Sway & king Tech Saturday nights at midnight.

Here's the thing, the mix tapes that were coming out in the mid 90s would have the tracks on All Eyes On Me before the album dropped. If All Eyes On Me was released on February 13, 1996, if you bought a mixtape at the end of January you'd have 3 or 4 songs from All Eyes On Me.

California was a hick town compared to New York. Mixtape DJs in New York were releasing West Coast Hip Hop faster than the West Coast labels. I remember walking down 125th st and seeing all the Mackevelli posthumous albums on CD-Rs.

My point is that the mixtape DJs in New York were getting material weeks, if not months, before it was officially released.

You guys are comparing an album like Doggystyle or All Eyes On Me to a mixtape (or maybe I'm the one making the comparison) but the mix tapes had the album cuts from Doggystyle and All Eyes On Me months prior to those albums release.

Here's a tape I remember bumping at the Northeastern University dorms in the winter of 1994, smoking blunts and building with the Gods;

Spring One - Doo Wop
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8i7i6xaz9f5x810/Doo+Wop+-+Spring+1.rar

You've gone stark raving mad if you don't think this tape is better than anything Death Row ever released.

you have a lot of hip-hop knowledge 5g, but to call CA a "hick-town" is just dumb east coast-bias. L.A. is the industry capitol and Cali had hip-hop on smash in the 90s to now. Not just DR. Yes NYC had a mix-tape scene culture but that shit was LOCAL until 50 and the internet blew that up in the 2000s. fall back.

 

[smp4life]

I don't give a damn how many mix tapes y'all dropped didn't none of that shit bang as hard as any album Death row dropped in the 90's. Regardless to how y'all wanna re-write history, Drop a gem on em and whatever mixtape y'all dropped didn't have the global and cultural impact that Hit em up or anything that Pac did in 1996. Point blank period.

Yeah but you guys (the other 47 states) didn't even know what was going on in the Tri-State. And people in the Tri-State didn't know or care what was coming out on Death Row or the other 47 states.

You can rep your set, throw up gang signs and crip walk all you want, but cats in New York didn't care about the West Coast. If ya'll dropped something hot it would make a mixtape, otherwise the Tri-state had its own culture and buying West Coast rap albums wasn't something that we did.

That's the ether that burns so slow; The fact that the New York didn't care about the West Coast. Its not like a New York nigga would buy a West Coast album and not like it, its more like a New York Nigga would pick up a copy of The Source and see some West Coast cat with a perm and think 'what the fuck?' The West wanted to go back and forth and make diss records while New York rappers had their own culture that the West didn't even know about. A New York nigga would go to 125th st and cop some mix tapes while everybody in the other states are waiting in line at Sam Goody or Tower Records on a Monday night waiting for 12:01am to be the first person to buy a retail album.

^^^ @ the bolded. If you didn't catch that then you weren't there.

No one is arguing that NYC is on NYC's dick. West Side Connection spoke on that on their Bow Down album and plenty of west coast artists got mad when they got spins all over the country except for NYC. West coast got love for east coast music too so it stings even more so. What's your point? Just cuz NYC is listening to their little mixtapes that NO ONE ELSE in the country is listening to doesn't mean they are winning.

 

[smp4life]

I'm not even from the west, I'm from the south. But that's that arrogant bullshit attitude that makes people say fuck New York. Trust me, as much as y'all didn't care about anything coming from the other 47 states, we weren't concerned about shit coming from New York. From our vantage point Mobb deep and the rest of the niggas from NY got sonned during that shit, and all the mixtapes and unreleased erased mythical verses won't change our minds on that.

@ the bolded. But from New York's vantage point mixtape DJs were dropping freestyles and exclusive material 2 months before it was officially released to the radio, video and retail channels. There's stuff on those mix tapes that to this day have never been officially released (e.g. Doo Wop's 95 Live part 1 and part 2 mix tapes)

Once you put retail sales in the equation then it may have appeared as though Death Row was outselling the best New York artists, until Bad Boy sold 30 million units in 1997 alone;

• Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down (single) – Puff Daddy & Ma$e 4X Platinum

• Hypnotize (single) – Notorious B.I.G. – Platinum

• I’ll Be Missing You (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 3X Platinum

• Its All About The Benjamins (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family - Platinum

• Been Around The World (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family– 2X Platinum

• Life After Death (album) – Notorious B.I.G. 10X Platinum

• No Way Out (album) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 7X Platinum

• Harlem World (album) – Ma$e – 4X Platinum

pffft fuck outta here with singles dude. DR dropped classic albums and a double album.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

I don't give a damn how many mix tapes y'all dropped didn't none of that shit bang as hard as any album Death row dropped in the 90's. Regardless to how y'all wanna re-write history, Drop a gem on em and whatever mixtape y'all dropped didn't have the global and cultural impact that Hit em up or anything that Pac did in 1996. Point blank period.

Yeah but you guys (the other 47 states) didn't even know what was going on in the Tri-State. And people in the Tri-State didn't know or care what was coming out on Death Row or the other 47 states.

You can rep your set, throw up gang signs and crip walk all you want, but cats in New York didn't care about the West Coast. If ya'll dropped something hot it would make a mixtape, otherwise the Tri-state had its own culture and buying West Coast rap albums wasn't something that we did.

That's the ether that burns so slow; The fact that the New York didn't care about the West Coast. Its not like a New York nigga would buy a West Coast album and not like it, its more like a New York Nigga would pick up a copy of The Source and see some West Coast cat with a perm and think 'what the fuck?' The West wanted to go back and forth and make diss records while New York rappers had their own culture that the West didn't even know about. A New York nigga would go to 125th st and cop some mix tapes while everybody in the other states are waiting in line at Sam Goody or Tower Records on a Monday night waiting for 12:01am to be the first person to buy a retail album.

^^^ @ the bolded. If you didn't catch that then you weren't there.

Just cuz NYC is listening to their little mixtapes that NO ONE ELSE in the country is listening to doesn't mean they are winning.

Told you niggas to stop speaking for the whole country, this was just proven to not be true on the page before this of this thread

try again

 

[smp4life]

Death Row had the rap game shook. They disrespected left and right and who from the east had the nerve to diss and name names? Tim Dog, that's it.

Death Row artist got their trailer shot up and didn't respond. My bad, they kick buildings down on green screen.

Um, what you want them to do? Randomly spray up times square? I don't think it was known who shot at them.

 

[smp4life]

P on Pac's dick still.

That's Pac on the hook right?