Miley Cyrus doesn't listen to hip hop anymore because it's "misogynistic"

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fortyacres;c-9768119 said:
LUClEN;c-9768029 said:
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playmaker88;c-9767541 said:
Whatever name you want to call.. a movement where women would want equality/equitable treatment, civl protections .. so on and so forth would have.. eventually have come to fruition..., Someone alluded to that point. it probably would have took on a different yet similar shape. So what are you really arguing bout.. the label?

Most don't even know what they're railing against when they say they hate feminism. Anyone who can't believe that the mere concept of women wanting to be on equal social standing with men would have eventually began no matter what name you call it is being willfully ignorant.

Women were treated poorly all over the world. If what you're saying is true we would have seen feminism all over the world. Instead, it's mostly been in white countries.

It was and its well documented

Where was the feminism outside of the West?

You need to start read and research the following countries and people in the 17/18/19th centuries:

Egypt (read up on Huda Sha'arawi or Qasim Amin)

Iran (research Jam'iyat-e Nesvan-e Vatankhah)

Japan ( read up on Fusae Ichikawa)

China (He Zhen ,Yu Zhengxie and Yuan Mei.

India (read up on Savitribai Phule or Tarabai Shinde)

Africa (not a country obviously) women like Adelaide Casely-Hayford, the Sierra Leonian women’s rights activist referred, Charlotte Maxeke who in 1918 founded the Bantu Women’s League in South Africa.Ndate Yalla Mbodj, Nzinga , Nehanda etc.

its not hard dude all you gatta is library this shit or do your googles.Its obsurd to assume womens rights are solely exclusive to western ideology.

I'm on mobile. It's also not my claim to defend. It's not "obsord", bro: if you don't support your claim it amounts to nothing more than "because I said so".

Most of those names came after white feminism and don't really support the idea that nonwhite feminism would have developed if white people didn't exist. The Chinese scholars do, though. Should have led with that imo
 
LUClEN;c-9768373 said:
fortyacres;c-9768119 said:
LUClEN;c-9768029 said:
fortyacres;c-9768001 said:
LUClEN;c-9767993 said:
blackrain;c-9767918 said:
playmaker88;c-9767541 said:
Whatever name you want to call.. a movement where women would want equality/equitable treatment, civl protections .. so on and so forth would have.. eventually have come to fruition..., Someone alluded to that point. it probably would have took on a different yet similar shape. So what are you really arguing bout.. the label?

Most don't even know what they're railing against when they say they hate feminism. Anyone who can't believe that the mere concept of women wanting to be on equal social standing with men would have eventually began no matter what name you call it is being willfully ignorant.

Women were treated poorly all over the world. If what you're saying is true we would have seen feminism all over the world. Instead, it's mostly been in white countries.

It was and its well documented

Where was the feminism outside of the West?

You need to start read and research the following countries and people in the 17/18/19th centuries:

Egypt (read up on Huda Sha'arawi or Qasim Amin)

Iran (research Jam'iyat-e Nesvan-e Vatankhah)

Japan ( read up on Fusae Ichikawa)

China (He Zhen ,Yu Zhengxie and Yuan Mei.

India (read up on Savitribai Phule or Tarabai Shinde)

Africa (not a country obviously) women like Adelaide Casely-Hayford, the Sierra Leonian women’s rights activist referred, Charlotte Maxeke who in 1918 founded the Bantu Women’s League in South Africa.Ndate Yalla Mbodj, Nzinga , Nehanda etc.

its not hard dude all you gatta is library this shit or do your googles.Its obsurd to assume womens rights are solely exclusive to western ideology.

I'm on mobile. It's also not my claim to defend. It's not "obsord", bro: if you don't support your claim it amounts to nothing more than "because I said so".

Most of those names came after white feminism and don't really support the idea that nonwhite feminism would have developed if white people didn't exist. The Chinese scholars do, though. Should have led with that imo

can we agree that sexism, misogyny exist to varying degrees within most cultures for thousands and thousands of years

that said, feminism describes the acting, speaking, writing, and advocating on behalf of women's issues and rights and identifying injustice to females in the social status quo

so you truly believe that there would have been none of that ever without European influence? seriously?
 
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A woman identifying as a feminist is a lost cause.

Men will never be equal to men, so if thats the mission that shit is dead before it starts.

Same as a man trying to stand in a womans shoes. Shits dead.
 
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9768438 said:
LUClEN;c-9768373 said:
fortyacres;c-9768119 said:
LUClEN;c-9768029 said:
fortyacres;c-9768001 said:
LUClEN;c-9767993 said:
blackrain;c-9767918 said:
playmaker88;c-9767541 said:
Whatever name you want to call.. a movement where women would want equality/equitable treatment, civl protections .. so on and so forth would have.. eventually have come to fruition..., Someone alluded to that point. it probably would have took on a different yet similar shape. So what are you really arguing bout.. the label?

Most don't even know what they're railing against when they say they hate feminism. Anyone who can't believe that the mere concept of women wanting to be on equal social standing with men would have eventually began no matter what name you call it is being willfully ignorant.

Women were treated poorly all over the world. If what you're saying is true we would have seen feminism all over the world. Instead, it's mostly been in white countries.

It was and its well documented

Where was the feminism outside of the West?

You need to start read and research the following countries and people in the 17/18/19th centuries:

Egypt (read up on Huda Sha'arawi or Qasim Amin)

Iran (research Jam'iyat-e Nesvan-e Vatankhah)

Japan ( read up on Fusae Ichikawa)

China (He Zhen ,Yu Zhengxie and Yuan Mei.

India (read up on Savitribai Phule or Tarabai Shinde)

Africa (not a country obviously) women like Adelaide Casely-Hayford, the Sierra Leonian women’s rights activist referred, Charlotte Maxeke who in 1918 founded the Bantu Women’s League in South Africa.Ndate Yalla Mbodj, Nzinga , Nehanda etc.

its not hard dude all you gatta is library this shit or do your googles.Its obsurd to assume womens rights are solely exclusive to western ideology.

I'm on mobile. It's also not my claim to defend. It's not "obsord", bro: if you don't support your claim it amounts to nothing more than "because I said so".

Most of those names came after white feminism and don't really support the idea that nonwhite feminism would have developed if white people didn't exist. The Chinese scholars do, though. Should have led with that imo

can we agree that sexism, misogyny exist to varying degrees within most cultures for thousands and thousands of years

that said, feminism describes the acting, speaking, writing, and advocating on behalf of women's issues and rights and identifying injustice to females in the social status quo

so you truly believe that there would have been none of that ever without European influence? seriously?

I'm pretty sure most people would agree to that first point. At a certain point in development communities appear to become much less egalitarian gender-wise: the cultures used as examples of gender equality are all tribes in precolonial America or Africa.

Fortyacres already posted a few examples of nonwhite female-centric thinkers that predate feminism and the suffragettes. It's not really a matter of debate to say whether it could have happened without white people when it did already.
 

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