Michael Irvin Says He Was Happiest Playing Football In College Because He Was Broke

[MarcusGarvey]

Easier said than done

If i was one of those NBA/NFL mutants i would

•Buy a house cash

•Three cars at a time - one to ride around, one to stunt, one for Mrs.

Lease them, car values aint shit

•Buy your parent/s a crib in a good neighbourhood, they dont need a million dollar house they cant upkeep

•Fuck cousins, uncles, aunts - they can fend for themselves

 

[unspoken_respect]

College life + Miami + being a star athlete

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Niggas really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are shitty and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.

 

[felliwonda]

I gotta admit I agree with Irving on this one my people. Much too often as family members we feel our siblings who are successful hold a responsibility to help raise us up solely because of bloodline ties and or family ties, see this what he said is so very real to me is very hurtful but necessary for success listen: (My brothers and sisters, they're all grown. I'm like: 'You guys are grown.' Now I don't mind, I do what I can for all my nieces and nephews. I consider that to be an investment, what I give to them. But I consider it to be throwing money away now when I give to my brothers and sisters. I'm like: "Hey, this is spending money on the past. You guys, your future is set.) Yo this man means no offense I honestly put myself in the shoes of one of his siblings and fall back and say to myself yo this is true! There is nothing like independence no matter how small it may seem in the eyes of the person gaining it and that independence I mean it in all aspects. This is the message he is really trying to give his family! Don’t depend on me because I made it. You are grown keep fighting! But let’s invest in our children they are our future they are the future of this Nation and is true yo. I can go on but this statement he made right there was enough for me.

 

[CapitalB]

Niggas really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are shitty and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.

"aren't entitled" means they aren't "owed" correct??!

if so what are we talking about here??

 

[D. Morgan]

Niggas really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are shitty and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.

That is all

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i hear all yall.....but having money changes the game for you.

either you gotta cut off alot of people or be prepared to always have to fight an not feel welcomed if you aint giving.

 

[babelipsss]

I find it hard to believe that Irvin' s family are the only ones to approach him for money. It seems like he has a grudge against someone in particular and he's taking it to the public.

I come from a close family. They need it, I got it, they can have it. They don't have to earn my support. That's how family is supposed to work.

 

[Kwan Dai]

i hear all yall.....but having money changes the game for you.

either you gotta cut off alot of people or be prepared to always have to fight an not feel welcomed if you aint giving.

The game only changes if you change the game. If, you were giving before the extra dollars you will continue to do so afterwards. People who give, do so despite their economic situation. What Mike seems to be describing is, he wasn't a giving person before he came into money so, it's become a burden because, it's not inherent.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Niggas really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are shitty and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.

"aren't entitled" means they aren't "owed" correct??!

if so what are we talking about here??

You can owe someone without being obligated to pay them back If you ask to borrow $5 dollars from a friend, you technically owe that friend $5. That doesn't entitled your friend to take $5 from you wallet the next time he's at your house.

If you have good parents, they do a lot for you, in many cases going above and beyond what is necessary to simply raise you to adulthood. That puts you in their debt, but it's not some debt where you are contractually obligated to pay them back, so they aren't entitled to anything from you if you choose not to give it.

 

[LPast]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

Yeah, it's a sticking point. Again, I think people believe that if you "owe" someone that means you have to pay them back. It doesn't.

When I say you owe your parents, I'm not talking about some debt that you are contractually mandated to pay off. I'm saying they've done something for you that has enabled you to do what you've done. It's like someone says "I owe everything to my father's guidance." That doesn't literally mean that that person is required to give everything they own to pay back his or her father's guidance. It just means that everything that person was able to accomplish was predicated on the provision of that guidance, which is a loose form of debt.

 

[Kwan Dai]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

It's the key word in your argument. I owe my parents should sickness befall them. My parents weren't obligated to care for me when I would fall sick as a child. There are plenty of foster\adoption services available.

 

[D. Morgan]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

Yeah, it's a sticking point. Again, I think people believe that if you "owe" someone that means you have to pay them back. It doesn't.

When I say you owe your parents, I'm not talking about some debt that you are contractually mandated to pay off. I'm saying they've done something for you that has enabled you to do what you've done. It's like someone says "I owe everything to my father's guidance." That doesn't literally mean that that person is required to give everything they own to pay back his or her father's guidance. It just means that everything that person was able to accomplish was predicated on the provision of that guidance, which is a loose form of debt.

If you don't have to pay someone back that literally means you don't "OWE" them shit.

If you "OWE" some that literally means you have to back them back and if you don't you a fucked a person plain and simple.

owe

ō/Submit

verb

have an obligation to pay or repay (something, especially money) in return for something received

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

Yeah, it's a sticking point. Again, I think people believe that if you "owe" someone that means you have to pay them back. It doesn't.

When I say you owe your parents, I'm not talking about some debt that you are contractually mandated to pay off. I'm saying they've done something for you that has enabled you to do what you've done. It's like someone says "I owe everything to my father's guidance." That doesn't literally mean that that person is required to give everything they own to pay back his or her father's guidance. It just means that everything that person was able to accomplish was predicated on the provision of that guidance, which is a loose form of debt.

If you don't have to pay someone back that literally means you don't "OWE" them shit.

If you "OWE" some that literally means you have to back them back and if you don't you a fucked a person plain and simple.

owe

ō/Submit

verb

have an obligation to pay or repay (something, especially money) in return for something received

Why do we go through this so much on this site? Words have multiple definitions.

a archaic ossess, own

b :to have or bear (an emotion or attitude) to someone or something owes the boss a grudge owes his friend an apology (e.g., They owe allegiance to their country. Children owe their parents respect).

2 a (1) :to be under obligation to pay or repay in return for something received :be indebted in the sum of (e.g., owes me $5) (2) :to be under obligation to render (something, such as duty or service) (e.g., I owe you a favor or A lawyer owes her client legal advice).

b :to be indebted to (e.g., owes the grocer for supplies)

3 :to be indebted for (e.g., owed his wealth to his father or owes much to good luck)

Only one definition specifies obligation. The others just say that you're in debt of some form. Specifically, I'm referring more to the third definition, which should be clear when I specify that parents aren't entitled.

 

[Trollio]

Yall want it one way but its another

 

[D. Morgan]

I have great parents, but I don't owe them anything. If they get sick and I take care of them, I'm doing it because I want to. Not because I owe them.

"Owe" is the keyword in this whole argument.

Yeah, it's a sticking point. Again, I think people believe that if you "owe" someone that means you have to pay them back. It doesn't.

When I say you owe your parents, I'm not talking about some debt that you are contractually mandated to pay off. I'm saying they've done something for you that has enabled you to do what you've done. It's like someone says "I owe everything to my father's guidance." That doesn't literally mean that that person is required to give everything they own to pay back his or her father's guidance. It just means that everything that person was able to accomplish was predicated on the provision of that guidance, which is a loose form of debt.

If you don't have to pay someone back that literally means you don't "OWE" them shit.

If you "OWE" some that literally means you have to back them back and if you don't you a fucked a person plain and simple.

owe

ō/Submit

verb

have an obligation to pay or repay (something, especially money) in return for something received

Why do we go through this so much on this site? Words have multiple definitions.

a archaic ossess, own

b :to have or bear (an emotion or attitude) to someone or something owes the boss a grudge owes his friend an apology (e.g., They owe allegiance to their country. Children owe their parents respect).

2 a (1) :to be under obligation to pay or repay in return for something received :be indebted in the sum of (e.g., owes me $5) (2) :to be under obligation to render (something, such as duty or service) (e.g., I owe you a favor or A lawyer owes her client legal advice).

b :to be indebted to (e.g., owes the grocer for supplies)

3 :to be indebted for (e.g., owed his wealth to his father or owes much to good luck)

Only one definition specifies obligation. The others just say that you're in debt of some form. Specifically, I'm referring more to the third definition, which should be clear when I specify that parents aren't entitled.

Since you want to used the third which states indebted

in·debt·ed

inˈdedəd/Submit

adjective

owing money.

"heavily indebted countries"

owing gratitude for a service or favor.

Going by the bullshit you saying you would go by the bold definition. So basically what nobody here has never said a good parent shouldn't get which is basically a thank you. Being a good parent ain't a fucking service or favor to a child that never asked them to be here.

Otherwise they ain't owed shit as previously stated.

 

[SELASI_i]

I think what he meant by broke was less responsibility financially. Playing for the U in the 80s I'm sure he got so many freebies its ridiculous.

 

[LPast]

As a parent, I'm changing diapers, putting a roof over their head, etc. I'm going to put them through college as well...

Guess what? They don't owe me a thing. My goal is to love my kids, raise them to be good adults, and try not to be a burden on them.

 

[D. Morgan]

A person is going to get tired and fed up of anybody regardless of the title they may have(mother, father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, etc) always asking and more importantly expecting hand-outs cause they "know" you got it.

Fuck that shit I ain't in the business of no matter how much I got of taking care of grown able bodied people or constantly having to bail you out of fucked up financial situations because you are terrible with money. Comes a point in time you either going to sink or swim.