Message to J. Prince (founder of Rap-A-Lot Records)

[blackbloc]

i think you expect to much from a label that clearly just a front

 

[lamontbdc]

Homie i realized this in 2002 when he got real jealous that Scarface was doing his thing at Def Jam South. He was not happy with Face at all b/c if def jam liked his album they owned rights to the album and not just rap a lot. That's why j prince had yukmouth(his puppet at the time who doesn't even fuck with him anymore) diss Scarface. He was mad that Face took luda to Def Jam. Remember luda's 1st real appearance was on the realest niggas down south compilation. then he started dropping albums from Face that Face never even worked on or even new was coming out. My Homies 2 and Balls and My word. They dropped Balls and my word took some old face verse and re produced the tracks. Then he did the samething to Pimp C with Sweet James Jones Stories. Took some old pimp c lyrics and re produced the tracks. Even pimp c was fucked up about that. that's why he had that nigga Bentley when he gout out of jail. He would always sell a Scarface verse to like 4 different artists. when Devin left the label and was dropping indy albums he was dropping unreleased Devin material on the same day to under cut Devin. J Prince taught Suge Knight everything he knows. Only good thin J prince did was let guys make the music they want too. But he's just as cruddy as every other CEO. shit big Mike went to prison setting J Prince shit on fire b/c he coudln't get paid. Willie D and Bushwick left multiple times b/c they couldn't get paid. As Scarface said j prince is legally right to use their vocals but the shit is morally wrong. Them niggas all had slave deals

 

[dmfslimm]

totally agree. its no "free scarface" campaign going on. and then this lawsuit. but blackbloc got a point also. those who kept up with j prince and his dealings know the truth.

 

[blackbloc]

Homie i realized this in 2002 when he got real jealous that Scarface was doing his thing at Def Jam South. He was not happy with Face at all b/c if def jam liked his album they owned rights to the album and not just rap a lot. That's why j prince had yukmouth(his puppet at the time who doesn't even fuck with him anymore) diss Scarface. He was mad that Face took luda to Def Jam. Remember luda's 1st real appearance was on the realest niggas down south compilation. then he started dropping albums from Face that Face never even worked on or even new was coming out. My Homies 2 and Balls and My word. They dropped Balls and my word took some old face verse and re produced the tracks. Then he did the samething to Pimp C with Sweet James Jones Stories. Took some old pimp c lyrics and re produced the tracks. Even pimp c was fucked up about that. that's why he had that nigga Bentley when he gout out of jail. He would always sell a Scarface verse to like 4 different artists. when Devin left the label and was dropping indy albums he was dropping unreleased Devin material on the same day to under cut Devin. J Prince taught Suge Knight everything he knows. Only good thin J prince did was let guys make the music they want too. But he's just as cruddy as every other CEO. shit big Mike went to prison setting J Prince shit on fire b/c he coudln't get paid. Willie D and Bushwick left multiple times b/c they couldn't get paid. As Scarface said j prince is legally right to use their vocals but the shit is morally wrong. Them niggas all had slave deals

i remember all those scarface albums and the bet commercials for them, and face telling people not to buy them, i always wondered wtf was going on

 

[lamontbdc]

i remember all those scarface albums and the bet commercials for them, and face telling people not to buy them, i always wondered wtf was going on

Balls and my word and my homies 2 are the 2 albums that Scarface himself had absolutely nothing to do with. and at one time J Prince and suge were trying to hype up a Scarface/2Pac album with all original material. They had interview with Face and he said he has nothing at all to do with that shit either.

and even worse on Balls and my word he took a old Scarface verse and an old bun B verse then presented the track to the world as a diss to 50. when in reality the nigga was just trying to get Z-ro a buzz. that why z-ro had a fresh verse on that song, and why scarface and bun b both came out and said they never had any beef with 50 at all.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

As a long time ultra-devout Rap-A-Lot superfan, I've had a deep respect for James "J.Prince" Smith and the label. Since the first time I bought the self-titled Geto Boys album as a kid, I was hooked. For the next 20 years, I supportted Rap-A-Lot unconditionally. If it had the RAL crown logo on the back, I bought it. Over the years, I've bought all their shit - even the less popular albums, like Dorosel "Unleash the Beast", all of Ganksta N.I.P.'s albums, Ghetto Twins "No Pain, No Gain", The Convicts (Big Mike & 3-2), Blac Monks "Death Before Dishonor" & "No Mercy", Snypaz "Livin In the Scope", Odd Squad "Fadanuf fa Erybody", Big Mike "Hard to Hit", 5th Ward Juveniles, Willie D "Contraversy", "I'm Goin Out Like A Soldier", "Hated By Many Loved by Few", etc. I even used to do promotions for Virgin/ Noo Trybe (RAL's one-time distibutor). I'm a huge Scarface, Devin the Dude, Mike Dean, N.O. Joe, John Bido, Bushwick, and Tela fan. I used to hold a great deal of respect for J.Prince, but after reading about how Pimp C's widow is having to sue him for unpaid royalties from her late husband's solo recordings released through RAL, my views have changed. The man has made a lot of money from his boxing management firm and his black angus cattle farm. Apparently RAL is just a side hobby and he obviously has no respect for their legacy. Scarface is in prison and apparently no one cares (?). Bun B is the only artist keeping that sinking label alive, and his last album, which was straight heat, was poorly promoted. And I can't believe he would stand by and let J sue Pimp C's widow. J. Prince is a great businessman, but he treats his artists like garbage. Ask Devin, Tela, Yukmouth, Scarface, Bushwick, 3-2, Z-Ro, Big Mike, and many more artists that he's thrown under the bus over the years. To me, this is the nail in the coffin. I'll still always support former RAL artists, but J. Prince just lost all credibility with me.

Extremely underrated albums

 

[theorynbt]

Same shit Black Market Records did to Brother Lynch Hung.

 

[mattee c]

Homie i realized this in 2002 when he got real jealous that Scarface was doing his thing at Def Jam South. He was not happy with Face at all b/c if def jam liked his album they owned rights to the album and not just rap a lot. That's why j prince had yukmouth(his puppet at the time who doesn't even fuck with him anymore) diss Scarface. He was mad that Face took luda to Def Jam. Remember luda's 1st real appearance was on the realest niggas down south compilation. then he started dropping albums from Face that Face never even worked on or even new was coming out. My Homies 2 and Balls and My word. They dropped Balls and my word took some old face verse and re produced the tracks. Then he did the samething to Pimp C with Sweet James Jones Stories. Took some old pimp c lyrics and re produced the tracks. Even pimp c was fucked up about that. that's why he had that nigga Bentley when he gout out of jail. He would always sell a Scarface verse to like 4 different artists. when Devin left the label and was dropping indy albums he was dropping unreleased Devin material on the same day to under cut Devin. J Prince taught Suge Knight everything he knows. Only good thin J prince did was let guys make the music they want too. But he's just as cruddy as every other CEO. shit big Mike went to prison setting J Prince shit on fire b/c he coudln't get paid. Willie D and Bushwick left multiple times b/c they couldn't get paid. As Scarface said j prince is legally right to use their vocals but the shit is morally wrong. Them niggas all had slave deals

1000% cosign brother. Good to know other fans were noticing this shit. J. Prince talks all that self-righteous, political shit, but he's been runnin Rap-A-Lot like a plantation. He's been given his artists the "Master P" - makin shitloads off their albums, not spending any money on promotions or adequate videos, and payin his artist slave wages. And you're absolutely right about him releasing all those old studio outtakes (Balls And My Word, My Homies II, that 2Face album [Pac & Face outtakes], Devin's High Life, Sweet James Jones Stories, etc.), out of spite because Face took Luda to Def Jam South. RAL had been tryin to sign him and basically 'Face cautioned him against that. I'm sure Luda has no regrets. "Catch Up" was Ludacris' debut track and it was originally on that Realest N*gg*s Down South comp. Face also tried to sign Lil Flip to Def Jam South (even though he eventually signed with Sony), who J wanted on RAL. The timeline says it all. And those Yukmouth disses appeared right on schedule. But I do not think RAL is, or ever has been a front for any large-scale drug dealing.

 

[mattee c]

@theorynbt

God damn you're on point with that analogy homie. Cedric Singleton = Suge Knight = J. Prince. That's why Lynch's EBK4 album is only half the classic it should be. Ced stole the masters halfway through recording. And just a strange bit of trivia - when Dre left Death Row, he originally wanted to name Aftermath, Black Market Records. He even made Ced Sing an offer (don't know how much), which he obviously refused. He fucked up Mr. Doctor's career too. I'm just glad to still see Lynch doin his thing with Tech N9ne and Strange Music. He's definately the most underrated ever.

 

[lamontbdc]

1000% cosign brother. Good to know other fans were noticing this shit. J. Prince talks all that self-righteous, political shit, but he's been runnin Rap-A-Lot like a plantation. He's been given his artists the "Master P" - makin shitloads off their albums, not spending any money on promotions or adequate videos, and payin his artist slave wages. And you're absolutely right about him releasing all those old studio outtakes (Balls And My Word, My Homies II, that 2Face album [Pac & Face outtakes], Devin's High Life, Sweet James Jones Stories, etc.), out of spite because Face took Luda to Def Jam South. RAL had been tryin to sign him and basically faced cautioned him against that. I'm sure Luda has no regrets. "Catch Up" was Ludacris' debut track and it was originally on that Realest N*gg*s Down South comp. Face also tried to sign Lil Flip to Def Jam South (even though he eventually signed with Sony), who J wanted on RAL. The timeline says it all. And those Yukmouth disses appeared right on schedule. But I do not think RAL is, or ever has been a front for any large-scale drug dealing.

He used Yuk as a puppet. To diss Face then squashed it and he used him as a puppet to diss 50. Then it was at some point they started rap a lot west and they appointed some other guy like CEO though nothing ever really dropped. Can't remember his name but yukmouth was not happy about that. Kinda slightly dissed j prince on one of his mixtapes and that's why west coast don got shelved for so long. to the point where he just dropped whatever to get off of rap a lot and out of that contract. By the time Yuk realized it he was already stuck. Samething for Z-ro. shit started off all gravy with rap a lot but after a year or 2 he wasn't fucking with rap a lot anymore either.

and he's actually suing Pimp c's wife for 10 masters so he can reproduce and sell some more pimp c stuff.

I think j prince and them have done some shady side deals on some illegal shit but rap a lot isn't a front.

 

[Guns]

trae left in 2008.

 

[mattee c]

And you think Scarface, and possibly Willie D's, current legal situations might possibly be retaliation for the fed's failed RICO case against J.Prince / Rap-A-Lot? I'm sure it didn't help that after Congresswoman Maxine Waters got the case dropped, Face taunted & named (Agent Shumacher) on his track "Look Into My Eyes" off of his Last of a Dying Breed album. I know Face fucked himself by impregnating bottom-feeding golddiggers. But for a man who has multiple platinum and gold plaques and made J. Prince, literally, million$, I find it hard to believe J can't use his money, power, influence, and connections, to at least get the man out on bond. Murderers, who have never sold a record, get out on bond everyday. Face has always been loyal to J. On Tela's classic track "The World Ain't Enuff", Face even says that he loves J and would defend him with his life. I thought it was death before dishonor J? And what about the time he allegedly had Bushwick beat nearly to death by members of the 5th Ward Boyz? One of whom, I believe, is currently (or was) locked up for bank robbery. Just like one of the guys from Do Or Die (Nard, I think) is doin time on a bank robbery. Why would successful RAL artists have to result to bank robbery? And I'm sure they're gettin lots of support from J.Prince. I bet he'd already repo'd Pimp C's Bentley and the diamond jewelry he bought him from Emmitt's before his body was in the ground.

R.I.P. Pimp C, Big Moe, Seagram, Fat Pat, DJ Screw. And with or without J. Prince, I'll always recognize the mob.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

fuck j prince

free scarface

 

[Brian B.]

industry rule #480

 

[gunot_killa]

As a long time ultra-devout Rap-A-Lot superfan, I've had a deep respect for James "J.Prince" Smith and the label. Since the first time I bought the self-titled Geto Boys album as a kid, I was hooked. For the next 20 years, I supportted Rap-A-Lot unconditionally. If it had the RAL crown logo on the back, I bought it. Over the years, I've bought all their shit - even the less popular albums, like Dorosel "Unleash the Beast", all of Ganksta N.I.P.'s albums, Ghetto Twins "No Pain, No Gain", The Convicts (Big Mike & 3-2), Blac Monks "Death Before Dishonor" & "No Mercy", Snypaz "Livin In the Scope", Odd Squad "Fadanuf fa Erybody", Big Mike "Hard to Hit", 5th Ward Juveniles, Willie D "Contraversy", "I'm Goin Out Like A Soldier", "Hated By Many Loved by Few", etc. I even used to do promotions for Virgin/ Noo Trybe (RAL's one-time distibutor). I'm a huge Scarface, Devin the Dude, Mike Dean, N.O. Joe, John Bido, Bushwick, and Tela fan. I used to hold a great deal of respect for J.Prince, but after reading about how Pimp C's widow is having to sue him for unpaid royalties from her late husband's solo recordings released through RAL, my views have changed. The man has made a lot of money from his boxing management firm and his black angus cattle farm. Apparently RAL is just a side hobby and he obviously has no respect for their legacy. Scarface is in prison and apparently no one cares (?). Bun B is the only artist keeping that sinking label alive, and his last album, which was straight heat, was poorly promoted. And I can't believe he would stand by and let J sue Pimp C's widow. J. Prince is a great businessman, but he treats his artists like garbage. Ask Devin, Tela, Yukmouth, Scarface, Bushwick, 3-2, Z-Ro, Big Mike, and many more artists that he's thrown under the bus over the years. To me, this is the nail in the coffin. I'll still always support former RAL artists, but J. Prince just lost all credibility with me.

I been knew j prince a bitch since 1994 when he tried to fucc over cj mac and flew to houston me and several crips took turns crip stomping j prince munchin little ass. he gave cj mac all the money whats owed to him and released from the label. now with z-ro its a different situation. whenever i be in houston looking for this stuart little looking nigga for fuccing over my nigga z-ro the bitch goes into hiding. j prince still remembers the ass whooping we gave him in 95. sure prince will give z-ro then and there to keep me off his ass. i did one time catch him slipping when he was in cali at the 2010 BET awards. i just happen ride thru in my blue corolla and spotted this bitch nigga so ran outta my car ran towards j prince and straight up crip smacc his ass. i smacced him so hard he saw blue stars around his head.

 

[talik23]

I been knew j prince a bitch since 1994 when he tried to fucc over cj mac and flew to houston me and several crips took turns crip stomping j prince munchin little ass. he gave cj mac all the money whats owed to him and released from the label. now with z-ro its a different situation. whenever i be in houston looking for this stuart little looking nigga for fuccing over my nigga z-ro the bitch goes into hiding. j prince still remembers the ass whooping we gave him in 95. sure prince will give z-ro then and there to keep me off his ass. i did one time catch him slipping when he was in cali at the 2010 BET awards. i just happen ride thru in my blue corolla and spotted this bitch nigga so ran outta my car ran towards j prince and straight up crip smacc his ass. i smacced him so hard he saw blue stars around his head.

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[theorynbt]

@theorynbt

God damn you're on point with that analogy homie. Cedric Singleton = Suge Knight = J. Prince. That's why Lynch's EBK4 album is only half the classic it should be. Ced stole the masters halfway through recording. And just a strange bit of trivia - when Dre left Death Row, he originally wanted to name Aftermath, Black Market Records. He even made Ced Sing an offer (don't know how much), which he obviously refused. He fucked up Mr. Doctor's career too. I'm just glad to still see Lynch doin his thing with Tech N9ne and Strange Music. He's definately the most underrated ever.

EBK4 was a debacle, but I was just happy to get some new Lynch. That shoulda been a Super-Classic LP. Ced Singleton was just like all those other dirty CEO's and putting out half finished music of his artists.

Thanks for the insight on Dre wanting to name Aftermath, Black Market. I didnt know that and I was huge Lynch fan and always posting on 916siccness.com. I'm also glad to see Lynch still putting it down wit TechNina.

 

[gunot_killa]

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[Brian B.]

I been knew j prince a bitch since 1994 when he tried to fucc over cj mac and flew to houston me and several crips took turns crip stomping j prince munchin little ass. he gave cj mac all the money whats owed to him and released from the label. now with z-ro its a different situation. whenever i be in houston looking for this stuart little looking nigga for fuccing over my nigga z-ro the bitch goes into hiding. j prince still remembers the ass whooping we gave him in 95. sure prince will give z-ro then and there to keep me off his ass. i did one time catch him slipping when he was in cali at the 2010 BET awards. i just happen ride thru in my blue corolla and spotted this bitch nigga so ran outta my car ran towards j prince and straight up crip smacc his ass. i smacced him so hard he saw blue stars around his head.

whatever you say whitey

 

[ibedamned]

EBK4 was a debacle, but I was just happy to get some new Lynch. That shoulda been a Super-Classic LP. Ced Singleton was just like all those other dirty CEO's and putting out half finished music of his artists.

Thanks for the insight on Dre wanting to name Aftermath, Black Market. I didnt know that and I was huge Lynch fan and always posting on 916siccness.com. I'm also glad to see Lynch still putting it down wit TechNina.

Excalibur was my shit tho. but overall the album was shit. Everysong started off with a fire lynch verse but then some bum ass nigga would stumble through a wack ass verse. And J Prince make me sick, he always boring me with his lame ass talks at the beginning of ace cd's