Men to Boys: The Making of Modern Immaturity

[Coby Vibes]

I seen the downfall with men coming along time ago, when most start believing all women are bitches, and all bitches are hoes..

this mean they are not using their instinct, or observing a woman by mentality. When men started judging women by their looks is when men start following instead of leading.....vanity was really a problem amongst women, now it is problem amongst men

and he summed that up with this: men are OPTING for this. it's a conscious choice on the part of the male

these American boy-men reject the traditional notions of mature masculinity, while opting for vanity and narcissism with a new motto: manhood is play and it never ends. He cites the example of Hugh Hefner's popular concept of childish male wish fulfillment, an empire built on sexually available women, carnal fantasies and eternal playtime.

meh it's more growing pains than immaturity

men and women are learning how to adapt to new roles that aren't as rigid

some take it and run with it, others stumble and fall

but that's what societies do, they evolve

and it's no fault to men or women, it unfortunately is not that simple, there's too many factors that go into that

yes in the 50' men went to war and women didn't

but women went to work because men could not

and that was start of women in the workplace not some made up feminist conspiracy

agreed for the most part. It is labeled immaturity because the author believes that men are extending their adolescent and in perpetual play mode.

If anything we do not need to regress to old ways and hold on to old ideals of what a relationship should be.

The world is changing and everyone needs to adapt to that change or get out of the way.

this goes well beyond relationships. this is about men's position in society. One of the other books cited, if y'all bothered to click the link... there is a phenomenon that has men concerned



The Decline of Men: How the American Male Is Getting Axed, Giving Up, and Flipping Off His Future

Garcia (The New Mainstream) explores disturbing trends of men leading increasingly socially isolated lives and dropping out of high school and college in record numbers, naming them victims of an invisible epidemic. According to the author, modern men have failed to forge a new and productive role in the 21st century. Garcia charts the rise of feminism and the changing societal roles of both men and women, illustrating how and why men have become so confused about what defines masculinity; having lost their traditional role as provider and protector, men flirt with hollow substitute identities—drawing on Jackass culture (men pretending to be boys), gangster culture (boys pretending to be men) and metrosexual obsessions with grooming and body image—that have reductively redefined manhood and led men away from compassion, responsibility and family. Garcia wisely avoids degrading feminism or pitting men against women; instead, he offers an astute and well-researched meditation on how men might reclaim their identity and place in modern America and why such a transformation is important to future generations of both men and women. (Oct.)
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Product Description

Why are so many of today's supermen super-clueless ?
Why do so many men prefer the escapist digitized world of Spike TV and Grand Theft Auto to the reality of their own lives?
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An entire generation of men is slacking off. The struggle to redefine what being a man means in today's world has resulted in widespread male confusion, leading to rampant malaise, alienation, and disconnection. In this eye-opening exploration of this crisis of contemporary American manhood, award-winning journalist Guy Garcia sheds light on a problem that has wreaked havoc on the American family. Packed with startling statistics, informed by pop culture, and narrated in the entertaining style for which Guy Garcia is known, The Decline of Men is an important wake-up call to the distressing reality of the American male

It's more than a phenomenon... it's a crisis

 

[PURP_L_A_BOL]

When I do marry, she will be ten years younger than I. (me 34-35, her 24-25)

Be strong enough to not let the idea of post modern feminism determine her role in the marriage. (college educated of course)

Do whats in the best interest of US in the marriage, rather than focus on "making sure I dont get away with anything."

Allow me to lead, As a man.

And She'll reap the rewards of it.

Choosing the best option to make it last forever rather than the decade or less (most emasculinated men are victims of what society expects of them, thus arent happy)

Real men know how to lead and wont tollerate anything less. (a true partnership)

not the "business partnership" so many women of today strive for.

Choose wisely.

 

[zombie]

If we don't go back to some of the old social outlooks on life what are the other solutions to this boy-man problem

 

[PURP_L_A_BOL]

There are none.

most marriages now days are like verizon contracts lol

 

[zombie]

There are none.

most marriages now days are like verizon contracts lol

If that is true then we have no hope and shit will only will only get worse.

 

[JokerzWyld]

This is the World's Greatest Troll Thread.

 

[PURP_L_A_BOL]

all you really need to do is look at the marriages that are 15-20 years deep...

The ones in which the woman leads and the man follows (dont act like you dont notice lol)
the man looks beat down and worried... doesnt wanna get on the wifes bad side "or else"

Then look at the ones where the man is clearly comfortable and upbeat.. the wife usually has a carefree, easy going demeanor. They both seem happier and exude confidence at the same time...supporting eachother...knowing eachothers personal needs and meeting them effortlessly... a true union.

Only possible if a man is allowed to be a man.

 

[politicalthug202]

I think alot of woman are delaying marriage and child bearing to focus on they career

that does make them """immatue"" nor does it make a man immature.

its a new economy and you have to accumulate more education and or job experience.

before u can really live the life.

until kids wanna have fun. just like switching from agriculture to manufacturing

created the american teenager 13-18. the new economy has created a new social dynamic

but it doesnt mean anybody is immature

 

[blackrain]

Pretty much

I mean most married couples benefit from having two incomes

So instead of men trying uphold being a bread winner or women trying to take the mans place of a bread winning

we should learn how to just be partners with each other

Same thing with parenting

women need to stop holding on to the "whoa is me I work and raise children" martyr sash

and except and acknowledge that men do the exact same thing

working together instead of trying to one up each other in the gender war is waaay more effective

it is disturbing how undervalued fatherhood is in this society...