Meek's reputation or Drake's legacy.... Which took the bigger hit???

[blackrain]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Well that would be a loss if puma axed his contract over it which endorsement companies do if you wear a rival product. Meek Mill takes the bigger L because even though Drake and his writing is forever suspect, his actual character isn't. Meek exposed himself as an emotional nigga who don't think before he reacts. In 10 years nobody will give a fuck Drake got help with a song like Energy...but they will remember those twitter and instagram "I'm quitting the internet" only to come back 2 minutes later rants from Meek

nah.

niggas still say "nas lost" and that was 16 years ago.

anybody who cares about the argument (top 5 RAPPER shit) will FOREVER remember this shit.

People say Nas lost as a joke. Nobody seriously doubts Nas' credibility as an MC. Of course from an MC perspective as I said Drake's reputation is tainted, but nobody really questions who Drake is as a person. For Meek his whole persona was being the street nigga and now he's seen as someone who is quicker to get into a beef on twitter than anything else

 

[blackrain]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Well that would be a loss if puma axed his contract over it which endorsement companies do if you wear a rival product. Meek Mill takes the bigger L because even though Drake and his writing is forever suspect, his actual character isn't. Meek exposed himself as an emotional nigga who don't think before he reacts. In 10 years nobody will give a fuck Drake got help with a song like Energy...but they will remember those twitter and instagram "I'm quitting the internet" only to come back 2 minutes later rants from Meek

Boy stop

Only niggas gon forget whole verses of reference tracks is fans

Everybody else gon remember both and immediately not give a fuck

You act like your opinion of a nigga gon change his life

"Oh I know he's a emotional nigga blah blah blah"

So?

And puma didn't axe the contract

Look at you, ready to assign some more L's

I didn't say they axed the contract, I said they could have. The purse line is something that niggas clowned Drake for when Lord Knows first dropped. Shit was a corny ass line that niggas said fit right into Drake's insecure fall in love with a different stripper every other week persona he'd been riding with. It wasn't anything new. Meek's image was the polar opposite. The Philly street nigga, who some saw a battle rapper, instead comes across as a nigga who had to have his twitter password hidden from him by his team in order to keep him off the internet...that's an L

 

[blackrain]

In reality the hip hop culture took the biggest L. think about it.

Not at all

Ghostwriting is at the core of hip hop.

Man hell naw. Niggas woulda ran you outta hip hop in the 80s and 90s if they even got a hint of somebody else pennin your rhymes.

So the fact that for decades now rappers have been open about talking about writing raps for other rappers, yet nobody has been ran out the game for it means nothing to you?

 

[bck145]

If you niggas are saying the whole Drake Kdot and Cole as the new era best MC'S was never a thing or niggas wasn't saying stuff like as a MC Drake was Jay and niggas like Cole/Kdot was like Nas y'all lying..... And if you think in 10 years nobody will be remembering this you are also lying especially if Drake still making music his pen will forever be a question and he could never be put in the MC category and if y'all think that's just gonna magically go away one day and ppl will just forget it you playing yourself if anything that shadow will get bigger the bigger he gets in the pop world

Your off on that one....drake,dot, and cole were thought next in the game...which is happening right now...no one said shit about the next MC'S

No one will care about the ghostwriting in 10 years...easy and dre are both legends in the rap world even though they don't or didn't write their own shit....all the ghostwriting shit will fall off and the music will be left

People need to stop pretending like people thought Drake was ever going to be some top 10 rapper...no one said that shit...on the same note...meek will never be top 10 either so that whole point is mute on both sides

So what do you think ppl are gonna say about Drake in 10 years that they not saying today??? They STILL gonna say he ain't write his shit you think ppl all of a sudden are not gonna say that about Drake???? You brought up easy and dre like ppl don't still say that about them too... He'll have the same legacy as them only difference is they never painted themselves as MCs meanwhile Drake did so it'll be worse

If you bring up NWA or dre...no one goes to oh but they didn't write the shit...they talk about the classic music they made

Drake doesn't have classics like they do but in 10 years one of drakes hits get played and no one is going to stop and say...oh but he didn't write this....he will be remembered as being the most popular artist during this timeframe

It's only in discussions about who is the best or comparing music when it will be brought up...but Drake and meek both were never going to be brought up with who were the best rappers anyway...regardless of ghostwriting or not neither has the classic material needed for that

If Dre claimed to be top.5 MC ppl would bring it up you keep missing that.... The reason Dre and Easy having ghost writers ain't a big deal becuz they never.... Wait for it.... claimed to be MC's nobody claimed they were MC's... Drake was pawned off as a MC and only after the ghostwriter stuff did it turn into he not a MC he just a great artist.... This will always be brought up for that reason and if you think ppl will one day just let it go you are sadly fooling yourself

You are aware of the definition of an MC right? Anyone can claim to be a top MC...shit his concerts sold out quickly so his MC skills seem to be on point

Drake was said to be the next big mainstream hip hop act with hits which he has been...no one who is deep in hip hop ever considered him to be the next nas lyrically or anything

Ppl have let the ghostwriting shit go already...I don't need to wait and I don't really care...views sold how many records? Again only hip hop heads give a shit...the mainstream radio fans don't give a shit and that far outweighs the hip hop heads

Man I don't even like the dude but ppl need to stop making up these weak arguements and pretend like anyone out of a niche group of ppl give a shit....just say you don't like him and leave it at that

Drake wanted and aimed to be seen as a great by that same niche crowd you talking about and his peers he will never be able to be that now..... You think he gonna care more about what Becky in Beverly hills thinks about him when his career is said and done or the hip hop community??? Swear y'all think all the nigga care about is money and sales and that's it no the nigga wanted to be great and was being called one of the best lyricist of the new school in the game now he's gotta fever live with being synonymous with a nigga that don't write his raps and if you think one day ppl gonna be like "we don't care he still a great MC" you tripping he'll never get a chance to get that back and for a nigga that was aiming for that that's a blow

You talk to Drake to know what be wants or cares about?

Because history doesn't say that...he never changed his style to be hard, never went super lyrical miracle, never stopped singing even when a lot of hip hop fans shitted on him for it

Go to a club and when a Drake song comes on....go up to a bitch you want to fuck and say "he didn't write this" and see if she gives a fuck or if she just wanna enjoy the music...it's only yall mother fuckers who gonna keep dwelling on it

So like I said you think he don't care about his legacy becuz bitches like his shit??? You keep telling yourself that.... Nigga asking me about pickup lines to Drake songs playing in the background if you have to go from claiming top 5 to that you done took a major hit

If you ain't in the rap game for the mother fuckin cash mane what is your mother fuckin purpose....still holds true

I'd imagine Drake would take money and pussy over what some dusty hip hop head thinks about him

But whatever...if you want to keep making up excuses for not liking him, next time just say you don't like his music and leave it at that

It's funny cuz that's exactly what I'm saying

Except switch out drake for meek and dusty hip hop head for dusty nigga on a hip hop website

Meek tries to be super hip hop though.....and always trying to denounce his "haters"..so he obviously cares

 

[bck145]

If you niggas are saying the whole Drake Kdot and Cole as the new era best MC'S was never a thing or niggas wasn't saying stuff like as a MC Drake was Jay and niggas like Cole/Kdot was like Nas y'all lying..... And if you think in 10 years nobody will be remembering this you are also lying especially if Drake still making music his pen will forever be a question and he could never be put in the MC category and if y'all think that's just gonna magically go away one day and ppl will just forget it you playing yourself if anything that shadow will get bigger the bigger he gets in the pop world

Your off on that one....drake,dot, and cole were thought next in the game...which is happening right now...no one said shit about the next MC'S

No one will care about the ghostwriting in 10 years...easy and dre are both legends in the rap world even though they don't or didn't write their own shit....all the ghostwriting shit will fall off and the music will be left

People need to stop pretending like people thought Drake was ever going to be some top 10 rapper...no one said that shit...on the same note...meek will never be top 10 either so that whole point is mute on both sides

So what do you think ppl are gonna say about Drake in 10 years that they not saying today??? They STILL gonna say he ain't write his shit you think ppl all of a sudden are not gonna say that about Drake???? You brought up easy and dre like ppl don't still say that about them too... He'll have the same legacy as them only difference is they never painted themselves as MCs meanwhile Drake did so it'll be worse

If you bring up NWA or dre...no one goes to oh but they didn't write the shit...they talk about the classic music they made

Drake doesn't have classics like they do but in 10 years one of drakes hits get played and no one is going to stop and say...oh but he didn't write this....he will be remembered as being the most popular artist during this timeframe

It's only in discussions about who is the best or comparing music when it will be brought up...but Drake and meek both were never going to be brought up with who were the best rappers anyway...regardless of ghostwriting or not neither has the classic material needed for that

If Dre claimed to be top.5 MC ppl would bring it up you keep missing that.... The reason Dre and Easy having ghost writers ain't a big deal becuz they never.... Wait for it.... claimed to be MC's nobody claimed they were MC's... Drake was pawned off as a MC and only after the ghostwriter stuff did it turn into he not a MC he just a great artist.... This will always be brought up for that reason and if you think ppl will one day just let it go you are sadly fooling yourself

You are aware of the definition of an MC right? Anyone can claim to be a top MC...shit his concerts sold out quickly so his MC skills seem to be on point

Drake was said to be the next big mainstream hip hop act with hits which he has been...no one who is deep in hip hop ever considered him to be the next nas lyrically or anything

Ppl have let the ghostwriting shit go already...I don't need to wait and I don't really care...views sold how many records? Again only hip hop heads give a shit...the mainstream radio fans don't give a shit and that far outweighs the hip hop heads

Man I don't even like the dude but ppl need to stop making up these weak arguements and pretend like anyone out of a niche group of ppl give a shit....just say you don't like him and leave it at that

Drake wanted and aimed to be seen as a great by that same niche crowd you talking about and his peers he will never be able to be that now..... You think he gonna care more about what Becky in Beverly hills thinks about him when his career is said and done or the hip hop community??? Swear y'all think all the nigga care about is money and sales and that's it no the nigga wanted to be great and was being called one of the best lyricist of the new school in the game now he's gotta fever live with being synonymous with a nigga that don't write his raps and if you think one day ppl gonna be like "we don't care he still a great MC" you tripping he'll never get a chance to get that back and for a nigga that was aiming for that that's a blow

You talk to Drake to know what be wants or cares about?

Because history doesn't say that...he never changed his style to be hard, never went super lyrical miracle, never stopped singing even when a lot of hip hop fans shitted on him for it

Go to a club and when a Drake song comes on....go up to a bitch you want to fuck and say "he didn't write this" and see if she gives a fuck or if she just wanna enjoy the music...it's only yall mother fuckers who gonna keep dwelling on it

So like I said you think he don't care about his legacy becuz bitches like his shit??? You keep telling yourself that.... Nigga asking me about pickup lines to Drake songs playing in the background if you have to go from claiming top 5 to that you done took a major hit

If you ain't in the rap game for the mother fuckin cash mane what is your mother fuckin purpose....still holds true

I'd imagine Drake would take money and pussy over what some dusty hip hop head thinks about him

But whatever...if you want to keep making up excuses for not liking him, next time just say you don't like his music and leave it at that

Huh??? Nigga wtf excuse have I made?? Keep it 100 you sleep in ovo pj's huh becuz I ain't said one bad thing about him or his music get out your feelings

Your responses are just wack and don't make sense then...constantly grasping at anything to respond back to me but the shit keeps getting more absurd each time...there has to be a reason why you trying so hard because if you don't dislike his music and enjoy it there's no reason to care who wrote it....just enjoy the music

 

[Chi Snow]

In reality the hip hop culture took the biggest L. think about it.

Not at all

Ghostwriting is at the core of hip hop.

Man hell naw. Niggas woulda ran you outta hip hop in the 80s and 90s if they even got a hint of somebody else pennin your rhymes.

So the fact that for decades now rappers have been open about talking about writing raps for other rappers, yet nobody has been ran out the game for it means nothing to you?

Who?? Who are these rappers that have talked about ghostwriting for a top tier artist for years?

 

[Lefty_]

In reality the hip hop culture took the biggest L. think about it.

Not at all

Ghostwriting is at the core of hip hop.

Man hell naw. Niggas woulda ran you outta hip hop in the 80s and 90s if they even got a hint of somebody else pennin your rhymes.

So the fact that for decades now rappers have been open about talking about writing raps for other rappers, yet nobody has been ran out the game for it means nothing to you?

Man nobody respects them niggas and you know it. If you hold any type of weight in the game at all, nobody is going to allow you to flourish as a top anything MC and niggas is writin your rhymes. You woulda been on blast, and nobody was bout to be makin excuses for you.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

Saved me a titangraph

That's what I'm saying, I'm not knocking what Drake accomplished but it's other rappers who had a big run too. Dmx dropped 2 albums in one year that sold 12 million albums together. Then got blockbuster movie after blockbuster movie.

6 years straight

All what y'all saying is cool but it's sustained dominance. I can't make it any clearer

There is no run that compares to his...y'all not proving it wrong cause you can't

DMx sold 12 mil in one year...cool, that's not 6 years

50 sold what 20-25 mil in 2years...cool, that's not 6 years

I can't compare record sales then and now, the game ain't the same...but top of the charts/selling the most...dominance of urban music

There's been nobody to have this long a reign consistently the unchallenged top guy

Dot/Cole are better rappers and do their thing but they can't knock him off cause he ain't in their lane, he's a hybrid

Niggas a Prius

What? Jay-Z has had a hellva run since 98.

10 multi platinum solo albums, 3 Collaborative albums that all went platinum.

27 top 10 hits as a lead artist and 15 as a featured artist.

19 years and counting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6

 

[soulfulcat]

Im a Drake fan, and after this beef, anytime I listen to a Drake verse I gotta question who wrote it

 

[aneed123]

Y'all hate that man so bad u taking away credit .... it's sad. In the real world he the most popular rapper. Nothing u say or no straw argument u say will change that.

 

[Lefty_]

Last time I seen ya'll hero he was fallin down the steps.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Voltron came thru on time

 

[R.D.]

Saved me a titangraph

That's what I'm saying, I'm not knocking what Drake accomplished but it's other rappers who had a big run too. Dmx dropped 2 albums in one year that sold 12 million albums together. Then got blockbuster movie after blockbuster movie.

6 years straight

All what y'all saying is cool but it's sustained dominance. I can't make it any clearer

There is no run that compares to his...y'all not proving it wrong cause you can't

DMx sold 12 mil in one year...cool, that's not 6 years

50 sold what 20-25 mil in 2years...cool, that's not 6 years

I can't compare record sales then and now, the game ain't the same...but top of the charts/selling the most...dominance of urban music

There's been nobody to have this long a reign consistently the unchallenged top guy

Dot/Cole are better rappers and do their thing but they can't knock him off cause he ain't in their lane, he's a hybrid

Niggas a Prius

What? Jay-Z has had a hellva run since 98.

10 multi platinum solo albums, 3 Collaborative albums that all went platinum.

27 top 10 hits as a lead artist and 15 as a featured artist.

19 years and counting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6

Jay Z had a steady run.

He was never outselling people consistently. Niggas wanna be sassy so bad, can't even see clearly

When 50 came thru, Jay got the FUCK out the way. When Em was coming, it was quiet for everybody. Ja had a run as the top guy while Jay was there. Jay is Jay but Jay ain't do this, nobody has

Nobody is moving Drake out the way

Jay was never consistently killing the charts like this, you never ran to Jay when you needed to chart. The numbers support this, Check the young nigga stats

It's been 6 years, nobody moved him, some of the shit should've dented him and still there at the top he sit, this ain't been seen

 

[R.D.]

Y'all hate that man so bad u taking away credit .... it's sad. In the real world he the most popular rapper. Nothing u say or no straw argument u say will change that.

Bruh I'm not even a Drake fan like that, I gave Views one listen but I can't deny what he's done

I pay attention to hip hop, I know what artists have done. If you wanna say other artists had better runs, that's cool but nobody did what he's doing

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

10 years from now will any of y'all really be still listening to Drake s music? Like hold on let me pop in Thank me later.....the answer to this question is really important

 

[R.D.]

10 years from now will any of y'all really be still listening to Drake s music? Like hold on let me pop in Thank me later.....the answer to this question is really important

Ask a Drake fan

Even if we not, what does it matter

It won't diminish his run, Ja still had his time

You still play rainy days ?

 

[Lefty_]

Saved me a titangraph

That's what I'm saying, I'm not knocking what Drake accomplished but it's other rappers who had a big run too. Dmx dropped 2 albums in one year that sold 12 million albums together. Then got blockbuster movie after blockbuster movie.

6 years straight

All what y'all saying is cool but it's sustained dominance. I can't make it any clearer

There is no run that compares to his...y'all not proving it wrong cause you can't

DMx sold 12 mil in one year...cool, that's not 6 years

50 sold what 20-25 mil in 2years...cool, that's not 6 years

I can't compare record sales then and now, the game ain't the same...but top of the charts/selling the most...dominance of urban music

There's been nobody to have this long a reign consistently the unchallenged top guy

Dot/Cole are better rappers and do their thing but they can't knock him off cause he ain't in their lane, he's a hybrid

Niggas a Prius

What? Jay-Z has had a hellva run since 98.

10 multi platinum solo albums, 3 Collaborative albums that all went platinum.

27 top 10 hits as a lead artist and 15 as a featured artist.

19 years and counting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6

Jay Z had a steady run.

He was never outselling people consistently. Niggas wanna be sassy so bad, can't even see clearly

When 50 came thru, Jay got the FUCK out the way. When Em was coming, it was quiet for everybody. Ja had a run as the top guy while Jay was there. Jay is Jay but Jay ain't do this, nobody has

Nobody is moving Drake out the way

Jay was never consistently killing the charts like this, you never ran to Jay when you needed to chart. The numbers support this, Check the young nigga stats

It's been 6 years, nobody moved him, some of the shit should've dented him and still there at the top he sit, this ain't been seen

"10 number one albums in a row who better than me/only the beatles nobody ahead of me"

Ain't nobody stop Jay from makin noise. You said Jay got out the way for Em and fiddy, but who the fuck didn't? You talkin about 2 historic rises to prominence.

I'll take a warm meal every night over a hot meal on the weekends and eatin potty meat the rest of the week.

This nigga 21 years in and if he tweeted a picture of a rocafella chain and a date under it the IC would break.

I remember that MCHG commercial I came to the IC(still lurkin then) there were already 3 threads before the game even ended.

Drake's arms too short to box.

 

[aneed123]

Jay did his thing. That don't erase what drake is doing now.

 

[i ro ny]

even though my interest in drake*'s music was waning a lil bit before the ghostwriter reveal, i thought he was easily one of the most talented rappers that has broken thru the mainstream in a long time....in an almost "too good to be true" way.

 

[R.D.]

Ja was the top guy

Em was the top guy

50 was the top guy

Wayne was the top guy

Kanye was the top guy

(I'm speaking commercially)

All during Jay run

6 years straight, Drake !!!

Facts only