Meek's reputation or Drake's legacy.... Which took the bigger hit???

[JonnyRoccIT]

Y'all blowing the whole "he didn't write this hook or THIS part " shit outta proportion.

It's like y'all don't understand what kind of artist he is...we've literally have never seen a Hip Hop artist with the Musical range and versatility that Drake has.

The nigga's a hit making machine...he had the fucking biggest record of the year SINGING a Dancehall ballad lol he could literally come out with a country record and make Hip Hop stations play the shit every 30 minutes and win a CMA by the end of the year.

My point is...Drake isn't JUST a rapper...he's many other things, including a Writer which he's won awards for. We don't trip when R&B and pop artists don't write their records...he does those records too AND writes them . But the nigga gets a hook or bridge or some shit from one of his homies and now his whole career is frowned upon.???

Give that man his props...he became the butt of many jokes over the years and is still the hottest artist in the world right now next to Beyonce and shit. That's talent and Perserverance for yo ass brah

I was listening to this one album that came out recently, I think it was called Speakerboxxx/Love Below. One dude on there was singing, playing guitar, piano, conducted orchestras, even rapped a couple of verses. Craziest thing in the world. Man, I miss the old days when people just rapped and sang songs that were given to them.

Lol ehhh idk about being able to really compare those two...2 of the most multi-talented artist music has ever seen though

 

[i ro ny]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Well that would be a loss if puma axed his contract over it which endorsement companies do if you wear a rival product. Meek Mill takes the bigger L because even though Drake and his writing is forever suspect, his actual character isn't. Meek exposed himself as an emotional nigga who don't think before he reacts. In 10 years nobody will give a fuck Drake got help with a song like Energy...but they will remember those twitter and instagram "I'm quitting the internet" only to come back 2 minutes later rants from Meek

nah.

niggas still say "nas lost" and that was 16 years ago.

anybody who cares about the argument (top 5 RAPPER shit) will FOREVER remember this shit.

 

[Shizlansky]

yall need to stop with that "nobody was putting drake* up there" shit.

the nigga was positioned to be THEE nigga in RAP.

Drake have put out 1 rap album and that was with Future.

He did not position himself to be "THEE nigga in rap"

It's impossible to be that nigga in rap when you're not making rap albums.

 

[d1al_t0ne]

Who in here seriously had Drake as a top 5 ever artist before any of shit? The nigga's entry to mainstream was him "freestyling" off a blackberry and still fucking up.

I say that to say, the nigga was and always will be an entertainer who's legacy was always going to be what it is.

 

[BackInWhite]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Well that would be a loss if puma axed his contract over it which endorsement companies do if you wear a rival product. Meek Mill takes the bigger L because even though Drake and his writing is forever suspect, his actual character isn't. Meek exposed himself as an emotional nigga who don't think before he reacts. In 10 years nobody will give a fuck Drake got help with a song like Energy...but they will remember those twitter and instagram "I'm quitting the internet" only to come back 2 minutes later rants from Meek

Boy stop

Only niggas gon forget whole verses of reference tracks is fans

Everybody else gon remember both and immediately not give a fuck

You act like your opinion of a nigga gon change his life

"Oh I know he's a emotional nigga blah blah blah"

So?

And puma didn't axe the contract

Look at you, ready to assign some more L's

 

[BackInWhite]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Well that would be a loss if puma axed his contract over it which endorsement companies do if you wear a rival product. Meek Mill takes the bigger L because even though Drake and his writing is forever suspect, his actual character isn't. Meek exposed himself as an emotional nigga who don't think before he reacts. In 10 years nobody will give a fuck Drake got help with a song like Energy...but they will remember those twitter and instagram "I'm quitting the internet" only to come back 2 minutes later rants from Meek

And drake character been in question

Mr. "And her purse right there"

 

[i ro ny]

yall need to stop with that "nobody was putting drake* up there" shit.

the nigga was positioned to be THEE nigga in RAP.

Drake have put out 1 rap album and that was with Future.

He did not position himself to be "THEE nigga in rap"

It's impossible to be that nigga in rap when you're not making rap albums.

he was POSITIONED as the NEXT BIG THING in HIP HOP. what the fuck are we even talking about.

they gave him one of the best artist deals of ALL time. (https://hitmusicacademy.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/the-breakdown-of-drakes-record-deal-with-cash-moneyuniversal/)

its like yall are re-writing history to yalls liking. its ridiculous.

 

[Shizlansky]

yall need to stop with that "nobody was putting drake* up there" shit.

the nigga was positioned to be THEE nigga in RAP.

Drake have put out 1 rap album and that was with Future.

He did not position himself to be "THEE nigga in rap"

It's impossible to be that nigga in rap when you're not making rap albums.

he was POSITIONED as the NEXT BIG THING in HIP HOP. what the fuck are we even talking about.

they gave him one of the best artist deals of ALL time. (https://hitmusicacademy.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/the-breakdown-of-drakes-record-deal-with-cash-moneyuniversal/)

its like yall are re-writing history to yalls liking. its ridiculous.

But did he put out rap albums?

 

[i ro ny]

yall need to stop with that "nobody was putting drake* up there" shit.

the nigga was positioned to be THEE nigga in RAP.

Drake have put out 1 rap album and that was with Future.

He did not position himself to be "THEE nigga in rap"

It's impossible to be that nigga in rap when you're not making rap albums.

he was POSITIONED as the NEXT BIG THING in HIP HOP. what the fuck are we even talking about.

they gave him one of the best artist deals of ALL time. (https://hitmusicacademy.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/the-breakdown-of-drakes-record-deal-with-cash-moneyuniversal/)

its like yall are re-writing history to yalls liking. its ridiculous.

But did he put out rap albums?

nigga, yes.

his albums are hip-hop and r&b. take care won BEST RAP ALBUM at the grammys in 2013.

it is what it is.

 

[achewon87]

Can't believe y'all really acting like Drake has always been viewed as just sum "OK kinda coo" rapper.... Drake lyrical game had never been questioned till this beef.... Everybody thought he had next for the MC's now he not even viewed as a MC at all I see y'all finna redo Drake's history early on with this one

Word...

Lets not forget...

 

[GetoBoy]

If you niggas are saying the whole Drake Kdot and Cole as the new era best MC'S was never a thing or niggas wasn't saying stuff like as a MC Drake was Jay and niggas like Cole/Kdot was like Nas y'all lying..... And if you think in 10 years nobody will be remembering this you are also lying especially if Drake still making music his pen will forever be a question and he could never be put in the MC category and if y'all think that's just gonna magically go away one day and ppl will just forget it you playing yourself if anything that shadow will get bigger the bigger he gets in the pop world

 

[achewon87]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Most think so...

But I can't give a W to a guy who may not have written the track tho...

That whole shit was weird lol...

 

[BackInWhite]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Most think so...

But I can't give a W to a guy who may not have written the track tho...

That whole shit was weird lol...

That's the only real tangible L that can be assessed to Meek

After that you start delving into chatty patty tmz shit like his relationship or irrelevant shit like his character

Consensus is that he got washed in that lil war of words

I would agree

 

[bck145]

If you niggas are saying the whole Drake Kdot and Cole as the new era best MC'S was never a thing or niggas wasn't saying stuff like as a MC Drake was Jay and niggas like Cole/Kdot was like Nas y'all lying..... And if you think in 10 years nobody will be remembering this you are also lying especially if Drake still making music his pen will forever be a question and he could never be put in the MC category and if y'all think that's just gonna magically go away one day and ppl will just forget it you playing yourself if anything that shadow will get bigger the bigger he gets in the pop world

Your off on that one....drake,dot, and cole were thought next in the game...which is happening right now...no one said shit about the next MC'S

No one will care about the ghostwriting in 10 years...easy and dre are both legends in the rap world even though they don't or didn't write their own shit....all the ghostwriting shit will fall off and the music will be left

People need to stop pretending like people thought Drake was ever going to be some top 10 rapper...no one said that shit...on the same note...meek will never be top 10 either so that whole point is mute on both sides

 

[Shizlansky]

yall need to stop with that "nobody was putting drake* up there" shit.

the nigga was positioned to be THEE nigga in RAP.

Drake have put out 1 rap album and that was with Future.

He did not position himself to be "THEE nigga in rap"

It's impossible to be that nigga in rap when you're not making rap albums.

he was POSITIONED as the NEXT BIG THING in HIP HOP. what the fuck are we even talking about.

they gave him one of the best artist deals of ALL time. (https://hitmusicacademy.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/the-breakdown-of-drakes-record-deal-with-cash-moneyuniversal/)

its like yall are re-writing history to yalls liking. its ridiculous.

But did he put out rap albums?

nigga, yes.

his albums are hip-hop and r&b. take care won BEST RAP ALBUM at the grammys in 2013.

it is what it is.

It was a r&b album. Ain't shit rap about it.

 

[twenty2]

Ok... Serious question...and maybe I've missed something somewhere as I don't really follow the chap, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... But how can Drake even be put in the same talks as Dre, Ye, and Swizz? Them niggas actually make (or at least at some point in time HAVE made) beats and have been very hands on in the the beat making/production process. He MAY be closer to Diddy or Eazy...but even then, we are well aware of their producer skills.

Again, I'm not well versed in Drake-a-nese so please hip me if I'm missing something... But what does that nigga actually do?

And I certainly remember a time where he was being touted as the "next best rapper alive" and to some even "the savior of hip hop"...

 

[bck145]

Ok... Serious question...and maybe I've missed something somewhere as I don't really follow the chap, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... But how can Drake even be put in the same talks as Dre, Ye, and Swizz? Them niggas actually make (or at least at some point in time HAVE made) beats and have been very hands on in the the beat making/production process. He MAY be closer to Diddy or Eazy...but even then, we are well aware of their producer skills.

Again, I'm not well versed in Drake-a-nese so please hip me if I'm missing something... But what does that nigga actually do?

And I certainly remember a time where he was being touted as the "next best rapper alive" and to some even "the savior of hip hop"...

I don't remember ppl ever saying he was the next rapper alive or savior of hip hop.....I remember everyone clowning his soft music...I remember the "Drake the type" jokes...then all of a sudden people said he was the biggest in the industry....sort of caught me off guard since all I knew was no one took him serious

 

[GetoBoy]

If you niggas are saying the whole Drake Kdot and Cole as the new era best MC'S was never a thing or niggas wasn't saying stuff like as a MC Drake was Jay and niggas like Cole/Kdot was like Nas y'all lying..... And if you think in 10 years nobody will be remembering this you are also lying especially if Drake still making music his pen will forever be a question and he could never be put in the MC category and if y'all think that's just gonna magically go away one day and ppl will just forget it you playing yourself if anything that shadow will get bigger the bigger he gets in the pop world

Your off on that one....drake,dot, and cole were thought next in the game...which is happening right now...no one said shit about the next MC'S

No one will care about the ghostwriting in 10 years...easy and dre are both legends in the rap world even though they don't or didn't write their own shit....all the ghostwriting shit will fall off and the music will be left

People need to stop pretending like people thought Drake was ever going to be some top 10 rapper...no one said that shit...on the same note...meek will never be top 10 either so that whole point is mute on both sides

So what do you think ppl are gonna say about Drake in 10 years that they not saying today??? They STILL gonna say he ain't write his shit you think ppl all of a sudden are not gonna say that about Drake???? You brought up easy and dre like ppl don't still say that about them too... He'll have the same legacy as them only difference is they never painted themselves as MCs meanwhile Drake did so it'll be worse

 

[achewon87]

Meek mill will be mentioned with the likes of young berg and bow wow for the unprecedented streak of L's he's collected in a short time. That will be his claim to fame 10 years from now. His career is already fizzling a bit, and it won't be long before he's on reality television where major careers go to die.

Drake's title of good rapper was never his claim to fame, he was just a great artist/package that could rap pretty well, and hold a decent note. Now he is put into the Kanye catagory by apologists because his entertainment and artist value outweigh his talent as a lyricist and that's not what should hold the weight.

Drake was at the top of the mountain, and will be remembered for his time at the top, the same way Ja had his time, the same way P, and others had their couple year reign. Drake will be remembered for his moment. Meek never had his moment, and if he did, it was only to push drake to greater heights.

This why I hate the Internet

Y'all blow shit up and then run with it like it's gospel

Did meek lose a rap battle? Yes

But that's it!

Berg out here gettin robbed and slapped and kicked off reality TV shows

Bow wow going bankrupt, gettin engaged to reality TV show thots and doing joint albums with soulja boy

Stop it

I know the L shit is funny and whatever but y'all be so quick to hand them muhfuckas out for the dumbest shit

I remember it was whole thread on here about how meek lost cuz he was wearing jordans while he had a sponsorship from puma

Only on the internet is wearing a pair of 200 dollar shoes when you gettin paid to wear another brand of shoes a loss

Most think so...

But I can't give a W to a guy who may not have written the track tho...

That whole shit was weird lol...

That's the only real tangible L that can be assessed to Meek

After that you start delving into chatty patty tmz shit like his relationship or irrelevant shit like his character

Consensus is that he got washed in that lil war of words

I would agree

OFC he got washed...

That whole situation was an L for him...

I am just not giving out W's to might be ghostwritten tracks lol...

 

[twenty2]

Ok... Serious question...and maybe I've missed something somewhere as I don't really follow the chap, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... But how can Drake even be put in the same talks as Dre, Ye, and Swizz? Them niggas actually make (or at least at some point in time HAVE made) beats and have been very hands on in the the beat making/production process. He MAY be closer to Diddy or Eazy...but even then, we are well aware of their producer skills.

Again, I'm not well versed in Drake-a-nese so please hip me if I'm missing something... But what does that nigga actually do?

And I certainly remember a time where he was being touted as the "next best rapper alive" and to some even "the savior of hip hop"...

I don't remember ppl ever saying he was the next rapper alive or savior of hip hop.....I remember everyone clowning his soft music...I remember the "Drake the type" jokes...then all of a sudden people said he was the biggest in the industry....sort of caught me off guard since all I knew was no one took him serious

The soft jokes were definitely there...but so were the claims that he was a "dope mc"... And this spans back before Kendrick or Cole ever got known. Why I remember is because it was what made me initially check dude out in the 1st place. Did so... Heard all the singin... And decided it wasn't my cup of tea... ESPECIALLY if that's what was supposed to be a "lyricist".