Master P To Colin Kaepernick: Let's Start Our Own League

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So we gon act like P, always coming up with shot and not following through with it?

What happened to that Better Black TV network?
 
MR.CJ;d-562115 said:
...P knows about sports startups, his Global Mixed Gender Basketball league is off to an incredible start, attracting big name talent like the Gonzalez Twins, Glen "Big Baby" Davis, and Metta World Peace...

LOL at incredible start

That shit goin nowhere

I wouldnt even know it exist if i didnt follow Gonzo twins on IG. And they barely even mention it.

 
ghostdog56;c-10056207 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10056175 said:
ghostdog56;c-10056169 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10056153 said:
gorilla;c-10056145 said:
skpjr78;c-10055727 said:
Smh at you crab ass negros trying so hard to say something negative about one of the realest, if not the realest brother hip hop has ever produced. Stop hating.

If y'all was around back in the pre-Friday era y'all would've told Cube he had money but not Hollywood money. Y'all the same negros would've told Dre he had money but not Apple money. P laughs at you small minded mothafuckas b/c 20+ years ago people like y'all told him that he dreamed too big and he was a fool for turning down his first contract. But while your favorite rappers are still rhyming for gold chains and getting fucked for publishing and show money P has decades worth of paper and the financial and mental freedom to contemplate something as big as starting his own football league. You crab ass negros are just filled with too much self hate to see if for yourselves. Smmfh. The hate is realer than ever.

Real shit right here.

Why do we always have to think so small minded? If we got behind each other we'd do amazing things. The NFL and NBA are dominated by black men. If they all left those leagues would be jack shit. The problem is we as a collective are more comfortable with being players as opposed to owners. Since being brought here we been taught our physical prowess our lane. The greatest inventions in human history have come from black minds but we been taught not to use ours. We will never get anywhere as a people if we keep limiting each other.

man.....black people can do some great shit.

always could.

niggas just limit themselves.

i really aint gonna go into the list but the shit is sicken to watch.

we support fukkery and trolls before we support some era changing shit.

loud niggas always had niggas ear...even when they dont be saying shit...niggas like to hear and see a loud nigga

@beta

we got our own destiny in our hands but rather leave it up to someone else to guide us with it.

an i understand everyone aint built for it....thats cool. but then dont try to talk about how tough you are then.

Kind of off subject but did you deal with racism when you first started your business and if so how did you handle it? @2stepz_ahead

LMAO!!! are you serious?

is this a serious question?

not dissing you...but how deep do you want me to go in this.

@2stepz_ahead as deep as you can get because a lot of black people got business ideas but if the business you are in you have to deal with white people it scares black folk off so I'm just trying to see how black business owners overcame this obstacle

maaaaan.

i am in the pharma industry.i deal with multibillion dollar companies,. Merck, pfiser, j&j, biogenidec,hospira, genetec, Amgen and the list goes on. those are all my customers as are standford, florida state, cornell and duke.

nothing but privileged white male dominated.

the only black ceo i know of is from Merck and hes from my hood...in north philly
http://fortune.com/2017/08/15/merck-ceo-ken-frazier/

this nigga arrives at company retreats in a copter.

thats boss shit.

but yea....it is very fukking hard to navigate within pharma...even on the academia level i catch shit.

people always questioning shit, wanting to know my credentials, second guessing what im doing and wanting to know what college i went to and who trained me. niggas wanting to undercut me, not pay me and all the normal business shit.

the part that til this day still fukks with me is how i was treated by black people.

while one black dude gave me my first real big break....the break that put me into 7figures.....it was two black people that sold me the fukk out worse than any white person ever did.

shit still hurts too cuz of how it happened.

so black dude at a company in gaithersburg maryland HGSi...dude sold me out to a white dude an his chick.

so when i come to do work....i have to leave service reports...he would give them to the chick who would then give them to her man. dude would study them and learn what i was doing in hopes of taking the business away cuz his lady was the one who brings in contractors. so one day i go there and they tell me they dont need me anymore...i ask why...dude starts laughing say...well such and such gave your reports to such an such an now hes the one who fixes them. an it was said you use bad parts. im looking at him..like dude you know i dont why didnt you say anything. i tell him its not true and i have reciepts..but he finds it funny. this mexican dude was pissed because he said it was a conflict of interest an they can be sued. i just walked away from it. i called my lawyer an it was a bunch of shit.....but im like ...yo how can you help them like that? and why you find it funny? i was mad for like a week at that shit cuase i hooked the black dude up with cigars from the DR and this chick i knew. my homies from DC wanted to kill the white boy but im like...really?

shit thats just 1 story out of 7 1/2 years of shit.
 
TheGOAT;c-10056275 said:
MR.CJ;d-562115 said:
...P knows about sports startups, his Global Mixed Gender Basketball league is off to an incredible start, attracting big name talent like the Gonzalez Twins, Glen "Big Baby" Davis, and Metta World Peace...

LOL at incredible start

That shit goin nowhere

I wouldnt even know it exist if i didnt follow Gonzo twins on IG. And they barely even mention it.

Big names like Glen Davis? Lmao. If those big names then that's a shame. At least Cube Big 3 league was able to get players peoplr actually want to see. This is what I mean when I say niggas think you can just throw any product out and its gonna work. Starting an entire league is not some shit you just do on a whim...
 
I watched Big3 1 time

That shit weak too.

Would be interesting if it was full court but them guys dont wanna really compete.

Shit was just jumpshots all day with halfass defense.

Boring
 
AggieLean.;c-10056394 said:
First thang id be worried about if I was involved or playing would be if I was gone get my check in time or at all.

Only if Birdman gets a stake

But what if Hov, Diddy, P, and Slim put their $$ together for this...throw some powerful women in there too and some athletes

But the insurance on all the players would be a big ol bitch

 
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Qiv_Owan;c-10056478 said:
AggieLean.;c-10056394 said:
First thang id be worried about if I was involved or playing would be if I was gone get my check in time or at all.

Only if Birdman gets a stake

But what if Hov, Diddy, P, and Slim put their $$ together for this...throw some powerful women in there too and some athletes

But the insurance on all the players would be a big ol bitch

Yea, it would take a collaborative effort from a few people to make this work. Percy should reach out to Duffy and a few others
 
Its a great idea, but theres a few logistical problems;

1. Where are they going to play? There's a stadium in every city but they are either owned or partners with the NFL (I honestly don't know the relationship between the stadiums and the NFL)

Conceivably, they can play at the same arenas that the NFL uses. The teams in the NFL only play in a stadium once a week. Otherwise those stadiums are empty.

3. Unless the games are televised they're not going to make any money. That was the problem with the ABA and the USFL. I remember I was a kid when the USFL started. They drafted Herschel Walker who won the Heisman trophy. But we never got to see him play because the games weren't televised.

Its not that difficult to raise the money. If you have a solid idea you can get investors to either buy stocks or bonds in the league. I'd say you'd need to raise at least $1Billion to keep the league afloat. That shouldn't be too difficult but like I said, if the games aren't televised it won't work.

Now that I think about it, an alternative to the NFL could be the same as when the NFC and the AFC merged in the 60s. The best team from each league would play each other in a Super-Superbowl.

Anything's possible.

 
Qiv_Owan;c-10056478 said:
AggieLean.;c-10056394 said:
First thang id be worried about if I was involved or playing would be if I was gone get my check in time or at all.

Only if Birdman gets a stake

But what if Hov, Diddy, P, and Slim put their $$ together for this...throw some powerful women in there too and some athletes

But the insurance on all the players would be a big ol bitch

nah...leave birdman out of this.

niggas need to be paid
 
5 Grand;c-10056512 said:
Its a great idea, but theres a few logistical problems;

1. Where are they going to play? There's a stadium in every city but they are either owned or partners with the NFL (I honestly don't know the relationship between the stadiums and the NFL)

Conceivably, they can play at the same arenas that the NFL uses. The teams in the NFL only play in a stadium once a week. Otherwise those stadiums are empty.

3. Unless the games are televised they're not going to make any money. That was the problem with the ABA and the USFL. I remember I was a kid when the USFL started. They drafted Herschel Walker who won the Heisman trophy. But we never got to see him play because the games weren't televised.

Its not that difficult to raise the money. If you have a solid idea you can get investors to either buy stocks or bonds in the league. I'd say you'd need to raise at least $1Billion to keep the league afloat. That shouldn't be too difficult but like I said, if the games aren't televised it won't work.

Now that I think about it, an alternative to the NFL could be the same as when the NFC and the AFC merged in the 60s. The best team from each league would play each other in a Super-Superbowl.

Anything's possible.

the cowboys are worth 4 billion...

just the cowboys...not their stadium.....just the team
 
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brown321;c-10056522 said:
^Usfl games were on tv and they don’t have to play in nfl stadiums

You have to generate revenue to cover costs...and larger NFL stadiums provide the best chance for that...outside of tv deals and even then teams can suffer from that if they get put on blackout status due to low sales
 
2stepz_ahead;c-10056563 said:
5 Grand;c-10056512 said:
Its a great idea, but theres a few logistical problems;

1. Where are they going to play? There's a stadium in every city but they are either owned or partners with the NFL (I honestly don't know the relationship between the stadiums and the NFL)

Conceivably, they can play at the same arenas that the NFL uses. The teams in the NFL only play in a stadium once a week. Otherwise those stadiums are empty.

3. Unless the games are televised they're not going to make any money. That was the problem with the ABA and the USFL. I remember I was a kid when the USFL started. They drafted Herschel Walker who won the Heisman trophy. But we never got to see him play because the games weren't televised.

Its not that difficult to raise the money. If you have a solid idea you can get investors to either buy stocks or bonds in the league. I'd say you'd need to raise at least $1Billion to keep the league afloat. That shouldn't be too difficult but like I said, if the games aren't televised it won't work.

Now that I think about it, an alternative to the NFL could be the same as when the NFC and the AFC merged in the 60s. The best team from each league would play each other in a Super-Superbowl.

Anything's possible.

the cowboys are worth 4 billion...

just the cowboys...not their stadium.....just the team

I'm not going to front like I've seen their income statement, but I'd guess that they're worth $4 Billion due to ticket sales. So its the stadium itself that generates that revenue, not the actual team.

The NFL makes money from television commercials, but each team makes money from ticket sales, parking, hot dog sales, beer, T-shirts, etc.

Having said that, I wonder if the team owns the stadium that they play in?
 
5 Grand;c-10056610 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10056563 said:
5 Grand;c-10056512 said:
Its a great idea, but theres a few logistical problems;

1. Where are they going to play? There's a stadium in every city but they are either owned or partners with the NFL (I honestly don't know the relationship between the stadiums and the NFL)

Conceivably, they can play at the same arenas that the NFL uses. The teams in the NFL only play in a stadium once a week. Otherwise those stadiums are empty.

3. Unless the games are televised they're not going to make any money. That was the problem with the ABA and the USFL. I remember I was a kid when the USFL started. They drafted Herschel Walker who won the Heisman trophy. But we never got to see him play because the games weren't televised.

Its not that difficult to raise the money. If you have a solid idea you can get investors to either buy stocks or bonds in the league. I'd say you'd need to raise at least $1Billion to keep the league afloat. That shouldn't be too difficult but like I said, if the games aren't televised it won't work.

Now that I think about it, an alternative to the NFL could be the same as when the NFC and the AFC merged in the 60s. The best team from each league would play each other in a Super-Superbowl.

Anything's possible.

the cowboys are worth 4 billion...

just the cowboys...not their stadium.....just the team

I'm not going to front like I've seen their income statement, but I'd guess that they're worth $4 Billion due to ticket sales. So its the stadium itself that generates that revenue, not the actual team.

The NFL makes money from television commercials, but each team makes money from ticket sales, parking, hot dog sales, beer, T-shirts, etc.

Having said that, I wonder if the team owns the stadium that they play in?

people come to see the team.....the stadium is the holding pen.
 
2stepz_ahead;c-10056563 said:
5 Grand;c-10056512 said:
Its a great idea, but theres a few logistical problems;

1. Where are they going to play? There's a stadium in every city but they are either owned or partners with the NFL (I honestly don't know the relationship between the stadiums and the NFL)

Conceivably, they can play at the same arenas that the NFL uses. The teams in the NFL only play in a stadium once a week. Otherwise those stadiums are empty.

3. Unless the games are televised they're not going to make any money. That was the problem with the ABA and the USFL. I remember I was a kid when the USFL started. They drafted Herschel Walker who won the Heisman trophy. But we never got to see him play because the games weren't televised.

Its not that difficult to raise the money. If you have a solid idea you can get investors to either buy stocks or bonds in the league. I'd say you'd need to raise at least $1Billion to keep the league afloat. That shouldn't be too difficult but like I said, if the games aren't televised it won't work.

Now that I think about it, an alternative to the NFL could be the same as when the NFC and the AFC merged in the 60s. The best team from each league would play each other in a Super-Superbowl.

Anything's possible.

the cowboys are worth 4 billion...

just the cowboys...not their stadium.....just the team

Jerry Jones is worth 75% of that, 10% is legacy
 
a league can be started but u can't compete with the nfl. the games would need to be played during spring when football fans are missing football. u would need to get a tv deal but that would be hard since the major networks pump money into the nfl. they are going to want to make sure u do not try to compete with a product they have already paid for.

u are also competing against the cfl and the arena league for players. the average arena league salary is 50k. u are going to have to rent a stadium (small stadium). u are going to need insurance and pay a front office staff and medical personnel. u will have to pay travel expenses. so depending on the roster size all potential owners are looking at a loss millions until the league gets established. not too many people (even former players) will be willing to put money into this.
 
semi-auto-mato;c-10057032 said:
a league can be started but u can't compete with the nfl. the games would need to be played during spring when football fans are missing football. u would need to get a tv deal but that would be hard since the major networks pump money into the nfl. they are going to want to make sure u do not try to compete with a product they have already paid for.

u are also competing against the cfl and the arena league for players. the average arena league salary is 50k. u are going to have to rent a stadium (small stadium). u are going to need insurance and pay a front office staff and medical personnel. u will have to pay travel expenses. so depending on the roster size all potential owners are looking at a loss millions until the league gets established. not too many people (even former players) will be willing to put money into this.

This is the shit people seem to gloss over when they say just start a league.
 
blackrain;c-10056571 said:
brown321;c-10056522 said:
^Usfl games were on tv and they don’t have to play in nfl stadiums

You have to generate revenue to cover costs...and larger NFL stadiums provide the best chance for that...outside of tv deals and even then teams can suffer from that if they get put on blackout status due to low sales

The Superdome isn’t going to be filled up by fans of the the New Orleans UHHH & Atlanta Shawty’s.

Small stadiums would be the way to go.
 

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