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harry knucklez
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KillaCham;6808316 said:With ALL these numbers rounded up ... and if hypothetically every single person on the label sold 500k (when most didn't even sell 250k) .. still under 50 million total. A more realistic number would be 35 million-ish.
Master P - 10 million
Snoop Dogg - 5 million
Smilk Da Shocker - 3 million
TRU - 3 million
C-Murder - 2.5 million
Mystikal - 2.5 million
Mia X - 1 million
Young Bleed - 1 million
Soulja Slim - 1 million
504 Boyz - 1 million
Lil Romeo - 1 million
Fiend - 750k
EA-Ski - 500k
West Coast Bad Boyz - 500k
Sonya C - 500k
Lil Ric - 500k
Dangerous Dame - 500k
Tre-8 - 500k
Skull Duggery - 500k
Steady Mobb'n - 500k
Kane & Abel - 500k
Mr. Serv-On - 500k
Sons of Funk - 500k
Mac - 500k
Big Ed - 500k
Magic - 500k
Gambino Family - 500k
Ghetto Commission - 500k
Prime Suspects - 500k
Mo B. Dick - 500k
Lil Soldiers - 500k
Mercedes - 500k
Lil Italy - 500k
Mr. Marcelo - 500k
Krazy - 500k
Choppa - 500k
I Got the Hook Up (soundtrack) - 1 million
Mean Green the album - 500k
We Can't Be Stopped (No Limit Records album) - 500k
Where's he "I'm Bout It" soundtrack? That sold a lot of units when it came out.
And other than allegedly paying mom & pop stores to scan No Limit albums twice, P would also buy his own albums too.
CashmoneyDux
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you old niggas are delusional.
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OGClarenceBoddicker
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_Menace_;6809195 said:Like I said I WANNA SEE THE RECEIPTS !
Show me a legit source with Numbers over 30mill at least.
No hate on Ps hustle but 75million people weren't fucking with his music
who are you fucking clowns and where do you come from
StillFaggyAF
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SWAMPGOD;6813450 said:_Menace_;6809195 said:Like I said I WANNA SEE THE RECEIPTS !
Show me a legit source with Numbers over 30mill at least.
No hate on Ps hustle but 75million people weren't fucking with his music
who are you fucking clowns and where do you come from
i believe Menace is from Cali
i swear i remember laughing at the fact that cain and abel went plat so some of killa cham's shit is wrong as hell. this dude said no limit probably sold 2 or 3 million outside the u.s.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too. mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, dre came out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too. mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, dre came out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
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UPTOWNCONNEXX;6813589 said:i swear i remember laughing at the fact that cain and abel went plat so some of killa cham's shit is wrong as hell. this dude said no limit probably sold 2 or 3 million outside the u.s.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, etc dre cam out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
Stop acting like y'all know shit about international sales. 1 album selling 3 million outside of the US is A FUCKING LOT and to think any Master P album did more than 500k outside the US with any album is absurd.
300k is considered Platinum in the UK, that's how small sales are there compared to the US.
Nobody knew who Master P was outside of the US which is why none of his albums or singles are certified Gold or Platinum in any country outside of the states. And I can't find any proof that any of his albums even made any international charts. No Limit was domestic
Y'all gotta stop putting a year limit on his sells....if you include EVERYTHING including albums sales AND singles sales from the FIRST no limit album to drop to the very last one and you include worldwide sales as well the 75 million isn't that far fetched if for no other reason then the volume of how much music has been released from no limit and the popularity that tank had.....for a comparison birdman has said cash money has sold 150 MILLION records and has sold over 500 MILLION songs so looking at it like that 75 million from a company that has released way more music isn't that unbelievable
Kalecrunch
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Death Row has sold nearly 150 million albums worldwide, and generated close to $750 million in revenue.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Row_Records
Lol at 90s babies difficulty believing people in the mid to late 90's actually purchased albums and singles regularly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Row_Records
Lol at 90s babies difficulty believing people in the mid to late 90's actually purchased albums and singles regularly.
Kalecrunch;6813669 said:Death Row has sold nearly 150 million albums worldwide, and generated close to $750 million in revenue.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Row_Records
Lol at 90s babies difficulty believing people in the mid to late 90's actually purchased albums and singles regularly.
I'm saying tho... I remember those days like it was yesterday I'm out here in Cali but wasn't a week that went by when I wasn't checking for the next album with a tank on the back to drop then open em up and mark the days for the new releases that were posted inside the credits book
metal face terrorist
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Great. Another P thread. U niggas live in past too much. The 90s over with. Move on.
The Nuisance
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5 Grand;6808215 said:I'm sure he did sell 75 million which is great.
No disrespect but it was the beats that carried No Limit. The MCs were average at best.
With the exception of Mystikal, Mac, Fiend, Mia X & Mr. Magic all of them had real talent and could have been signed to other labels
Aztec_Kang
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I don't know exactly how many records master p sold but he sold records. I don't think anyone knows exactly how many he sold. Who cares. He did some damage in the game no matter exactly how much he sold.l
Knock_Twice
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UPTOWNCONNEXX;6813589 said:i swear i remember laughing at the fact that cain and abel went plat so some of killa cham's shit is wrong as hell. this dude said no limit probably sold 2 or 3 million outside the u.s.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too. mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, dre came out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
Lol
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TrillRussell
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Found this in an article..thought i'd leave it here
"The Peak Of Success
1998 was the definitive year for Master P and No Limit Records. 1998 saw the release of Master P’s penultimate album “MP Da Last Don”. That album debuted at #1 on Billboard’s Top 200 Chart and sold a whopping 500,000 copies in its first week alone. The album would eventually go on to sell more than four million units. Capitalizing on their success, No Limit signed super star rapper Snoop Dogg whose deal with Death Row had recently expired. Snoop’s first No Limit album “Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told” debuted at #1 on Billboard, sold 800,000 units in its first two weeks and would eventually be certified 2X platinum. Thanks to Snoop and the other hit making artists at No Limit, Master P’s label sold more than 20 million albums in 1998 alone.
As if this wasn’t enough, while No Limit was tearing up the Billboard charts, Master P was expanding his empire into a diverse array of side businesses. He launched a sports management company, a clothing line, a real estate firm, a phone sex business, a high end travel agency, a video game company and a film studio. No Limit Films produced a series of straight to VHS movies that routinely sold millions of copies. Between 1992 and 1998, No Limit Records sold $120 million worth of albums and in 1998 alone Master P’s various business ventures generated revenues of more than $160 million. As of March 2013, No Limit Records has sold nearly 80 million albums worldwide and Master P has a personal net worth of $350 million!"
"The Peak Of Success
1998 was the definitive year for Master P and No Limit Records. 1998 saw the release of Master P’s penultimate album “MP Da Last Don”. That album debuted at #1 on Billboard’s Top 200 Chart and sold a whopping 500,000 copies in its first week alone. The album would eventually go on to sell more than four million units. Capitalizing on their success, No Limit signed super star rapper Snoop Dogg whose deal with Death Row had recently expired. Snoop’s first No Limit album “Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told” debuted at #1 on Billboard, sold 800,000 units in its first two weeks and would eventually be certified 2X platinum. Thanks to Snoop and the other hit making artists at No Limit, Master P’s label sold more than 20 million albums in 1998 alone.
As if this wasn’t enough, while No Limit was tearing up the Billboard charts, Master P was expanding his empire into a diverse array of side businesses. He launched a sports management company, a clothing line, a real estate firm, a phone sex business, a high end travel agency, a video game company and a film studio. No Limit Films produced a series of straight to VHS movies that routinely sold millions of copies. Between 1992 and 1998, No Limit Records sold $120 million worth of albums and in 1998 alone Master P’s various business ventures generated revenues of more than $160 million. As of March 2013, No Limit Records has sold nearly 80 million albums worldwide and Master P has a personal net worth of $350 million!"
Sion;6813855 said:UPTOWNCONNEXX;6813589 said:i swear i remember laughing at the fact that cain and abel went plat so some of killa cham's shit is wrong as hell. this dude said no limit probably sold 2 or 3 million outside the u.s.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too. mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, dre came out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
Michael Jackson sold 400 million records (some estimates claim he sold 750 million & The Beatles sold a billion) worldwide - 170 million of which could be certified (remember MJ & the Jackson 5 pre-date the RIAA), so the RIAA wasn't even certifying albums until later on. For a period of time the RIAA couldn't even trace cassette sales because they were so massively produced.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists
If you also look, that list INCLUDES SINGLES, it says Rihanna has sold 150 million albums (114 million of which could be certified) but Rihanna has only sold over 30 million studio albums & Eminem has sold 97.2 million. It also makes mention that certain artists could not be added due to lack of reporting from uncredited sources. So it's highly possible then that cats like Master P hell even Michael Jackson may have sold more albums than reported.
But Rihanna is a part of the digital age where you can purchase every song on the album individually as if it were a single. She released like 7 albums in the last 9 years and every time she drops another one, you got non-singles that don't get certified but are gonna sell anywhere from 50k to 400k. That's what makes it so much harder to track. That wasn't around at all during No Limit days.
Also, Rihanna is an international artist. A good amount of countries either don't track sales or don't certify singles/albums.... and again, Master P wasn't international at all. So the margin between certified sales and actual sales would not be that much in his case.
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Sion;6813855 said:UPTOWNCONNEXX;6813589 said:i swear i remember laughing at the fact that cain and abel went plat so some of killa cham's shit is wrong as hell. this dude said no limit probably sold 2 or 3 million outside the u.s.
you cant be serious. the UK, France, JAPAN ....... just 1 master P album covers that 3 million. what about snoop dogg, silk the shocker, and mystical???
dont get it twisted, there is some reaching going on in this thread. you gotta think master P did have a helluva run during that time but there were others doing things too. mase was crazy, jay z had hard knock life out, dre came out with the second chronic during this time and eminems first album, not to mention lauryn hill and the fugees
yall are basically saying master p sold nearly 20 million units (singles/albums) a year for 3 or 4 years. that is michael jackson numbers fam.
thriller sold like 22 million during its original release period. im sorry but master P has never had a thiller type year, even with all the cd's he was releasing. and by selling singles you'd make less money. no way he wouldnt have limited the amount of singles he pressed up in favor of having to buy the full album to get the song. top shelf cd's back then were like $15-$17. those singles were just to hold ppl over until the albums were ready to roll out. thats why you hear ppl in this thread saying the single was sold out.
the fact that he's counting singles and albums and including international sales makes it more believable. but you have to remember most rap album/single sales are made in white america. so the numbers you see on riaa etc are pretty accurate. those young white girls were buying no limit and fugees on the same trip to the mall. its not like they were checking for the underling artists unless those artist had a hit song. which the majority didnt.
again thriller did 22 million in the us alone. that number wont be topped by any other album or any label releasing albums in a years time. so imagine if you count michael's international numbers too!!
im not sure about 75 million for no limit in 3 or 4 years. i have to think about that.
Michael Jackson sold 400 million records (some estimates claim he sold 750 million & The Beatles sold a billion) worldwide - 170 million of which could be certified (remember MJ & the Jackson 5 pre-date the RIAA), so the RIAA wasn't even certifying albums until later on. For a period of time the RIAA couldn't even trace cassette sales because they were so massively produced.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists
If you also look, that list INCLUDES SINGLES, it says Rihanna has sold 150 million albums (114 million of which could be certified) but Rihanna has only sold over 30 million studio albums & Eminem has sold 97.2 million. It also makes mention that certain artists could not be added due to lack of reporting from uncredited sources. So it's highly possible then that cats like Master P hell even Michael Jackson may have sold more albums than reported.
Michael Jackson doesn't pre-date the RIAA, he pre-dates Soundscan which came out in 1991. RIAA counts how many units were shipped to record stores, Soundscan counts how many units were actually scanned at the cash register.
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