Marcus Garvey and God

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zombie;6062878 said:
Buddha being born into a warrior class does not mean he was a warrior.

This only proves that buddha was a pussy instead of embracing life he ran from it his whole religion is about running from reality. just like how he ran from his role of prince. Christ had the strength to choose to accept the cup that was given to him, to live life until it's end and to give HIS life for what he knew to be true. It's "thou shalt not murder" the god of abraham will slaughter the wicked.

...then the God of Abraham is a hypocrite for the murders he committed throughout the Bible.

Buddha did not run from anything as you claim. The purpose of his journey was to abandon a life of naivety and to return with the teachings of the greater spiritual life as he did for his wife, his son and his state. He set to overthrow the caste system, the biggest hindrance to his people, and thus was a true warrior.

Christ died a lunatic and ultimately in vain with no wife nor children and a bunch of gullible sheep waiting for his "return"... all the while continuing to be persecuted by the Roman government.
 
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bambu;6062836 said:
Oceanic ;6062456 said:
bambu;6059175 said:
I think oceanic is just trying ( in vain ) to find accomplices for his pan atheist beliefs.......

Then you would be wrong. I don't have any use for Garvey's philosophy. I thought most of the book was idiotic and immature. In addition, I think his theological beliefs are erroneous.

So tell me why I need a Christian to support pan atheism?

Well if you aren't here to build.......

Then you are trying to destroy...............

& failing miserably..................

.. you don't see anybody checking for your circle 7 thread do you? If I did indeed fail, you would have been able to properly defend it and the real Muslims wouldn't be in there agreeing with me.

I'm here to build by debate. Inevitably, weak theories and ideas are crushed under the weight of stronger ones. I Can't help that... and neither can your gods.
 
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Oceanic ;6063039 said:
zombie;6062878 said:
Buddha being born into a warrior class does not mean he was a warrior.

This only proves that buddha was a pussy instead of embracing life he ran from it his whole religion is about running from reality. just like how he ran from his role of prince. Christ had the strength to choose to accept the cup that was given to him, to live life until it's end and to give HIS life for what he knew to be true. It's "thou shalt not murder" the god of abraham will slaughter the wicked.

...then the God of Abraham is a hypocrite for the murders he committed throughout the Bible.

Buddha did not run from anything as you claim. The purpose of his journey was to abandon a life of naivety and to return with the teachings of the greater spiritual life as he did for his wife, his son and his state. He set to overthrow the caste system, the biggest hindrance to his people, and thus was a true warrior.

Christ died a lunatic and ultimately in vain with no wife nor children and a bunch of gullible sheep waiting for his "return"... all the while continuing to be persecuted by the Roman government.

God does not murder he kills there is a huge difference, buddha adandoned his only son to sit under a fucking tree and ponder the in's and outs of the universe. He was born a prince and therefore he had a responsibility BUT he chose not to accept IT he ran from it. Christ had children of the heart who chose to believe in his teachings, they believed it so much that they were willing to die for it.

Buddha whole teaching can be summed up as being the rejection of desire this is a fucking stupid teaching. because it is the desire too do good that improves life. embrace positive desire and fighting against negative desire that is life. Ancient rome is rumble but the teachings of jesus still live on.
 
Oceanic ;6062464 said:
Ajackson17;6059915 said:
It's your religion so you should really think deeply and channel deeply to understand the roots of your belief like Marcus Garvey done.

Are you speaking to me here or in general?

It's interesting that you observe Buddhist thought in his writings. I didn't catch them.

Just in general, when I discuss ideas, philosphies, and etc I speak in generalities and it doesn't have to pertain to one person, cause generally more than 1 person is dealing with some falsehoods. There are a few christians that are very invovled with knowledge, history, philiosphies, that know what other religions entail and etc.
 
zombie;6062723 said:
Ajackson17;6059915 said:
Oceanic ;6055777 said:
Ajackson17;6054674 said:
Only 3 niggas discussing this or the others are just too fucking stupid to answer?

What do you think about it?

He has more of a Buddhist thought process mixed with heavy christian ideology. A very metaphysical thought process that the average christian should be thinking about. It's your religion so you should really think deeply and channel deeply to understand the roots of your belief like Marcus Garvey done. That's why he is a GOAT and not a sheep.

There is no buddhist throught is garvey. Buddhism is a philosophy of death and nothingness in contrast and in a sense garvey wanted us to be warriors not fucking cowards like buddhism would have us be.

I don't think Buddhism is cowardly, I just think it's a higher level of connection with people, but obiviously we haven't reached it. If we are to be peaceful and yet warriors. I think the original Buddha(before you try to correct me and tell me there are multiple buddhas) was trying to attain an inner peace and with nature and becoming one while maintaining limited amount of technology. It's more about connections, but not letting the destructive portion of yourself take root and cause the world more mayhem.
 
Oceanic ;6063039 said:
zombie;6062878 said:
Buddha being born into a warrior class does not mean he was a warrior.

This only proves that buddha was a pussy instead of embracing life he ran from it his whole religion is about running from reality. just like how he ran from his role of prince. Christ had the strength to choose to accept the cup that was given to him, to live life until it's end and to give HIS life for what he knew to be true. It's "thou shalt not murder" the god of abraham will slaughter the wicked.

...then the God of Abraham is a hypocrite for the murders he committed throughout the Bible.

Buddha did not run from anything as you claim. The purpose of his journey was to abandon a life of naivety and to return with the teachings of the greater spiritual life as he did for his wife, his son and his state. He set to overthrow the caste system, the biggest hindrance to his people, and thus was a true warrior.

Christ died a lunatic and ultimately in vain with no wife nor children and a bunch of gullible sheep waiting for his "return"... all the while continuing to be persecuted by the Roman government.

You don't need to attack Yeshua like that. They were both of men trying to teach humans how to quit being so damn destructive. Yet, we fail miserably each day.
 
Oceanic ;6063067 said:
bambu;6062836 said:
Oceanic ;6062456 said:
bambu;6059175 said:
I think oceanic is just trying ( in vain ) to find accomplices for his pan atheist beliefs.......

Then you would be wrong. I don't have any use for Garvey's philosophy. I thought most of the book was idiotic and immature. In addition, I think his theological beliefs are erroneous.

So tell me why I need a Christian to support pan atheism?

Well if you aren't here to build.......

Then you are trying to destroy...............

& failing miserably..................

.. you don't see anybody checking for your circle 7 thread do you? If I did indeed fail, you would have been able to properly defend it and the real Muslims wouldn't be in there agreeing with me.

I'm here to build by debate. Inevitably, weak theories and ideas are crushed under the weight of stronger ones. I Can't help that... and neither can your gods.

Lol.....

Why you worried about my threads.....

And if you must know.....

I have had several Pm's regarding noble drew Ali & other topics.......

You mad cause your theories cannot stand up to scientific scrutiny ......

I am defending my thread, atheist.....

Perhaps you should do the same......

*** You fail the Gods ***
 
Ajackson17;6064354 said:
Can't you niggas just intellectually battle and leave the pettiness away.

OK............

How about this.............

Drew_Ali;6064354 said:
CHAPTER XLVIII

THE END OF TIME AND THE FULFILLING OF THE PROPHESIES


1. The last Prophet in these days is Noble Drew Ali, who was prepared divinely in due time by Allah to redeem men from their sinful ways; and to warn them of the great wrath which is sure to come upon the earth.

2. John the Baptist was the forerunner of Jesus in those days, to warn and stir up the nation and prepare them to receive the divine creed which was to be taught by Jesus.

3. In these modern days there came a forerunner of Jesus, who was divinely prepared by the great God-Allah and his name is Marcus Garvey, who did teach and warn the nations of the earth to prepare to meet the coming Prophet; who was to bring the true and divine Creed of Islam, and his name is Noble Drew Ali who was prepared and sent to this earth by Allah, to teach the old time religion and the everlasting gospel to the sons of men. That every nation shall and must worship under their own vine and fig tree, and return to their own and be one with their Father God-Allah.

4. The Moorish Science Temple of America is a lawfully chartered and incorporated organization. Any subordinate Temple that desires to receive a charter; the prophet has them to issue to every state throughout the United States, etc.

5. That the world may hear and know the truth, that among the descendants of Africa there is still much wisdom to be learned in these days for the redemption of the sons of men under Love, Truth, Peace, Freedom, and Justice.

6. We, as a clean and pure nation descended from the inhabitants of Africa, do not desire to amalgamate or marry into the families of the pale skin nations of Europe. Neither serve the gods of their religion, because our forefathers are the true and divine founders of the first religious creed, for the redemption and salvation of mankind on earth.

7. Therefore we are returning the Church and Christianity back to the European Nations, as it was prepared by their forefathers for their earthly salvation.

8. While we, the Moorish Americans are returning to Islam, which was founded by our forefathers for our earthly and divine salvation.

9. The covenant of the great God-Allah: "Honor they father and they mother that thy days may be longer upon the earth land, which the Lord thy God, Allah hath given thee!"

10. Come all ye Asiatics of America and hear the truth about your nationality and birthrights, because you are not negroes. Learn of your forefathers ancient and divine Creed. That you will learn to love instead of hate.

11. We are trying to uplift fallen humanity. Come and link yourselves with the families of nations. We honor all the true and divine prophets.

 
zombie;6063161 said:
God does not murder he kills there is a huge difference

Any killing done by a supreme being is arguably unlawful and as such can be labeled murder.

zombie;6063161 said:
buddha adandoned his only son

Back then in ancient times, the journey he took was comparable to going off to college in today's time. He did not abandon his son. On Gautama's return, Rahula was educated in the teachings through his father.

Christ never returned

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zombie;6063161 said:
He was born a prince and therefore he had a responsibility BUT he chose not to accept IT he ran from it.

He was Prince when he left and was Prince when he returned.

zombie;6063161 said:
Buddha whole teaching can be summed up as being the rejection of desire this is a fucking stupid teaching.

You misunderstand. As you've said, it is the desire to do good that enhances life so if what you say is true, there would be no Buddhahood to obtain. What Buddhism teaches is the repudiation of desire for permanence. The root of suffering lies in that desire.. and craving, which is the desire for more than what is necessary at present.

 
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Ajackson17;6063349 said:
Oceanic ;6063039 said:
zombie;6062878 said:
Buddha being born into a warrior class does not mean he was a warrior.

This only proves that buddha was a pussy instead of embracing life he ran from it his whole religion is about running from reality. just like how he ran from his role of prince. Christ had the strength to choose to accept the cup that was given to him, to live life until it's end and to give HIS life for what he knew to be true. It's "thou shalt not murder" the god of abraham will slaughter the wicked.

...then the God of Abraham is a hypocrite for the murders he committed throughout the Bible.

Buddha did not run from anything as you claim. The purpose of his journey was to abandon a life of naivety and to return with the teachings of the greater spiritual life as he did for his wife, his son and his state. He set to overthrow the caste system, the biggest hindrance to his people, and thus was a true warrior.

Christ died a lunatic and ultimately in vain with no wife nor children and a bunch of gullible sheep waiting for his "return"... all the while continuing to be persecuted by the Roman government.

You don't need to attack Yeshua like that. They were both of men trying to teach humans how to quit being so damn destructive. Yet, we fail miserably each day.

I don't have to but it's funny. It's partly entertainment; don't take those things personally.
 
bambu;6063922 said:
Why you worried about my threads.....

The same reason you're in mine right now I guess.

bambu;6063922 said:
And if you must know.....

I have had several Pm's regarding noble drew Ali & other topics........

LOL.. Oh?

bambu;6063922 said:
You mad cause your theories cannot stand up to scientific scrutiny ......

Says the guy who doesn't accept science.

bambu;6063922 said:
In these modern days there came a forerunner of Jesus, who was divinely prepared by the great God-Allah and his name is Marcus Garvey, who did teach

CTFU @ a "prophet" writing "prophesies" after the man's life.. and then adding his own zesty spin.
 
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Lol @ doesn't accept science......

Nigga, I drop the most scientific shit these boards have ever seen......

n/h @ you finding "zestiness" in the Circle 7 ......

 
bambu;6065067 said:
Lol @ doesn't accept science......

Nigga, I drop the most scientific shit these boards have ever seen......

Strictly because of personal beliefs (and not any factual based arguments) you can't even accept one of the biggest, most well known, well substantiated theories of the 19th-21st centuries; not only do you not accept it based on beliefs but ignorance of the theory in itself and most if not all subjects and observations surrounding it.

LOL @ you saying my theories can't hold up to scientific scrutiny when your creation theories (you have yet to thoroughly explain btw) can't hold weight against the very scientific theories you deny. But you wanna act like a scientist.. foh
 
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Nigga please.....

But yet, in every thread I'm the only nigga dropping science.....

I have detailed all of my threads ......

You stay getting schooled.....
 
bambu;6065509 said:
Nigga please.....

But yet, in every thread I'm the only nigga dropping science.....

I have detailed all of my threads ......

You stay getting schooled.....

What I'm saying is you oppose certain scientific theories like evolution but make no well-detailed or thorough arguments based on science against them.

On the contrary, I've schooled you countless times, one being on the topic of vestigial structures. Before that debate, you were confused as to what vestigial actually meant. You were confused about speciation. Not to mention I destroyed you in the S.L. debates and ganked your title.
 
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Ajackson17;6064354 said:
Can't you niggas just intellectually battle and leave the pettiness away.

I try but I'm always bombarded with feelings from negroes who can't control their emotions. The evidence is here.
 
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The threads exist.............

Anyone who read knows............

LOL @ you taking anything from the God...................

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