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im not reading any reviews im trying to go in as open minded as possible....*notices i said this for iron man 3* smh....i got faith in this one though
 
Got my tix already. Im glad this is a two hour thing. I'm starting to think that I'm only going to see movies that are that long, they actually have a story to tell
 
My only question about the Justice League movie is who's playing Batman? They gonna bring Bale back? Have Joseph Gordon-Levitt take over since Bruce left him the Batcave? or recast it completely?
 
Bale has said that he is not coming back for Justice League and Nolan think his batman universe should be stand alone. And nolan also says he will not be doing anything more comic book movies after MoS.

They may also be lying tho. A lot of stuff that was told to us about MoS was proven false too. I remember when the movie was first announced they said that it would not tie in with JL characters but they recently admitted to a waynetech satellite in the movie. So they may all just be tight lipped at the moment.

Id love to see Nolan oversee all the DC comics movies tho. So far MoS doesnt look like just a kick ass movie but also a GOOD movie like Dark Knight.
 
SUPERMAN RETURNS: 76% RT

MAN OF STEEL: 69% RT

So according to critics on RT, "Man of Steel" is worse than "Returns" I don't buy that. This is why I honestly don't use RT to decide if I want to see a movie. Their reviews are to inconsistent to me. They trash one thing and praise another that doesn't deserve it. As for the movie. Look Nolan only produced and wrote it and yes it's his baby but it's really Zack's film. Zack is like Michael Bay in the fact he makes great action and has a amazing style on film but his characters and storytelling are always lacking. This is why critics are mixed about his work. I liked "Dawn of the Dead Remake, 300 and Watchman" personally. "Suckerpunch" was weak but visually it was dope.

Zack can be a good director when he wants to. To read reviews of "Too Much Action". Are these critics kidding? You know how long I've been waiting to see Superman wreak shop. "Returns" had that lame baby momma drama storyline that nobody cared about. So I'm waiting till I see this before I judge. Critics sometimes overanaylze action movies. Now I'm an 80's baby, I grew on Reeves Superman. To me Superman I and II will never be topped so I'm not even going to put those expectations on the New Superman. I just want a good movie. But Donner still has the crown. Oh yea I'm hearing Hans Did pretty good but it's still not a John Williams Epic type score.

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lol @ the only critiques being there's too much action and its too serious and intense. I see critics have been dumb downed by all these other cornball comic book/comedy movies.
 
Man fuck a rt I've been hyped about this since the official trailer I'm ready for this movie superman finally throwing down let's get it
 
rapmastermind;5917564 said:
Look Nolan only produced and wrote it and yes it's his baby but it's really Zack's film.

Nolan did not write this movie. David S. Goyer did. Nolan is credited for helping come up with the story with truthfully could be as much as saying "Superman finds himself and battles kryptonians." He didn't even have an interest in Superman till WB begged him to "godfather" this project and Goyer threw some concepts at him that caught his eye.

This is not "his baby" he wasn't even on set 98% of the time. An executive producer is NOT a director. This is Zack Snyder's "baby". This is why I laugh so much when people were overstating Nolan's role on this project when he's just and always has been an executive producer on this project.

The sad part is anything good in it will still be wrongly credited to Nolan instead of Goyer and Snyder were the credit SHOULD go since movie news writers are as ignorant and misinformed as their readers now a days. This is why I barely bother with forums or genre websites anymore. People have no fucking clue what they're really talking about and try to act like they do. Their is no more journalistic integrity in genre journalism anymore. Not with movies, not with comic books, not with books, video games, sports analysis or music. It's just biased agenda filled writing with no real semblances of fact just twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda.
 
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Man I can't wait til tomorrow night! Got my Walmart advance screening ticket and then I'm seeing that joint again at the midnight IMAX show. I can't do nothing but shake my head at alot of these critiques. The shit they complaining about is what I'm looking forward to lol. Most of these critics only knowledge of Supes is the previous movies (never read a comic in they life or certainly haven't picked up one recently) and thus seem to be conditioned to only being able to accept that incarnation. I had a feeling that might happen. Notice that most of the reviews from the comic/sci-fi centered pubs who tend to be more familiar with the source material love the shit.
 
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Broddie;5918413 said:
rapmastermind;5917564 said:
Look Nolan only produced and wrote it and yes it's his baby but it's really Zack's film.

Nolan did not write this movie. David S. Goyer did. Nolan is credited for helping come up with the story with truthfully could be as much as saying "Superman finds himself and battles kryptonians." He didn't even have an interest in Superman till WB begged him to "godfather" this project and Goyer threw some concepts at him that caught his eye.

This is not "his baby" he wasn't even on set 98% of the time. An executive producer is NOT a director. This is Zack Snyder's "baby". This is why I laugh so much when people were overstating Nolan's role on this project when he's just and always has been an executive producer on this project.

The sad part is anything good in it will still be wrongly credited to Nolan instead of Goyer and Snyder were the credit SHOULD go since movie news writers are as ignorant and misinformed as their readers now a days. This is why I barely bother with forums or genre websites anymore. People have no fucking clue what they're really talking about and try to act like they do. Their is no more journalistic integrity in genre journalism anymore. Not with movies, not with comic books, not with books, video games, sports analysis or music. It's just biased agenda filled writing with no real semblances of fact just twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda.

Do you like Wesley Morris work as a film critic? He's on Grantland now.
 
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Broddie;5918413 said:
rapmastermind;5917564 said:
Look Nolan only produced and wrote it and yes it's his baby but it's really Zack's film.

Nolan did not write this movie. David S. Goyer did. Nolan is credited for helping come up with the story with truthfully could be as much as saying "Superman finds himself and battles kryptonians." He didn't even have an interest in Superman till WB begged him to "godfather" this project and Goyer threw some concepts at him that caught his eye.

This is not "his baby" he wasn't even on set 98% of the time. An executive producer is NOT a director. This is Zack Snyder's "baby". This is why I laugh so much when people were overstating Nolan's role on this project when he's just and always has been an executive producer on this project.

The sad part is anything good in it will still be wrongly credited to Nolan instead of Goyer and Snyder were the credit SHOULD go since movie news writers are as ignorant and misinformed as their readers now a days. This is why I barely bother with forums or genre websites anymore. People have no fucking clue what they're really talking about and try to act like they do. Their is no more journalistic integrity in genre journalism anymore. Not with movies, not with comic books, not with books, video games, sports analysis or music. It's just biased agenda filled writing with no real semblances of fact just twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda.

1st this is Nolan's baby. He was the executive producer. When a film wins best picture at the Oscars it goes to the Executive Producer not the director. #2. Nolan HANDPICKED Snyder and Goyer. Snyder was brought on to the project from Nolan. All the ads and promotions are "From the Writer, Producer and Director of The Dark Knight Trilogy". This is exactly what I knew was going to happen. If the movie got lukewarm response. Nolan input would downplayed. If it got a 95% on RT, everyone would be screaming "Nolan The God". I do agree with you that the internet has messed things up for reception. So nobody is "Overstating" Nolan's imput. You making it like Nolan didn't do anything. Nobody is just going to put their name and reputation on a movie and have little or no imput on how that movie comes out. So yes Zack may be the director so it's his visual vision but Nolan was THE BOSS of the operation. Nothing went on that screen without Nolan's approval.

 
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rapmastermind;5918747 said:
Broddie;5918413 said:
rapmastermind;5917564 said:
Look Nolan only produced and wrote it and yes it's his baby but it's really Zack's film.

Nolan did not write this movie. David S. Goyer did. Nolan is credited for helping come up with the story with truthfully could be as much as saying "Superman finds himself and battles kryptonians." He didn't even have an interest in Superman till WB begged him to "godfather" this project and Goyer threw some concepts at him that caught his eye.

This is not "his baby" he wasn't even on set 98% of the time. An executive producer is NOT a director. This is Zack Snyder's "baby". This is why I laugh so much when people were overstating Nolan's role on this project when he's just and always has been an executive producer on this project.

The sad part is anything good in it will still be wrongly credited to Nolan instead of Goyer and Snyder were the credit SHOULD go since movie news writers are as ignorant and misinformed as their readers now a days. This is why I barely bother with forums or genre websites anymore. People have no fucking clue what they're really talking about and try to act like they do. Their is no more journalistic integrity in genre journalism anymore. Not with movies, not with comic books, not with books, video games, sports analysis or music. It's just biased agenda filled writing with no real semblances of fact just twisting of facts to fit the writer's agenda.

1st this is Nolan's baby.

Not it isn't.

He was the executive producer.

Yeah and?

When a film wins best picture at the Oscars it goes to the Executive Producer not the director.

Wrong; it's collected by producers and the director.

#2. Nolan HANDPICKED Snyder and Goyer.

That's what WB hired him for.

Snyder was brought on to the project from Nolan.

The minute he did it became his project. Christopher Nolan never even set foot on set or had any idea what was always going on with the project while it was in production. Christopher Nolan himself has gone on the record about this numerous times in the past year.

All the ads and promotions are "From the Writer, Producer and Director of The Dark Knight Trilogy".

It's called marketing. A way to give it a good omen in the mainstream by associating it with a favored superhero movie series. If you want to get technical outside of Nolan and his wife the producers on this feature not only produced TDK trilogy but Superman Returns as well. It's "from the producers of The Dark Knight Trilogy" the "writer" part is nowhere in the ads and something you've just made up.

EDIT: Saw the theatrical trailer and it actually says "Producer Christopher Nolan Director of The Dark Knight Trilogy"

This is exactly what I knew was going to happen. If the movie got lukewarm response. Nolan input would downplayed.

How would it be downplayed if it was always minimal in the first place during the production?

If it got a 95% on RT, everyone would be screaming "Nolan The God".

No people with actual sense would be crediting Snyder since he's the one who was the captain of the ship not Christopher Nolan. They will also credit David Goyer since he was the writer who wrote the script and took care of any necessary rewrites on the set.

You making it like Nolan didn't do anything.

Yet I was the one who stated that he is getting a story by credit and is an executive producer which is his only involvement on the project?

Nobody is just going to put their name and reputation on a movie and have little or no imput on how that movie comes out. So yes Zack may be the director so it's his visual vision but Nolan was THE BOSS of the operation. Nothing went on that screen without Nolan's approval.

*sighs* the "boss" of the operation was the WB exec in charge of overseeing this project. Zack Snyder was the general on set. Charles Roven of Legendary Pictures was the guy on set representing the production company Legendary Pictures. Nolan didn't even know what most of the movie even looked like during production. He's got his own projects to worry about and in the case of the production of this movie most of that was post-production on The Dark Knight Rises.

“It’s very much Zack’s film and I think people are going to love what he’s done…I think it’s really remarkable to take on that character. Superman is a completely different character than Batman. So you can’t in anyway use the same template. But David Goyer had this, I thought, brilliant way to make Superman relatable and relevant for his audience. Zack has built on that and I think it’s incredible what he’s putting together. He’s got a lot of finishing to do on that. Superman is the biggest comic book character of them all and he needs the biggest possible movie version which is what Zack’s doing. It’s really something.” - Christopher Nolan

"I actually feel guilty talking about it because I'm sitting here having nothing to do to it. I try to be as supportive as I can, and I'm just amazed by what he is doing. It's not something I would know how to do." - Christopher Nolan

"Chris Nolan wasn't there during the production itself, although I'm not sure how much work was done behind the scenes I'm sure Zack had a phone call or two with him, but this is definitely Zack's baby. He was the man in charge, and we created the character together, as opposed to having too many outside influences." - Henry Cavill

"Well, I think that Goyer and Chris shaped the idea of the story. It was definitely David’s original idea of the story. He came to Chris with it. So, it’s certainly a shared vision from that standpoint. But once again, while that vision stayed constant to a certain degree, it was then mutually informed by Zack" - Charles Roven


infamous114;5918627 said:
Do you like Wesley Morris work as a film critic? He's on Grantland now.

Never heard of him.
 
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so niggas complaining about it being too serious?

This is exactly what I want. I'm tired of the happy happy joy movies when comics have serious tones and themes to them.

comics tackle numerous serious topics like anxiety, depression alcoholism, redemption, revenge etc and I believe that should be depicted onscreen.
 

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