Does Method Man have any "Classic" albums?

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power_wisdom;c-9953691 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

That's the same era, in fact the same year Illmatic and Ready to die came out. Redman destroyed his album on the month of the man with Dare is a Darkside. Tical wasn't even better than Keith Murray first album The most beautiful thing. But he did kick off the Wu solo acts.

How is Blackout one and 2 included? You might as well include the album with Rea and Ghost then too. And Blackout was a classic. But Meth as a solo artist have 0 classic albums. But 4:21 was his best.

Why are you quoting me when I clearly said "Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work." there were certainly more cohesive pieces of work at the time. Bottom line though is Red, Murray, and even Nas wasn't as big as Meth. Meth was so popular he was the only feature on RTD.
 
THE_R_;c-9955210 said:
BRING THE PAIN, RELEADE YO DELF, SANDMAN & PLO STYLE ARE CLASSICS TOO.

TICAL HAS CLASSIC MATERIAL, IT'S JUST NOT A CLASSIC ALBUM.

Stimulation

Tical

Mef vs Chef

OG All I Need

What The Bloodclot

Sub Crazy

Biscuits

Yo the whole album bangs. That straight raw shit. Classic. Ya niggas buggin.

And Tical 2000 had fire. Just too many tracks.
 
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KneeGro_DuperMan;c-9955443 said:
THE_R_;c-9955210 said:
BRING THE PAIN, RELEADE YO DELF, SANDMAN & PLO STYLE ARE CLASSICS TOO.

TICAL HAS CLASSIC MATERIAL, IT'S JUST NOT A CLASSIC ALBUM.

Stimulation

Tical

Mef vs Chef

OG All I Need

What The Bloodclot

Sub Crazy

Biscuits

Yo the whole album bangs. That straight raw shit. Classic. Ya niggas buggin.

And Tical 2000 had fire. Just too many tracks.

One of my favorite songs off this album. The story behind this song is pretty dope. I think biscuits is the only song that I skip.

 
Kwan Dai;c-9955233 said:
power_wisdom;c-9953691 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

That's the same era, in fact the same year Illmatic and Ready to die came out. Redman destroyed his album on the month of the man with Dare is a Darkside. Tical wasn't even better than Keith Murray first album The most beautiful thing. But he did kick off the Wu solo acts.

How is Blackout one and 2 included? You might as well include the album with Rea and Ghost then too. And Blackout was a classic. But Meth as a solo artist have 0 classic albums. But 4:21 was his best.

Why are you quoting me when I clearly said "Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work." there were certainly more cohesive pieces of work at the time. Bottom line though is Red, Murray, and even Nas wasn't as big as Meth. Meth was so popular he was the only feature on RTD.

Impact and anticipation without the music is not a classic. If you can take pick 10 of the best albums from 94,would Tical be on the list? Tical was good album. Period. An album can't be classic because of the hype.
 
power_wisdom;c-9955515 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9955233 said:
power_wisdom;c-9953691 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

That's the same era, in fact the same year Illmatic and Ready to die came out. Redman destroyed his album on the month of the man with Dare is a Darkside. Tical wasn't even better than Keith Murray first album The most beautiful thing. But he did kick off the Wu solo acts.

How is Blackout one and 2 included? You might as well include the album with Rea and Ghost then too. And Blackout was a classic. But Meth as a solo artist have 0 classic albums. But 4:21 was his best.

Why are you quoting me when I clearly said "Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work." there were certainly more cohesive pieces of work at the time. Bottom line though is Red, Murray, and even Nas wasn't as big as Meth. Meth was so popular he was the only feature on RTD.

Impact and anticipation without the music is not a classic. If you can take pick 10 of the best albums from 94,would Tical be on the list? Tical was good album. Period. An album can't be classic because of the hype.

But people were like, really really looking forward to the album tho.
 
power_wisdom;c-9955515 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9955233 said:
power_wisdom;c-9953691 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

That's the same era, in fact the same year Illmatic and Ready to die came out. Redman destroyed his album on the month of the man with Dare is a Darkside. Tical wasn't even better than Keith Murray first album The most beautiful thing. But he did kick off the Wu solo acts.

How is Blackout one and 2 included? You might as well include the album with Rea and Ghost then too. And Blackout was a classic. But Meth as a solo artist have 0 classic albums. But 4:21 was his best.

Why are you quoting me when I clearly said "Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work." there were certainly more cohesive pieces of work at the time. Bottom line though is Red, Murray, and even Nas wasn't as big as Meth. Meth was so popular he was the only feature on RTD.

Impact and anticipation without the music is not a classic. If you can take pick 10 of the best albums from 94,would Tical be on the list? Tical was good album. Period. An album can't be classic because of the hype.

Yes I would. More importantly I never said, the album didn't have good or even great music. Which, I thought it did. I just didn't think it was as cohesive as other pieces of work from that time. You need to read my post again, where did I say the album is classic because, of hype? I clearly stated other factors in addition to the music. Which, is an obvious criterion for a which, an album can be deemed classic. A more modern example would be GRODT. That album isn't the most lyrical or musically put together piece of work either. But 50's impact shifted how other artists made music in addition to how big of an artists he became. If you factor in all things that album is considered classic by many.
 
kzzl;c-9954250 said:
Meth doesnt have an ear for beats, i figure. His solos fall flat because of that. Nothing else bad to say about his work.

This has always been my main issue w/ his albums. Meth's beat selection is trash. You can't say enough about having a good ear for beats. A rapper can be super dope lyrically w/ a body of work that is garbage because of the subpar beats.
 
Albums in 94

1. Illmatic

2. Hard To Earn

3. The Sun Rises In The East

4. Southernplayalisticadillacmusik

5. Ready To Die

6. Resurrection

7. Blowout Comb

8. The Diary

9. Word Life

10. Super Tight

11. Regulate...G Funk Era

12. Dare Iz A Darkside

13. Ill Communication

14. Thug Life

15. The Main Ingredient

16. On The Outside Looking In

17. We Come Strapped

18. Everything Is Everything

19. Amerikkkas Nightmare

20. Thug Life

Doggystyle, Midnight Marauders and 36 Chambers all came out in November 93 and got played all the way into

Also, Doo Wop had a tape called Spring One that got circulated around town.

I'm not saying that all of these albums were better than Tical, but there was a lot of competition in 1994. Tical might have been a top 10 album in 94, but I wouldn't call it a top 3 album. I wouldn't even call it a top 5 album.

Having said that, every album on my list can't be a "classic".

Or can they? Is it possible that 20 albums came out in 94 and they were all classics?
 
THE_R_;c-9956292 said:
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So the question remains; how many of those albums are "classics"?
 
5 Grand;c-9956264 said:
Albums in 94

1. Illmatic

2. Hard To Earn

3. The Sun Rises In The East

4. Southernplayalisticadillacmusik

5. Ready To Die

6. Resurrection


7. Blowout Comb

8. The Diary

9. Word Life

10. Super Tight

11. Regulate...G Funk Era

12. Dare Iz A Darkside

13. Ill Communication

14. Thug Life

15. The Main Ingredient

16. On The Outside Looking In

17. We Come Strapped

18. Everything Is Everything

19. Amerikkkas Nightmare

20. Thug Life



Doggystyle, Midnight Marauders and 36 Chambers
all came out in November 93 and got played all the way into

Also, Doo Wop had a tape called Spring One that got circulated around town.

I'm not saying that all of these albums were better than Tical, but there was a lot of competition in 1994. Tical might have been a top 10 album in 94, but I wouldn't call it a top 3 album. I wouldn't even call it a top 5 album.

Having said that, every album on my list can't be a "classic".

Or can they? Is it possible that 20 albums came out in 94 and they were all classics?

All of those albums are easily better than Tical then and today.

 
Stew;c-9956305 said:
5 Grand;c-9956264 said:
Albums in 94

1. Illmatic

2. Hard To Earn

3. The Sun Rises In The East

4. Southernplayalisticadillacmusik

5. Ready To Die

6. Resurrection


7. Blowout Comb

8. The Diary

9. Word Life

10. Super Tight

11. Regulate...G Funk Era

12. Dare Iz A Darkside

13. Ill Communication

14. Thug Life

15. The Main Ingredient

16. On The Outside Looking In

17. We Come Strapped

18. Everything Is Everything

19. Amerikkkas Nightmare

20. Thug Life



Doggystyle, Midnight Marauders and 36 Chambers
all came out in November 93 and got played all the way into

Also, Doo Wop had a tape called Spring One that got circulated around town.

I'm not saying that all of these albums were better than Tical, but there was a lot of competition in 1994. Tical might have been a top 10 album in 94, but I wouldn't call it a top 3 album. I wouldn't even call it a top 5 album.

Having said that, every album on my list can't be a "classic".

Or can they? Is it possible that 20 albums came out in 94 and they were all classics?

All of those albums are easily better than Tical then and today.

You missed number all of them
 
KneeGro_DuperMan;c-9955443 said:
THE_R_;c-9955210 said:
BRING THE PAIN, RELEADE YO DELF, SANDMAN & PLO STYLE ARE CLASSICS TOO.

TICAL HAS CLASSIC MATERIAL, IT'S JUST NOT A CLASSIC ALBUM.

Stimulation

Tical

Mef vs Chef

OG All I Need

What The Bloodclot

Sub Crazy

Biscuits

Yo the whole album bangs. That straight raw shit. Classic. Ya niggas buggin.

And Tical 2000 had fire. Just too many tracks.

Woo I forgot Meth vs Chef was on That album yeah I think Tical is very close to classic status
 
Kwan Dai;c-9955714 said:
power_wisdom;c-9955515 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9955233 said:
power_wisdom;c-9953691 said:
Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

That's the same era, in fact the same year Illmatic and Ready to die came out. Redman destroyed his album on the month of the man with Dare is a Darkside. Tical wasn't even better than Keith Murray first album The most beautiful thing. But he did kick off the Wu solo acts.

How is Blackout one and 2 included? You might as well include the album with Rea and Ghost then too. And Blackout was a classic. But Meth as a solo artist have 0 classic albums. But 4:21 was his best.

Why are you quoting me when I clearly said "Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work." there were certainly more cohesive pieces of work at the time. Bottom line though is Red, Murray, and even Nas wasn't as big as Meth. Meth was so popular he was the only feature on RTD.

Impact and anticipation without the music is not a classic. If you can take pick 10 of the best albums from 94,would Tical be on the list? Tical was good album. Period. An album can't be classic because of the hype.

Yes I would. More importantly I never said, the album didn't have good or even great music. Which, I thought it did. I just didn't think it was as cohesive as other pieces of work from that time. You need to read my post again, where did I say the album is classic because, of hype? I clearly stated other factors in addition to the music. Which, is an obvious criterion for a which, an album can be deemed classic. A more modern example would be GRODT. That album isn't the most lyrical or musically put together piece of work either. But 50's impact shifted how other artists made music in addition to how big of an artists he became. If you factor in all things that album is considered classic by many.

Tical didn't shift any other artist mind set. No one tried to make an album like Tacal. It didn't break any sell records. No one was copying Meth style after Tical. So how is it a classic? GRODT was classic not just because hype, sells or it started a movements. It was classic because the music was outstanding. It had bangers after bangers. Tical was good. But it was a whole shit load of albums that was better in that year. It's not even top 10 of that year. And it didn't change the culture either.
 
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Kwan Dai;c-9953318 said:
Tical is Classic. Not because it's the most musically together piece of work. But because, Meth was huge and Tical was one of the most anticipated Albums of that Era. It then helped to usher in and cement Wu as a musical force as well as other artists to come in the game without a gimmick. Just crazy beats and grimy top notch MCing.

Canibus was a huge artist with a most anticipated album with one of the best diss songs in hip-hop history. By your logic Can I Bus was a classic too.
 
WHY CAN'T AN ALBUM JUST BE GOOD?

I FEEL LIKE...IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS...THEY'RE ABOUT 30 CLASSIC RAP ALBUMS AND HUNDREDS OF CLASSIC RAP SONGS.
 

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